I was looking at this Case + Power Supply combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024
Good buy?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024
Good buy?
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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition
- Thread starter VictimOfGrief
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I'm .5 seconds away from chucking my computer into a lake. I've been trying to fix the damn thing for two months heres my problem and heres the steps I have taken:
Problem: Computer will power up but I get no picture. All the fans and hardrives are spinning and mouse lights up. The thing is it will sometimes boot with picture, when I say sometimes I mean if I sit there for 30 minutes turning it back on and off it will probably work once.
What I've done:
Updated Bios
Cleared CMOS
Tested another monitor
Tested another power cord and testing a VGA cord to monitor
Tried to boot with no ram
Inspected Motherboard for swollen or leaky things
Bought a new video card
Wiped all my drives and started over with windows 7
Between these steps it would go from working to not working, I would get it booted turn it off to go to sleep and not be able to get it to boot for a few days. At the point where I wiped my windows information I was done with the computer, I took it to a computer technician who said my 500w Antec Earthtec was not giving it enough power. He threw a 650w Antec into it and had it up and running for two days while restarting it multiple times. So i drove home stoked that my computer was fixed just to plug it in the moment I got home to get no picture. I think I have some anger issues because I had to talk myself down multiple from wanting to punch the machine. I don't know what to do next, help.
Problem: Computer will power up but I get no picture. All the fans and hardrives are spinning and mouse lights up. The thing is it will sometimes boot with picture, when I say sometimes I mean if I sit there for 30 minutes turning it back on and off it will probably work once.
What I've done:
Updated Bios
Cleared CMOS
Tested another monitor
Tested another power cord and testing a VGA cord to monitor
Tried to boot with no ram
Inspected Motherboard for swollen or leaky things
Bought a new video card
Wiped all my drives and started over with windows 7
Between these steps it would go from working to not working, I would get it booted turn it off to go to sleep and not be able to get it to boot for a few days. At the point where I wiped my windows information I was done with the computer, I took it to a computer technician who said my 500w Antec Earthtec was not giving it enough power. He threw a 650w Antec into it and had it up and running for two days while restarting it multiple times. So i drove home stoked that my computer was fixed just to plug it in the moment I got home to get no picture. I think I have some anger issues because I had to talk myself down multiple from wanting to punch the machine. I don't know what to do next, help.
letsbereasonable
Member
Do you have a speaker connected to the motherboard for beeps? That might help narrow it down.
I'm guessing your motherboard is either bad or is near its end.
I'm guessing your motherboard is either bad or is near its end.
TheHeretic
Banned
TheHeretic
Banned
Teetris said:
Yeah but newer GPU's use two connectors, which means 44 amps. Its more than fine.
Technosteve
Banned
TheHeretic said:
i find it bizzare that a single graphics card needs two pci-e connectors to power it. My 4890 makes my entire case hot and it has high pitch buzzing sounds =(
I'm very knowledgeable about tech/comps but i'm not too privy on Solid-State Drives. What are the advantage and disadvantages of those drives? I'm a pretty power-hungry user (graphic design/gamer/audio production). I'm looking to upgrade pretty soon to a computer that isnt just "fast" but also QUICK. What I mean by that is, I want bootup times to be very short and I want my applications to start up as fast as possible. Also, I want searching to be as fast as possible.
I remember seeing some tech a while back that found all files on a hard-drive pretty much instantly. I think it was SSD but i'm not too sure. Maybe it was I-RAM? I feel like a noob asking these questions but Hard-Drive speed has been the least of my worries and I'm starting to realize just how much I'm being affected by that.
If I can get some info on that..I'd be grateful for the help
OH YEA, Would also like a little info about backing up my complete OS (bit for bit) to install on any other hard-drive. I always knew it was possible but never looked too deep into it.
I remember seeing some tech a while back that found all files on a hard-drive pretty much instantly. I think it was SSD but i'm not too sure. Maybe it was I-RAM? I feel like a noob asking these questions but Hard-Drive speed has been the least of my worries and I'm starting to realize just how much I'm being affected by that.
If I can get some info on that..I'd be grateful for the help
OH YEA, Would also like a little info about backing up my complete OS (bit for bit) to install on any other hard-drive. I always knew it was possible but never looked too deep into it.
mr_nothin said:I'm very knowledgeable about tech/comps but i'm not too privy on Solid-State Drives. What are the advantage and disadvantages of those drives? I'm a pretty power-hungry user (graphic design/gamer/audio production). I'm looking to upgrade pretty soon to a computer that isnt just "fast" but also QUICK. What I mean by that is, I want bootup times to be very short and I want my applications to start up as fast as possible. Also, I want searching to be as fast as possible.
I remember seeing some tech a while back that found all files on a hard-drive pretty much instantly. I think it was SSD but i'm not too sure. Maybe it was I-RAM? I feel like a noob asking these questions but Hard-Drive speed has been the least of my worries and I'm starting to realize just how much I'm being affected by that.
If I can get some info on that..I'd be grateful for the help
SSDs aren't anything like an i-RAM even today, but they feel incredibly faster than any hard drive. Except an immaculately maintained Velociraptor, then they only feel a lot faster. The two main things to keep in mind are performance degradation and future value.
Write speeds take a dive once data is stored on an SSD because of the way they address storage space. This is countered by features like TRIM and garbage collection, but unfortunately neither of those features are fully implemented by any manufacturers. The tools they have released for enthusiasts to perform those features are not in a state that you would want to use them on any drive with data you'd give even fingernail clippings to save.
Worse, SSDs go obsolete every 3 months. This is not just due to new features popping up like TRIM but the basic specifications of these drives is improving faster than any PC component has in recent memory.
There's a few different SSD architectures out there, and if you are buying at this very moment the best ones are from Intel and Indilinx. Anandtech, Benchmark Reviews and PC Perspective are the most helpful sites to get a handle on the SSD market, but it's pretty much a nightmare like nothing I have seen in PC hardware since 2001. Or possibly ever.
mavs said:
Thanks for the info
Was looking into the whole scene and it seems like a very shaky market. It's like in mario where you're waiting on the right time to jump on a platform, and you finally go for it and you time it just right but as soon as you land...the platform flips over and you fall to your death.
Also, with the showcasing of Sata 3.0, I'm guessing that things will only get worse because there will be even faster SSD drives out within a few months.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
SSDs(the good ones) are extremely fast and will make your PC fly. Very expensive price per GB, though.mr_nothin said:
This is your basic primer to SSDs, although by now it's a tad old.
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531
The only two kinds of affordable SSDs woth getting on the market right now are SSDs that have either the Indilinx controller or the Intel controller.
The generation 2 Intel 34nm SSDs are the best at the moment.
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3607
The OCZ Vertex drives are really good too. OCZ also has excellent support on their forum.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=186
I'm using an OCZ Vertex and my bootup time is 20 seconds. Firefox opens in 1 second, and Photoshop in 3. It's amazing.
Use the SSD for your OS and page file. Use a platter drive for your data.
Thanks for the info.Rentahamster said:
Just looked up a couple of benchmarks and the OCZ seems like a good middle ground drive to go with (cost vs perfomance). Your boot/startup times sound good! I hate waiting for things to open. I like to jump around and back and forth.
Oh and I planned on using the SSD for my OS/page file....and then my other 3 HDD's for storage. Wouldn't want to eat up the life of the drive. Are there any stats on how long these things usually last for? Like, if you're doing a lot of data transfer to/from the drive.
mr_nothin said:
The best thing about OCZ is how aggresssively they introduce new features. That TRIM and garbage collection stuff I was talking about is nearly exclusive to OCZ beta firmware. Beta is a really generous description of the completeness of the release, but they're still way out in front of all other manufacturers for support. Two notable things about OCZ: 1) there's the original Vertex and Vertex Turbo, if you can afford it the Turbo is worth it; 2) the 120gig drives have the best performance (this is true of almost all manufacturers.)
The length of the warranty is a surprisingly good indicator of the expected life of any drive.
brain_stew
Member
Ysiadmihi said:Er, I have no idea. There is a mode called "Just" or something so maybe I should try that. Also I don't want to use older drivers just for that
Edit: "Just" mode on my TV just stretches the picture out a little bit.
What's your TV's native resolution and what resolution are you outputting from your PC? "Just" sounds like it may be the ticket but you may not be outputting a native resolutu=ion which is why it won't be working properly.
StreetDisciple
Member
Check your PM I have a question
Minsc
Gold Member
Otheradam said:
Cheaper, but slower.
For gaming there's not much difference. But then again there's not much difference between a Core i7 and a Phenom II X3 for gaming either.
Coldsnap said:
Quoting myself so people can read my problem. When I left my house yesterday it was not booting with picture, I come how and now it will boot but the first boot came to a blue screen. I have it up and running and I'm just restarting it every 15 minutes waiting for it to not show picture. Could this possibly mean theres something short circuiting my motherboard since it will run sometimes and sometimes not? Whats the best way to test my motherboard for stability now that the computer is running?
Teetris said:
I decided against that one, and went with another case/psu combo
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016
COOLER MASTER Elite 330
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115
Looks like some others have had good luck with these on GAF as well.
MSI GTX 275
Reviews say it runs quieter and cooler than reference boards from EVGA/BFG, and it's only $10 more than the BFG. Any issues with build quality on these cards, though? Or should I just pull the trigger.
Reviews say it runs quieter and cooler than reference boards from EVGA/BFG, and it's only $10 more than the BFG. Any issues with build quality on these cards, though? Or should I just pull the trigger.
I have a question,
my cousin just built a new power supply and video card for his computer. The Power supply is a Elite Power (Cooler Master) 460W, and the video card is a PNY Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT 256mb ddr3. The computer has an integrated graphics.
When we set it up the computer booted up just fine, but didnt have a vga to dvi converter. After we found one we got it plugged in and the boot up screen showed, showing that the video card was actually working. But after shutting down the computer, and then trying to turn it back on, the computer will not boot.
The fans looks like it's trying to start up, and the power light briefly blinks orange. After that it refuses to turn on. I took the graphics card out and after unplugging and replugging the computer it would turn on. But with the graphics card installed, the computer doesn't turn on.
Any ideas on what the problem is?
my cousin just built a new power supply and video card for his computer. The Power supply is a Elite Power (Cooler Master) 460W, and the video card is a PNY Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT 256mb ddr3. The computer has an integrated graphics.
When we set it up the computer booted up just fine, but didnt have a vga to dvi converter. After we found one we got it plugged in and the boot up screen showed, showing that the video card was actually working. But after shutting down the computer, and then trying to turn it back on, the computer will not boot.
The fans looks like it's trying to start up, and the power light briefly blinks orange. After that it refuses to turn on. I took the graphics card out and after unplugging and replugging the computer it would turn on. But with the graphics card installed, the computer doesn't turn on.
Any ideas on what the problem is?
Ryn said:
Are the integrated graphics disabled in the BIOS? Might want to try that.
Here's a recent thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=369891YagizY said:
(I know GAF search sucks for stuff like this, include "site:neogaf.com" in a google search to do it better)
KittyKittyBangBang
Member
Ryn said:
First thing you need to do is uninstall the integrated graphics card drivers, then install the new drivers BEFORE installing the card. after the old drivers are off, and the new drivers are on, power off, install the new card, and then go into BIOS, and disable the integrated graphics.
Hopefully that helps a bit
StreetDisciple
Member
AMD Phenom II X4 955 is reading 1.60 GHz in the system menu. can anyone tell me what is going on here? Should be reading 3.2
fatigues_gasolini
Member
Doytch said:
They do.
Check the bios and see what the multiplier is set at.
StreetDisciple
Member
okay found out what it is..apparently this Gigabyte motherboard had a problem with the CPU reading it at half its clock speed. Just needed to flash it with the latest update. Works fine now.
I ordered a new cooler for my CPU seeing as I can't get the damn thing below 80 degrees. I think my fan is borked or something. Either way, I'm not putting too much stress on it at the moment :lol
I keep seeing benchmarks online for Far Cry 2 and other games with my set up getting double the framerate at my resolution. But, I noticed their i7 920s were OC'd to at least 3.5 ghz. My CPU is at stock 2.6 ghz right now. When I get a cooler and OC it, am I going to see the framerate bump that high? Because I've heard OCing the CPU doesn't garner much of a framerate boost.
I keep seeing benchmarks online for Far Cry 2 and other games with my set up getting double the framerate at my resolution. But, I noticed their i7 920s were OC'd to at least 3.5 ghz. My CPU is at stock 2.6 ghz right now. When I get a cooler and OC it, am I going to see the framerate bump that high? Because I've heard OCing the CPU doesn't garner much of a framerate boost.
This happened to me awhile back. Essentially, a friend let me borrow one of his older cards he didn't use anymore, and it worked fine for awhile, but soon it wouldn't boot with the card installed. Unfortunately, I never did figure out what was wrong with it, but my friend and I suspected the card was gone. Try and find a different card to test with, or even try putting the card you have in a different computer. That may narrow down your possible problems.Ryn said:
Anyone have any good keyboard/mouse recommendations? I recently got a new computer but realized I've used the same keyboard and mouse for years which are very worn out and old now. Maybe something that is comfortable to use since so much computer use has me with wrist problems. Wireless or wired doesn't really matter, I don't have a particular preference but I've only ever used wired.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109148 I've been told this style of keyboard is good but I've never used one myself, anyone have experience with it? Seems like it would be a weird typing adjustment.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109148 I've been told this style of keyboard is good but I've never used one myself, anyone have experience with it? Seems like it would be a weird typing adjustment.
As one who is on the computer a lot I can't stand those keyboards at all. If you can they are supposedly better for you.Koshiba said:
I currently use a Saitek Eclipse (Because I got it for $20) but I like how the key presses work, and of course I can hold 3 or 4 keys without it failing on me.
Mouse wise I suggest a MX Revolution if you can spend it (I don't know what I was thinking when I bought it, but it feels fantastic) Alternatives are MX518, G5, G7, etc.
FC2 weighs a bit more on the CPU iirc, but a i7 should be doing fine already.JdFoX187 said:
Did you check their settings and resolution vs. yours? What fps are you getting?
And you should be overclocked anyway
September 8th I believe: http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=10740equap said:
Hey guys, just throwing my hat into this thead once more. I was having alot of computer issues with a rather potent and recent virus (some new trojan that locks out 90% of virus scanners and malware removal tools) anyway I got rid of it finally but was half tempted to just replace this old gal.
So while browsing newegg I noticed this- http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229102
And I notice it's got lots of good reviews, seems to have parts worth more by themselves then what the system is selling for and figured, what does gaf-pc-age think about it?
I realize there are atleast 3 flaws with this system that likely all contribute to it's lower price- it's only got 4 ram slots instead of the 6 some other motherboards have , it doesnt' come with a voucher good for a free windows 7 upgrade and finally the included videocard is low to mid teir so essentially you'd max this thing out within a year or so of upgrades and spend a few hundred bucks doing so.
Despite this , I'm curious what you guys think.
What I want in a pc is the following-
I want one based around the i7 core
I want it to run cool and quiet
I want to be able to play crysis on the highest detail setting at 30fps minimum at a resolution of 1680X1050
That last one I figure is a good ballpark because any computer that can run crysis that well can play ANYTHING else and possibly even last another year or 2 without a video card upgrade.
So while browsing newegg I noticed this- http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229102
And I notice it's got lots of good reviews, seems to have parts worth more by themselves then what the system is selling for and figured, what does gaf-pc-age think about it?
I realize there are atleast 3 flaws with this system that likely all contribute to it's lower price- it's only got 4 ram slots instead of the 6 some other motherboards have , it doesnt' come with a voucher good for a free windows 7 upgrade and finally the included videocard is low to mid teir so essentially you'd max this thing out within a year or so of upgrades and spend a few hundred bucks doing so.
Despite this , I'm curious what you guys think.
What I want in a pc is the following-
I want one based around the i7 core
I want it to run cool and quiet
I want to be able to play crysis on the highest detail setting at 30fps minimum at a resolution of 1680X1050
That last one I figure is a good ballpark because any computer that can run crysis that well can play ANYTHING else and possibly even last another year or 2 without a video card upgrade.