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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition
- Thread starter VictimOfGrief
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TrAcEr_x90
Member
can a new radeon hd 4770 run on a 350w power supply??
Didn't want to start a new thread so I figured I'd just ask this here seeing as how it's relevant. I'm having problems with sound on my computer, if I unplug an audio device while my computer's on and plug in something else it'll stop my computer from playing all sounds.
I.E I unplug my logitech g35 and plug my speakers into the audio jack, I'll get no sound coming out despite Windows picking up the device and showing that it is playing sound in the Volume Mixer.
It'll be showing me that, but I hear nothing at all. All the cords are plugged into the correct places and I have the correct device selected in the Sound Device switcher. Computer Restarts don't seem to be working either.
I.E I unplug my logitech g35 and plug my speakers into the audio jack, I'll get no sound coming out despite Windows picking up the device and showing that it is playing sound in the Volume Mixer.
It'll be showing me that, but I hear nothing at all. All the cords are plugged into the correct places and I have the correct device selected in the Sound Device switcher. Computer Restarts don't seem to be working either.
Animal
Banned
Firestorm said:
So I just did an identical build on NCIX and it was almost 300$ more expensive than newegg canada. I tried reducing some components only to find them also cheaper on newegg. One or two items on sale is not going to help them either.
The only thing they have over newegg is that everything i want is in stock and ready for immediate shipment.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Mkay, so I ordered a Phenom II X4 940 to replace my Athlon X2 7450. I've got the stock fan/cooler on my current CPU, do I have to take out my mobo to put on the new CPU fan socket.. gadget.. thingamajig that comes with the X4, or does the fan that comes with the X4 fit on the current fan socket thingie?
That's odd. Go ahead that. I know the Antec 300 is $53.99, Corsair 750TX is $89.99 after MIR, and WD 640GB is $65.99 (now $73.99) though which is all cheaper.Animal said:
You are also using the Price Match function I hope? A lot of NCIX's prices are high, but they price match any Canadian competitor.
Edit: Also, any reason you're using a $300 motherboard? Do you plan to SLI or Crossfire in the future?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Combichristoffersen said:
Umm...... I'm assuming you're just talking about the stock cooler? As far as I know they should be the same. You only need to take out the mobo on aftermarket coolers since they don't have the pins that push into the mobo, it screws into a plate you adhere to the bottom.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Yeah, I meant the stock cooler (I need to brush up on my English computer terminology :lol ). So, as both are stock AMD CPU coolers, I shouldn't have to take out the mobo? Got it. Thanks for the help!
Animal
Banned
Firestorm said:
oops i forgot the price match part :lol
Back to NCIX I go!
I also updated the specs of my build a little...i'm going with an antec p183.
Ya i want to be able to do full two card SLI/crossfire (both at 16x) and have spare slots for sound cards and stuff. I also want high quality components and good customer service from manufacturer. I will be doing a mild overclock and I want things to be rock solid for a good little while. I'm willing to drop the cash for it.
My up-to-date build is the following:
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998691
Antec P183 Black Aluminum / Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
EVGA E758-TR 3-Way SLI (x16/x16/x8) LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Intel Core i7-920 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
Total Price of build stands at 1400$ canadian @ newegg.ca .
Compare the Zalmann to this btw: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608014
I've heard really good things about Noctua as far as both cooling and noise.
I've heard really good things about Noctua as far as both cooling and noise.
If you're going the P183 route, you could also look into this combo:Animal said:I must admit that I could do a bit more research regarding CPU heatsinks. But man is that thing ugly!:lol
BTW if NCIX successfully price matches all my things, we have a winner!
http://www.ncix.com/products/index....50-P183&manufacture=Bundle Deals&promoid=1215
If you aren't a student or anything and can't get another discount, Antec products like the case you're getting qualify you for $89.99 Windows 7 Home Premium on NCIX.
You can make changes to your order even if you already placed it by calling or submitting a ticket before they ship.
Damnit, seems like no store can keep the 5770 in stock. Was going to buy tonight from Amazon (figured when I bought it this weekend didn't matter as it wouldn't ship until late Monday anyways), but when I go to try and buy, out of stock
Will just have to wait for Amazon to get back in stock unless it will take them a month :<
Will just have to wait for Amazon to get back in stock unless it will take them a month :<
Minsc
Gold Member
rhfb said:Damnit, seems like no store can keep the 5770 in stock. Was going to buy tonight from Amazon (figured when I bought it this weekend didn't matter as it wouldn't ship until late Monday anyways), but when I go to try and buy, out of stock
Will just have to wait for Amazon to get back in stock unless it will take them a month :<
Damn, Dell strikes again! :fury!!!
ATI's 5-series are like the new Wii, I hope they ramp their shipments up so they actually can be in stock for longer than a few minutes a week.
It's working for me... are you using the right link? You have to use the sale price link (promoid=1215).Animal said:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=39441&promoid=1215
There are some 5770s in stock at Newegg. The 5850 is rarer than a unicorn's horn.rhfb said:Damnit, seems like no store can keep the 5770 in stock. Was going to buy tonight from Amazon (figured when I bought it this weekend didn't matter as it wouldn't ship until late Monday anyways), but when I go to try and buy, out of stock
Will just have to wait for Amazon to get back in stock unless it will take them a month :<
Take a screenshot of your shopping cart and let's see how it looks? =P The coupon code for free shipping is entered at the top right by the way. It ends in 4 hours.Animal said:
And this isn't saving money, but if you don't want to put the PC together yourself, NCIX offers an assembly + warranty service for $50. You just add all the parts to the cart, add the Assembly option, and they'll put it together for you (including heatsink and installing OS if included, just make a note for heatsink in checkout just in case). They then ship it + all the boxes and stuff to you. They have pretty good wire management.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=7842
I did it for my PC:
Animal
Banned
Firestorm said:Take a screenshot of your shopping cart and let's see how it looks? =P The coupon code for free shipping is entered at the top right by the way. It ends in 4 hours.
And this isn't saving money, but if you don't want to put the PC together yourself, NCIX offers an assembly + warranty service for $50. You just add all the parts to the cart, add the Assembly option, and they'll put it together for you (including heatsink and installing OS if included, just make a note for heatsink in checkout just in case). They then ship it + all the boxes and stuff to you. They have pretty good wire management.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=7842
I did it for my PC:
Wow I didn't think they would do such a good job! I was kinda looking forward to putting it all together myself but I just got really lazy
I have a slight problem at the moment, the motherboard I wanted just went out of stock and I'm currently trying to find a good replacement.
I had it price matched at 299.99 from newegg.ca
Two months ago, I bought a Dell Inspiron 537 off Dell Outlet. Current Specs:
Windows 7 64-bit
Pentium Dual-Core E5400 @ 2.7 GHz
ATI Radeon HD 4350
4 GB RAM
Pretty good, until Borderlands came around, which won't run at an acceptable framerate without turning all settings to low/off and running windowed at 800x600. :/
So off a recommendation from another GAFer, I bought this Radeon HD 5750 off Newegg.
But the bloody thing won't fit! Not "won't fit" as in the case is too big, I mean the pins on the card don't match up with the PC-I Express slots on my motherboard. The card's pins are just a little too wide.
So I'll return the 5750, but now I'm scared to search for another one! Before I go aimlessly wandering the net for a new card in the hopes of randomly selecting one that actually fits, I need to know where I went wrong the first time. Is there any indication of which cards are compatible with which mobos beyond both of them listing "PC-I Express?"
Windows 7 64-bit
Pentium Dual-Core E5400 @ 2.7 GHz
ATI Radeon HD 4350
4 GB RAM
Pretty good, until Borderlands came around, which won't run at an acceptable framerate without turning all settings to low/off and running windowed at 800x600. :/
So off a recommendation from another GAFer, I bought this Radeon HD 5750 off Newegg.
But the bloody thing won't fit! Not "won't fit" as in the case is too big, I mean the pins on the card don't match up with the PC-I Express slots on my motherboard. The card's pins are just a little too wide.
So I'll return the 5750, but now I'm scared to search for another one! Before I go aimlessly wandering the net for a new card in the hopes of randomly selecting one that actually fits, I need to know where I went wrong the first time. Is there any indication of which cards are compatible with which mobos beyond both of them listing "PC-I Express?"
You could get a comparable board from another manufacturer. I love my Gigabyte board. There's one around the price range you're looking at:Animal said:Wow I didn't think they would do such a good job! I was kinda looking forward to putting it all together myself but I just got really lazy
I have a slight problem at the moment, the motherboard I wanted just went out of stock and I'm currently trying to find a good replacement.
I had it price matched at 299.99 from newegg.ca
Gigabyte EX58-UD5
http://www.ncix.com/products/?&sku=34543
http://www.onhop.ca/catalog/product/10392252
Has a well kept guide on InsanelyMac if you ever feel like putting on another HDD and running OSX on it too.
Edit: Damn, yes the case is heavy (Case+PSU = 39.99lbs). If you're not getting it assembled by them, split it into two orders?
Animal
Banned
Firestorm said:
I'm currently looking at the ASUS P6TD Deluxe. It's a bit of an increase in price over my original choice but it looks like a solid full-featured board.
I thought of that but will they check if the same user/credit-card used the special twice?
My current motherboard seems to be failing and I'm looking for a 775 Micro ATX replacement. The new mobo will be home to an E4500 and possibly an E8400 in the near future. Mandatory features that I'm looking for include:
- eSATA
- DVI and/or HDMI
- 1333 bus
- Supports 1066 for memory
- 4 memory slots with at least 8GB
- In the neighborhood of $100
Optical/Coaxial in/out would be great but it's not an absolute must.
I know Best Buy isn't exactly the best kind of source for such matters but they have one board that met a lot of my criteria (but falls short on memory and eSATA).
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Intel&#...775)/9486219.p?skuId=9486219&id=1218112692042
As for the CPU, I'm looking at getting an E8400, but I haven't ruled out going quad core. The thing is, would it make sense to get something along the lines of a Q9550/9650 at this point or would it be better to hold onto something like an E8400 (maybe Q8400?) for now and then move onto an i5/i7 sometime next year or in 2011? Not sure if spending ~$300, give or take, on a 775 socket is such a good idea at this point. This system would see constant multi-tasking with high definition media playback, image editing, compression, extraction, 3 multi tabbed browsers open at once, possible video editing in the near future and various other simultaneous tasks. I may also want to do some gaming as well. Keep in mind, I still don't know if I plan on over-clocking, though a 3.4-3.6GHz or higher E8400 may keep me happy until I move to an i7 down the line.
- eSATA
- DVI and/or HDMI
- 1333 bus
- Supports 1066 for memory
- 4 memory slots with at least 8GB
- In the neighborhood of $100
Optical/Coaxial in/out would be great but it's not an absolute must.
I know Best Buy isn't exactly the best kind of source for such matters but they have one board that met a lot of my criteria (but falls short on memory and eSATA).
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Intel&#...775)/9486219.p?skuId=9486219&id=1218112692042
As for the CPU, I'm looking at getting an E8400, but I haven't ruled out going quad core. The thing is, would it make sense to get something along the lines of a Q9550/9650 at this point or would it be better to hold onto something like an E8400 (maybe Q8400?) for now and then move onto an i5/i7 sometime next year or in 2011? Not sure if spending ~$300, give or take, on a 775 socket is such a good idea at this point. This system would see constant multi-tasking with high definition media playback, image editing, compression, extraction, 3 multi tabbed browsers open at once, possible video editing in the near future and various other simultaneous tasks. I may also want to do some gaming as well. Keep in mind, I still don't know if I plan on over-clocking, though a 3.4-3.6GHz or higher E8400 may keep me happy until I move to an i7 down the line.
Got a question for anyone knowledgeable with laptops.
I recently bought this notebook for about $400 and am pretty pleased with it except for the terrible game performance. I knew it wasn't going to be too hot and I really didn't buy it for games, but the fact that it barely runs SF4 on the lowest settings is pretty bothersome.
Anyway, I saw this one and am considering getting a refund and grabbing it. The HD 3200 supposedly isn't very hot, but I was playing on a laptop earlier tonight with one and it seemed to be running games very well. At least, a hell of a lot better than a 4500M :lol
Is there something I'm missing that explains why the 2nd one is only $50 more?
I recently bought this notebook for about $400 and am pretty pleased with it except for the terrible game performance. I knew it wasn't going to be too hot and I really didn't buy it for games, but the fact that it barely runs SF4 on the lowest settings is pretty bothersome.
Anyway, I saw this one and am considering getting a refund and grabbing it. The HD 3200 supposedly isn't very hot, but I was playing on a laptop earlier tonight with one and it seemed to be running games very well. At least, a hell of a lot better than a 4500M :lol
Is there something I'm missing that explains why the 2nd one is only $50 more?
Crazymoogle
Member
Sebulon3k said:
1. Presuming this is a desktop, are you plugging into front panel audio or rear?
2. Have you verified the G35 working elsewhere?
3. Isn't the G35 a USB headset...?
Ysiadmihi said:
Not easily, but it's a matter of loadout and manufacturer.
Acer is prone to put out cheaper goods on the low end, plus it's an Athlon X2 QL-65. The Lenovo is (probably) a better build with the T4300 and looks like it may have a better panel, but it's using onboard graphics. It's also using DDR3 which pretty much means its a newer laptop.
So basically, the Lenovo is a newer unit meant for business or casual use, while the Acer is a do-everything older unit. You're clearly better off with the Acer for gaming, particularly with it having another gig of RAM, the bigger HD, and the HD3200M, even if it ends up not being the greatest build quality (which honestly can be hard to tell, the Lenovo line doesn't quite have the reputation of the Thinkpads).
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Mo the Hawk said:
PCI-E is PCI-E. Are you sure it's a PCI-E slot?
Alright, so, I plan on upgrading my monitor in the next few weeks. I've been looking at THIS ASUS monitor, because the price is right, it's 1080p (so I can finally use my PS3 lol) and it looks decent. Does anybody have that monitor, and do you like it? All the reviews look good, so that's nice. Is there anything else that's larger/cheaper that you can recommend? (I'd really like a 23 inch monitor, but I can't really go higher price wise). Thanks for the help!
That's a sweet setup, although I'd personally get an X4 630 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103704) and use the money saved to get more RAM. i built my gf a new PC using the 620 - overclocks easily on air to 3.1ghz, runs very cool and is wicked fast.Hitmeneer said:
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Hazaro said:
I didn't think so either but I can't understand how the pins wouldn't fit.
Mo the Hawk, can you take a picture of the slot at least that you're trying to fit it into? I can't see how it wouldn't fit, it's a standard size.
Manp
Member
Firestorm said:
never use electrical tape or rubber bands on wires inside a pc... heat is going to turn them into a mess.
the rubber bands will just break, and the glue on the electrical tape will melt and turn to useless in a week or so.
you can definitely do better with cable management in that pc. of course if you're not willing to put any effort in it (which i can understand) that will do fine
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Firestorm said:
Plus I just noticed your PSU is modular. I was wondering how you had so few wires. :lol I'm definitely going modular next time.
Now that I'm thinking more clearly, the pin connectors probably do line up with the slots just fine. I just can't get the card in because:
- The slots on the mobo have the smaller segment on the right side
- The card's pins have the smaller segment on the left side
And as you can see from that mess of jagged metal to the left of my mobo, I cut that part of the case out by force just to make room. I thought I could get away with installing the card with the monitor connectors inside the case, but then I realized that the big metal hunk holding the monitor connectors extends downwards too far for the card's pins to ever fully sink into the slots anyway. Yeah - I'm a dumbass.
So I guess I need a card whose monitor connectors are next to the larger segment of its pin connectors. Do such cards exist, or is my mobo just ass-backwards?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Will you still get the benefits of using an SSD if you install your games to a separate HDD? The prices on the lower capacity SSDs are coming down to sane levels and I'm thinking about using an SSD for the OS and a larger HDD for storage.
BravoSuperStar
Member
Mo the Hawk said:
Those are regular PCI slots, the PCI-express slot is the small one right above it. But it's only a 1x speed slot, not meant for graphics cards. Where was the original card plugged in? Sorry to say, but I think you are boned as far as upgrading to a new card on that mobo.
Edit: This pic might help clarify:
