brain_stew
Member
ACE 1991 said:
Don't expect any miracles. Source engine titles should be fine, anything modern is going to be iffy at best. Keep the resolution down and never turn on MSAA or your performance will completely disappear.
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Official "I need a new PC!!" 2009 Edition
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Don't expect any miracles. Source engine titles should be fine, anything modern is going to be iffy at best. Keep the resolution down and never turn on MSAA or your performance will completely disappear.
anyone reputable online that ships spinpoint f3s in Canada? newegg.ca lists them as a "deactivated item" and ncix doesn't have them either. i'd hit up a b&m store in downtown Toronto too, but nowhere i've checked has them...brain_stew said:
you're doing a great thing here mr. stew. incredibly helpful.
shadowsdarknes
Member
I currently have a laptop with a Geforce 260M. I want to get into stereoscopic 3d gaming. It seems pretty cool. If it's really a gimmick, I'd like to here some feedback, but it sounds awesome to me.
I was looking at the Samsung Syncmaster 22 inch.
Should I be able to render the games on my laptop and have them displayed fine on this monitor?
It comes with glasses from what I'm seeing. Plus PS3 is getting this feature eventually so I figure that's a plus. What do you guys think?
I was looking at the Samsung Syncmaster 22 inch.
Should I be able to render the games on my laptop and have them displayed fine on this monitor?
It comes with glasses from what I'm seeing. Plus PS3 is getting this feature eventually so I figure that's a plus. What do you guys think?
You are going to need a lot more power imo. Whatever FPS you get on your laptop is basically going to be cut in half, then even more for the resolution bump.
iirc the 260M is around a desktop 9600GT?
Also brain_stew, cheers on keeping this thread up. Certainly a lot to deal with.
iirc the 260M is around a desktop 9600GT?
Also brain_stew, cheers on keeping this thread up. Certainly a lot to deal with.
brain_stew
Member
shadowsdarknes said:
That's a desktop 9800GT, right? Not nearly enough for stereoscopic 3D as your framerates will cut in half.
shadowsdarknes
Member
brain_stew said:
Well.. According to Nvidia's website, it says I'm above the recommended levels (not minimum) to run this. I'd be happy to run some MW2 or Oblivion or something.
But if my framerates are going to die, I'll be pretty upset. Guess I'll wait a few years for everything to get cheaper.
brain_stew
Member
shadowsdarknes said:
Well.. According to Nvidia's website, it says I'm above the recommended levels (not minimum) to run this. I'd be happy to run some MW2 or Oblivion or something.
But if my framerates are going to die, I'll be pretty upset. Guess I'll wait a few years for everything to get cheaper.
They'll literally be cut in half (or worse), at 1680x1050 that aint going to be pretty.
brain_stew said:
i fucking love you sir
i've get everything sorted now. i found a case with a 450w power supply too which i assume will be ok.
the only think i need now is some cheap ram. what's the best value for money when it comes to DDR3? i want about 3 or 4 gigs for as cheap as possible
brain_stew
Member
Sipowicz said:
For a case/PSU on the cheap get this, can't be beat, PSU is solid whereas most bundled PSUs aren't:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135101
You'll need a 2x2GB set. I'd get this pair:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166463
brain_stew
Member
birdchili said:
Yes.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
Anyone here own an SSD? i'm tempted.
SundaySounds
Banned
fizzelopeguss said:
If you've got the funds for it, then good for you. They're fucking awesome.
Looking to get some more out of my pc. I'm sure my cpu is holding back my system, but I'd also like to get a new gpu (once the 58xx drop back to launch prices)
sys:
7750 kuma @ 3.4
XFX 260 (690/1200/1444, though keep it stock)
Biostar 790GX A2+
Corsair 4gb 1066
TX750
23" 19X1080
Just looking at game performance, would you recommend X3 720, X4 620, maybe X2 550 or spend the extra cash and dump in a 945 (that highest Phenom II my mb support at the time). The first 3 options seem the best to me, as far a price/performance goes.
sys:
7750 kuma @ 3.4
XFX 260 (690/1200/1444, though keep it stock)
Biostar 790GX A2+
Corsair 4gb 1066
TX750
23" 19X1080
Just looking at game performance, would you recommend X3 720, X4 620, maybe X2 550 or spend the extra cash and dump in a 945 (that highest Phenom II my mb support at the time). The first 3 options seem the best to me, as far a price/performance goes.
brain_stew
Member
Rahnter said:
Your current processor isn't half bad, you'd only see the difference if you stepped up to a quad imo. I say go pick up an el cheapo Phenom ii X4 925 and clock the tits off it.
brain_stew said:
that's WAY too rich for my blood. 80 quid for 4gb of ram and 55 quid for a case is way beyond me
i can get a case for about 20 quid with a 450w power supply. As for RAM i found the following. it's 6gb but i can sell 2gb of it to my little brother
Rendition 6GB DDR3 (3 x 2048MB) PC3-10660 (1333MHz) TRI Channel Kit
£88.95 inc. VA
# Each three module set is tested at 1333MHz
# 6144 Megabytes of DDR3 memory
# Three 2GB modules
do you reckon that will be alright?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Sipowicz said:
I've never heard of that brand name.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Sipowicz said:
The biggest deal is if it's a decent brand. What frequency does your motherboard support? Why did you jump from 1333 to 1866?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Where are you looking at for ram prices? How much more is it to get an actual good brand ram?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Sipowicz said:
What do you mean how much more than that? What brand was the 4gb for 90 quid? What are you using your computer for? You probably don't need more than 4gb.
brain_stew
Member
Sipowicz said:
You'll also get free explosions as well, I mean we all like indoor explosion, right. That PSU/case combo is the absolute least you can get away with spending.
DO NOT BUY A CHEAPER PSU THAN THIS ONE. IT WILL BLOW UP. Yes, I'm deadly serious.
You do not want three RAM DIMMs either, as you should be running your RAM in dual channel mode. So just get the two sticks I linked you to, they're from a reliable quality brand, and cost less whilst being more suitable. You should not be buying RAM from an unknown brand, its a big no-no.
Cheaping out to extreme degrees like this only ends up costing you more in the long run, heed my warnings.
Sipowicz said:
It was £80 for 4GB of quality Corsair RAM with free delivery from a very reputable etailer, very reasonable. You get what you pay for.
SundaySounds
Banned
What is a good CPU cooler for an AM3 socket? I'm looking to clock my 955 from 3.2 to at least 4.0.
I was looking at this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...=OTC-Froogle-_-CPU+Cooling-_-Antec-_-35209019
Seems like it would get the job done, and it's blue, which matches my setup.
Any thoughts?
I was looking at this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...=OTC-Froogle-_-CPU+Cooling-_-Antec-_-35209019
Seems like it would get the job done, and it's blue, which matches my setup.
Any thoughts?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367427fizzelopeguss said:
Aesius
Member
Aesius said:
Well, I ended up grabbing a 4850 on impulse from eBay for $85 shipped.
Looks like I can expect about 2-3 FPS more than the 4770 but higher temps and a larger power draw.
I honestly would have preferred the 4770 but I don't really like rebates - and I especially don't like waiting 8 weeks for one that may or may not arrive.
I'm looking to buy a PC and have found these two that I like and am undecided on which one to get. Which of these two do you guys think would be a better buy for gaming? I'm not really good with computers so I can't build one and don't know how to OC.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...227174&cm_re=ibuypower-_-83-227-174-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113103&cm_re=gateway-_-83-113-103-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...227174&cm_re=ibuypower-_-83-227-174-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113103&cm_re=gateway-_-83-113-103-_-Product
Gully State
Member
jett said:
They want you to upgrade..
brain_stew said:
still man, 80 quid for 4 gb of ram is ridiculous. that's like 20 quid per gb
as for case,why would something cheaper blow up? my little brothers been using one he got for under 35 quid and it's fine
i wanted to build a half decent gaming pc for about 200 quid but this is verging on 300 quid mark and i still need to get a half decent monitor!
I might just wait a bit to see if there's any special offers anywhere for cheaper stuff. at the moment this is going out of my budget
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Septimus said:
Ive got mine at 3.2 with the multiplier knocked up. been running smooth since March.
No other settings changed.
OK. I'm thinking about purchasing the parts for a core i5 system, and working through a few different sites I got the price down to about $850 with a mixture of combo deals and just taking the cheapest price.
Stats of what I have so far (haven't purchased anything yet)
-core i5
-hd 5770 vid card
-730watt PSU
-4gb ram
-22 inch 1080p monitor
rest of stuff is average, got it to about $850
I have a few questions I could hopefully find some answers to:
- Is this the cheapest I can make a core i5 build for?
- Is it wise to go AMD Phenom 955? I can make a build with that as well, but it's only about $100 cheaper in the end, since ram is so ridiculously expensive lately
- Is there some other system I can make, such as a Core2quad that will get me similar performance but at a cheaper price?
*EDIT*
seems like i can shave another $50 bucks or so going HD 5750, and if i hunt around for a cheaper monitor i can probably get more... sub 800 would make this thing perfect for me
Stats of what I have so far (haven't purchased anything yet)
-core i5
-hd 5770 vid card
-730watt PSU
-4gb ram
-22 inch 1080p monitor
rest of stuff is average, got it to about $850
I have a few questions I could hopefully find some answers to:
- Is this the cheapest I can make a core i5 build for?
- Is it wise to go AMD Phenom 955? I can make a build with that as well, but it's only about $100 cheaper in the end, since ram is so ridiculously expensive lately
- Is there some other system I can make, such as a Core2quad that will get me similar performance but at a cheaper price?
*EDIT*
seems like i can shave another $50 bucks or so going HD 5750, and if i hunt around for a cheaper monitor i can probably get more... sub 800 would make this thing perfect for me
brain_stew
Member
SundaySounds said:
Get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004&Tpk=sunbeam 120mm
4ghz is a little ambitious, don't be surprised if it craps out at 3.6ghz.
TheHeretic
Banned
alternade said:
Can't improve on that rig much under $600. The best upgrade path is to get a better GPU but a 5850 takes you well over budget and is in short supply.
An i5 will give you better performance, but an i5 750 is $200 taking you over budget.
You can swap out the CPU for this if you want to go from 3 cores to 4:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...56&cm_re=and_phenom_II-_-19-103-656-_-Product
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Sipowicz said:
Yes, OCZ is a good brand.
thanks guys. i think i'll probably get the OCZ RAM. one question though
in the description it says that it's "designed specifically for the Intel® Core i7 processor / Intel® X58 Express Chipset. Optimized for the Core i7s triple channel mode, these new 3GB, 6GB, and 12GB kits ensure optimal performance via an ideal combination of low voltage requirements, speed, and latency."
will it make any difference that i'm using a AMD processor?
in the description it says that it's "designed specifically for the Intel® Core i7 processor / Intel® X58 Express Chipset. Optimized for the Core i7s triple channel mode, these new 3GB, 6GB, and 12GB kits ensure optimal performance via an ideal combination of low voltage requirements, speed, and latency."
will it make any difference that i'm using a AMD processor?
brain_stew
Member
Sipowicz said:
The "case" won't blow up, but the PSU sure as hell will. You can build a nice system on a budget but you're doing no one a favour by buying shitty parts, £200 was never realistic. If you don't have the cash yet, then save up, it'll cost you less in the long run.
RAM prices have shot up in the last few months, that's just the way things are, nothing anyone can do about it.
brain_stew said:
yeah my little brother was saying the same thing
i think i'll be able to get that 50 quid case you said and it looks really good too. what i can also do is get the 6gb OCZ RAM for 80 quid and sell 2GB of it. assuming it wont be extra shit on AMD stuff because it's made for intel ones
that should put the cost of RAM and the case to about 100 quid which isn't too bad. i've got everything else sorted
brain_stew
Member
Sipowicz said:
I use OCZ RAM its fine, be aware sometimes they expect you to pump a higher amount of voltage through their chips to get the advertised speeds.
By the looks of it you're buying a 3x2GB set. You only want two RAM DIMMs not three or you won't be running in dual channel mode.
Edit: Selling the spare DIMM is fine, where are you getting 6GB of DDR3 for £80 from?
That case has got really good airflow, I use it myself, I'd recommend getting an extra 120mm fan to fit in the front. The PSU in it is currently powering my brother's rig, its got all the necessary safety features and is very solid.