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Official FootballSoccerFútbol Thread 2008/2009
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it's all about availability. Had Saha worked out/not been constantly injured you would have played a different system.
It's not a coincidence you want to buy Berbatov.
And yes, it did work out. Because you have a midfielder that scores your goals and is making it work.
Our donkey scored 24 goals, Rooney and Tevez together scored 26.
It's not a coincidence you want to buy Berbatov.
And yes, it did work out. Because you have a midfielder that scores your goals and is making it work.
Our donkey scored 24 goals, Rooney and Tevez together scored 26.
I'm my warped imagination, yes. (Remember, he played less games than the Perse last season due to injury, which is a serious accomplishment.)Tanned Greyface said:
Also the transfer fee for Benjani balloons significantly if he plays a certain number of matches so I imagine we will be seeing less of him this year what with Frank panhandling on the streets of Calcutta. (It doesn't hurt that he wasn't particularly prolific with City last season... not that anyone on the team was during the second half of the schedule.)
how many of those assists were finished by Ronaldo?
btw, one half of our 2 strikers was out for 2/3 of last season and this half has shown that he can give an assist in about every 2.5 games. That would be 14 assists from one player alone in 35 games :O
Imagine that. We have a striker that can give assists. How amazing.
btw, one half of our 2 strikers was out for 2/3 of last season and this half has shown that he can give an assist in about every 2.5 games. That would be 14 assists from one player alone in 35 games :O
Imagine that. We have a striker that can give assists. How amazing.
No, you have been deceived by Blatter and Fifa, who dont even know their own rules to begin with.Ghost said:
The Olympics are not in the official FIFA Int. Calendar, therefore clubs are not obligated to hand their players to the national teams.
Also, there were more teams involved in the appeal.
Rooney and Tevez were never injured last season, not once. (thats sarcastic btw americans)
Our forwards numbers are better than yours, fact.
(26+20) >>> (31+6)
Therefore are better as we have better number.
Doesn't that sound ludicrous? Yes, because it's an idiotic question which turns into a slanging match which nothing is decided.
Forwards do different jobs, we have a system that is different, ours aren't there just to score, they're to provide goals for the team just as much. Ferguson said next season that Rooney was played out of position and was sacrificing his talent for the team and as such will be used as a no.10, we'll see how many more goals he gets next season and Tevez has looked as good as I've seen him in pre-season.
If your forwards really are the best in the league (which I have proved that they are not) then the rest of your team must be pretty awful to only finish 3rd and reach the quarter finals in the FA Cup and Champions League.
Also you bring out Ronaldo as though it was a bad thing we have the best player in the world and that somehow what he does doesn't count, you're more reliant on Adebayor than we are on Ronaldo, Rooney or Tevez.
Our forwards numbers are better than yours, fact.
(26+20) >>> (31+6)
Therefore are better as we have better number.
Doesn't that sound ludicrous? Yes, because it's an idiotic question which turns into a slanging match which nothing is decided.
Forwards do different jobs, we have a system that is different, ours aren't there just to score, they're to provide goals for the team just as much. Ferguson said next season that Rooney was played out of position and was sacrificing his talent for the team and as such will be used as a no.10, we'll see how many more goals he gets next season and Tevez has looked as good as I've seen him in pre-season.
If your forwards really are the best in the league (which I have proved that they are not) then the rest of your team must be pretty awful to only finish 3rd and reach the quarter finals in the FA Cup and Champions League.
Also you bring out Ronaldo as though it was a bad thing we have the best player in the world and that somehow what he does doesn't count, you're more reliant on Adebayor than we are on Ronaldo, Rooney or Tevez.
Frenck said:
I too think it was the right decision. It was fucking annoying how the Argentine Federation were claiming that Messi would make whatever they wanted and Barça had no saying in the matter. I find it extremely abusive, FIFA and the AFA just want to make money out of his appearance in the Olympics while the club still pays his monthly salary and has to risk its best player who is,coincidently, injury prone.
Still, if he wants to be at the Olympics we should let him, but it has to be clear that he's there because we are letting him, not because we're obligated by some corrupt oldfart named Blatter.
It's getting better and better.
FIFA is fucked now. All Bundesliga clubs who are involved (Hertha BSC, Werder Bremen, Hamburg, Schalke, Hoffenheim etc) have worked together on a solution. They want FIFA and the FA's of the respective player's country to pay their wages, they want them to get insurances for all players and they want to get additional money for letting their players participate.
Now the great thing about this is that Blatter screwed up royally by appealing to the Olympic spirit. Now he has to agree to these conditions or he is the one who is at fault if these players can't take part in the Olympics.
Of course he won't accept the conditions and his Olympic spirit crap will disappear into hot air.
FIFA is fucked now. All Bundesliga clubs who are involved (Hertha BSC, Werder Bremen, Hamburg, Schalke, Hoffenheim etc) have worked together on a solution. They want FIFA and the FA's of the respective player's country to pay their wages, they want them to get insurances for all players and they want to get additional money for letting their players participate.
Now the great thing about this is that Blatter screwed up royally by appealing to the Olympic spirit. Now he has to agree to these conditions or he is the one who is at fault if these players can't take part in the Olympics.
Of course he won't accept the conditions and his Olympic spirit crap will disappear into hot air.
Cedeo said:
First of all, you can't just go and say it doesn't matter if one player played 15 games and another played 30.
Secondly, you know that Van Persie's assist statistic the season before last was 7 in 18 starts, which is more than one in 3 - better than both of your assist queens.
It was a simple question I asked, and an innocent one too. You haven't proved a thing, all you're doing is going all defensive for no bloody reason. I appreciate your desire to argue about everything, but for once it would be nice if we could just discuss things in a more open fashion.
I'M RIGHT
NO, I'M RIGHT
FUCK THAT, I'M RIGHT
isn't going to get us anywhere with discussing things that are as subjective as this.
hadareud said:
Where did I say this?
hadareud said:
Shame Van Persie's deteriorated, maybe he'll get one assist this season?
hadareud said:
Whats the measure of being 'better' if it is stats then we seem to beat you on that
I'd like you to comment on this , you seem to ignore it ( I can't imagine why )
20 + 26 >>> 31+6
46 >>> 37
Is this proof for your simple question?
You say V.Persie is injured, so was Rooney he broke a metatarsal and did his hip in and had numerous groin strains and Tevez didn't have an injury-free season either.
hadareud said:
Look who was the first to suggest this,
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12279096&postcount=590
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12279017&postcount=587
Cornballer
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The US Women lost 2-0 to Norway this morning at the Olympics. Norway scored in the 2nd and 4th minutes. Way to start the tournament off on the right foot, ladies.
Cornballer
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Is anyone else going to watch the US team play tomorrow? I'm trying to figure out if I want to get up in the middle of the night to watch or if I should TiVo it and wait until I wake up.
Had's original post was biased, undoubtedly. He put RVP and Adebayor up top which most people here would disagree with. Even some Arsenal fans I would think.
But, instead of responding maturely and saying "I disagree. Rooney and Tevez have done great together and not only did they score enough goals themselves, they assisted quite a bit too. It also happened to be enough to win the CL and EPL." You take the other route and criticize his post in general and respond with the sarcasm and bitterness that you always use and what everyone here hates you for.
This is a forum. It's here to discuss things, not to sit and look at a blank screen all day. When someone posts something don't be an immature little prick and come back with your shit attitude and shoot everyone down immediately. If you have something intelligent to say, by all means, say it. And tbh, sometimes you make good points. But, it's in your delivery that puts people off.
the thread was better when you weren't active in it last season and it was better last week when you stopped posting. Change your fucking attitude or leave. If you decide not to do either your posts will go unread anyway and you'll be wasting your time because in no time you're going to be on everyone's ignore list.
I don't know how old you are but you have alot ot learn and alot of growing up to do.
But, instead of responding maturely and saying "I disagree. Rooney and Tevez have done great together and not only did they score enough goals themselves, they assisted quite a bit too. It also happened to be enough to win the CL and EPL." You take the other route and criticize his post in general and respond with the sarcasm and bitterness that you always use and what everyone here hates you for.
This is a forum. It's here to discuss things, not to sit and look at a blank screen all day. When someone posts something don't be an immature little prick and come back with your shit attitude and shoot everyone down immediately. If you have something intelligent to say, by all means, say it. And tbh, sometimes you make good points. But, it's in your delivery that puts people off.
the thread was better when you weren't active in it last season and it was better last week when you stopped posting. Change your fucking attitude or leave. If you decide not to do either your posts will go unread anyway and you'll be wasting your time because in no time you're going to be on everyone's ignore list.
I don't know how old you are but you have alot ot learn and alot of growing up to do.
GHG
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Dear god... I stopped reading the gaming side of the forum because of shit like this.
Cedeo, let me make it clear. Its not what you say, its how you say it. Nobody is saying you have to agree with everyone else, but the way you put across your arguments you come off as some kind of obnoxious cunt.
Cedeo, let me make it clear. Its not what you say, its how you say it. Nobody is saying you have to agree with everyone else, but the way you put across your arguments you come off as some kind of obnoxious cunt.
velvet_nitemare
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Ghost said:
Gotta fund that last payday before heading over to MLS.
Cornballer
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I was going to make a system warz joke this morning, but it was a little too on the nose.GHG said:
Now you're talkin'. :lolvelvet_nitemare said:
h0pper said:
I think it's purely because he's costing us way too much money. He was average in the games he did play last season. He wouldn't get in our first team this year, paying a reserve £85k a week would have been a fucking disgrace (not that it wasn't already).
velvet_nitemare
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I wish we could have a midfield that contributed as much as Freddie and Pires. Those guys scored more than some prem strikers...double digits most seasons.
Plus Freddie's trademark late runs were orgasmic(Post masturbating smiley here)
Plus Freddie's trademark late runs were orgasmic(Post masturbating smiley here)
Cornballer
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Thanks, Falch. Are you going to do a Eredivisie preview for this season? It'd be cool to get one for every league if people are up for it. Get blaburn/falch to do the Bundesliga, etc...Falch said:
Niiiiiiiice.Wes said:
velvet_nitemare
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Well, seems my bitching in the last thread was for nothing. Apparently, Konami will be releasing the next Pro Evo in NA this fall, so we don't get shafted unnecessarily.
Please, don't buy it.
Please, don't buy it.
Cornballer
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Are you guys going to watch the Arsenal-Hudderfield friendly today?
GHG said:
:lol from Arsenal superstar to West Ham reject!
PES definitely doesn't look impressive this year. FIFA, on the other hand, looks awesome. There's new gameplay vids up on www.fifasoccerblog.com too. Go check em out. Gameplay looks very good imho.
h0pper said:
It was biased, I don't know what he was trying to get out of it, he clearly wasn't interested in what I thought. When I posted statistical evidence to back up my claim it was largely ignored and was responded too generally in a negative way. I, perhaps wrongly, feel insulted, maybe thats the wrong word, perhaps aggravated, when he suggests that our forwards are only successful because of Ronaldo as it is far from the truth. This coupled with ignoring of basic facts and narrow mindedness proves correct my assumption that this is down to team-bias and any results that you get from this question will largely be unreliable.
h0pper said:
Maybe I was too strong, but when arguing over the internet and people are ignoring your point the only way I feel to get my point across is via strong verbal stimulus, it is nothing personal per se, however it works. My sarcasm and bitterness is perhaps due to being a Manchester United supporter, I am here, alone. It really is me versus the rest and due to our success we have become and easy target for rival supporters, I wouldn't be a true supporter if I did not stick up for my team and let stuff slide, or just turn a blind eye. As I am here largely unbacked-up perhaps due to fear or not wanting to get ganged up on, I have to use whatever verbal tools I can, sarcasm not only gets my point across but often shows the stupidity of some comments by others.
It is all very well to talk how you suggest, but then, hadareud hardly plays by the same rulebook, and if I did then I too would be an easy target. I also can't believe that you are suggesting that we all talk like this. We don't all use the same diction, we aren't the same person, why should we be expected to talk the same, it would just play into the hand of those who are on the bandwagon against me.
h0pper said:
I will shoot it down when it is clearly designed to cause upset, he knew putting Berbatov & Bent ahead of Rooney & Tevez would cause tension, and you cannot for one second suggest that this was innocent, this is backed up by him saying "experiment over" as though it was a game for me to respond and get embroiled in this inconsequential tripe which portrays me as the bad guy, you all got hooked into it and are now firmly on the bandwagon.
h0pper said:
Cornballer should of titled this thread,
'Official Arsenal FootballSoccerFútbol Thread 2008/2009'
No-one dare question anything in any manner which goes against the thread demi-gods without being labeled the modern day equivalent to a 'witch', then the witch hunt begins trying to drive me out of the community, I have no plans to leave, change my 'fucking attitude' (the irony)? I'd consider it if everyone stopped have a personal vendetta against me or try and cause an event like hadareud did today.
Cornballer
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Is Daigoro back?
Heck of a game last night - I was worried that it would've been crappy due to the payment scheme, but the teams delivered. I thought Houston was better overall, but the Revs got it done when it mattered. Sharlie Joseph was the best player in the tournament.
Heck of a game last night - I was worried that it would've been crappy due to the payment scheme, but the teams delivered. I thought Houston was better overall, but the Revs got it done when it mattered. Sharlie Joseph was the best player in the tournament.
gigapower said:
i dont think anyone really wants to see that again. i wouldnt mind being able to finally get some revenge on Houston, but i wouldnt be unhappy if the Revs made it there and had to play someone else.
at least we got that fucking monkey off our backs last night!
Karakand said:
we won the US Open Cup last year. this is our second trophy.
more please.
Cornballer said:Is Daigoro back?
Heck of a game last night - I was worried that it would've been crappy due to the payment scheme, but the teams delivered. I thought Houston was better overall, but the Revs got it done when it mattered. Sharlie Joseph was the best player in the tournament.
it was definitely exciting. :lol
we had to come from behind every step of the way to win it. pretty stressfull being there.
re: Shalrie. he's probably the best all arounder in MLS. fucking love that guy.
1. you aren't the only United supporter here. MrPing, Psycho_snake, and a few others as well. Boo hoo, you won EPL and CL this year and people are jealous. You must have it so rough.
2. everyone gets along fine here...except you.
Aside from you, Cedeo, there is not one person in this thread who I argue with so vehemently. kaizoku was tough to get along with at times, but when it came down to it he wasn't a bad guy. He loved his team, but he also knew when enough was enough. At one point he also put our differences aside and gave me some much needed help with some xml stuff.
you on the other hand, continue to badger and pick fights with everyone and try to make yourself seem like the victim, which couldn't be any further from the truth. You think you're some kind of tough guy around here. You said it yourself. When I asked a few days ago why you came back to the thread, you said something like "to set people straight" or some e-thug type comment.
hadareud hates United, you hate Arsenal. That was evident in his post. But, like I said, you refuse to engage in intelligent conversation and that's why no one likes you. We don't dislike you for being a United supporter. We dislike you for your personality.
now, I know you are going to need to get the last word in, but I won't respond because the quality of the thread has seriously gone down since you've arrived and I don't want to muck it up anymore.
2. everyone gets along fine here...except you.
Aside from you, Cedeo, there is not one person in this thread who I argue with so vehemently. kaizoku was tough to get along with at times, but when it came down to it he wasn't a bad guy. He loved his team, but he also knew when enough was enough. At one point he also put our differences aside and gave me some much needed help with some xml stuff.
you on the other hand, continue to badger and pick fights with everyone and try to make yourself seem like the victim, which couldn't be any further from the truth. You think you're some kind of tough guy around here. You said it yourself. When I asked a few days ago why you came back to the thread, you said something like "to set people straight" or some e-thug type comment.
hadareud hates United, you hate Arsenal. That was evident in his post. But, like I said, you refuse to engage in intelligent conversation and that's why no one likes you. We don't dislike you for being a United supporter. We dislike you for your personality.
now, I know you are going to need to get the last word in, but I won't respond because the quality of the thread has seriously gone down since you've arrived and I don't want to muck it up anymore.
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