Labombadog
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I would recommend getting either an ATI 4770 card or a 4830 to last you longer than 3850 card. Also, take Evillore's suggestion and use W7 until next year.Jasconius said:
Good luck and enjoy!
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Good luck and enjoy!
Oh yeah, I forgot to put in why I chose that card - I'm not planning on upgrading my monitor currently which is a 17" 1280x1024 native resolution monitor. I just chose the video card based on the OP which said it could do 60fps easily at that resolution. Since it looks like it's about $40 more for the 4770, I'll probably just stick with the 3850 and just buy a new video card when and if I actually upgrade the monitor, unless there's a reason to still get a better one now.Labombadog said:I would recommend getting either an ATI 4770 card or a 4830 to last you longer than 3850 card. Also, take Evillore's suggestion and use W7 until next year.
Good luck and enjoy!
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
EviLore said:
Does publicly mean it'll be on their site for a while or public like the beta was where it was available for a couple hours?
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx
"On Tuesday, May 5 (PST), the RC will be available to everyone via our Customer Preview Program. As with the Beta, the Windows 7 RC Customer Preview Program is a broad public program that offers the RC free to anyone who wants to download it. It will be available at least through June 30, 2009, with no limits on the number of downloads or product keys available."
ElectricBlue187
Member
jebus the ATI 4770 makes me want to buy so bad
but I must be strong
but I must be strong
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
EviLore said:
Ah, cool. Thanks for the help.
I'm going to have to yoink out the dvd drive again to run memtest
GIGABYTE EP45 UD3L motherboard
2x2gb gskill ram, put into same coloured slots
Intel e5200 2.5ghz
EVGA 260GTX
640GB SATA harddrive
The case is an antec with a 430W PSU. There is a 120mm case fan with a speed control set to high. One of the GPU plugs is the six ended one from the PSU and the other is an adapter attached to 2 4 plugs.
Windows xp 32bit, SP3, I ran the driver disc with my motherboard(networking would not work without it)
What do you mean by triple checking cables?
GIGABYTE EP45 UD3L motherboard
2x2gb gskill ram, put into same coloured slots
Intel e5200 2.5ghz
EVGA 260GTX
640GB SATA harddrive
The case is an antec with a 430W PSU. There is a 120mm case fan with a speed control set to high. One of the GPU plugs is the six ended one from the PSU and the other is an adapter attached to 2 4 plugs.
Windows xp 32bit, SP3, I ran the driver disc with my motherboard(networking would not work without it)
What do you mean by triple checking cables?
MWS Natural
Member
Grayman said:
Have you done any overclocking? Is the CPU fan and case fans working properly? How are you temps? Did you do a fresh install of windows? You can run chkdsk to see if you HDD has any bad sectors. You probably just missed a cable somewhere or something is overheating. Just a few things off the top of my head.
Gully State
Member
Grayman said:
Had the same problem awhile back, for me it turned out to be my powersupply.
I did 3 things
1) ran memtest to make sure it wasn't faulty ram
2) Checked GPU temps, updated my drivers
3) Checked CPU temps
After that I replaced the powersupply with a slightly beefier one and all became well.
no overclocking. I left all the cpu related settings in the bios as they were. The CPU fan seems fine, although it points "up" at the power supply.MWS Natural said:
The case fan seemed to be working fine. First time through building I did not have it hooked up and the PC was running fine then as an open box. I unplugged it again because the connection was a little lose, after memtest I'll put it back on.
Grayman said:
fresh windows install. will be installing again when I get my hands on windows 7 rc.
If it is heat I do not see what i can do. If it is a bad power supply or cable I do not know how to be sure.
After you run memtest try pointing the case fan at the GPU, maybe some other component is getting too hot.
As for CPU temp, 37C is not loaded... It should be hitting 50-70C load.
Try a different program instead or check your options.
What do you mean it points up?
A picture would be nice. (Non reference 260 right?)
As for CPU temp, 37C is not loaded... It should be hitting 50-70C load.
Try a different program instead or check your options.
What do you mean it points up?
A picture would be nice. (Non reference 260 right?)
So I did a little research (still very new at this) and this is what I came up with. Is anything wrong and/or missing? (I don't need a monitor, mouse/keyboard, hard drives)
OCZ Reaper Hpc Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 Dual Channel EPP Memory Kit
$74.29 - Has a 20 dollar mail-in rebate to $54.29
Silverstone Strider ST400 400W ATX12V 24PIN Power Supply W/120MM Fan
$52.70
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 1366+ 1PCI-E SATA2 RAID HD Sound GLAN 1394A Motherboard
$139.81
Compucase 6C28B ATX Case Black 4X5.25 2X3.5 4X.3.5INT W/ Front USB & Audio No PS
$37.51
Sapphire Radeon Hd 4830 575MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ GDDR3 Hdmi Dvi TV-OUT PCI-E Video Card
$107.59
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 Quad Core Processor LGA775 2.33GHZ Yorkfield 1333FSB 4MB Retail Box
$208.88
TOTAL $620.78 (All Canadian dollars by the way, prices from www.directcanada.com)
OCZ Reaper Hpc Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15 Dual Channel EPP Memory Kit
$74.29 - Has a 20 dollar mail-in rebate to $54.29
Silverstone Strider ST400 400W ATX12V 24PIN Power Supply W/120MM Fan
$52.70
Gigabyte EP45-UD3R ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 1366+ 1PCI-E SATA2 RAID HD Sound GLAN 1394A Motherboard
$139.81
Compucase 6C28B ATX Case Black 4X5.25 2X3.5 4X.3.5INT W/ Front USB & Audio No PS
$37.51
Sapphire Radeon Hd 4830 575MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ GDDR3 Hdmi Dvi TV-OUT PCI-E Video Card
$107.59
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 Quad Core Processor LGA775 2.33GHZ Yorkfield 1333FSB 4MB Retail Box
$208.88
TOTAL $620.78 (All Canadian dollars by the way, prices from www.directcanada.com)
I was not able to get very good pictures. I can get the dvd drive and its cable out of the way if I finish up memtest and shutdown. Arrows are airflow from fans.
http://torchthebridge.com/grayman/IMGP2053.JPG
http://torchthebridge.com/grayman/IMGP2054.JPG
http://torchthebridge.com/grayman/IMGP2053.JPG
http://torchthebridge.com/grayman/IMGP2054.JPG
Labled airflow on CPU fan is wrong and GPU.Grayman said:
Your CPU fan should look like this.
Otherwise you are blowing hot air into your case, although it should not be causing you these problems.
Septim, check the techreport link in the OP. Wait for 4770 with proper cooler for GPU.
Yes.markot said:
What resolution will you be playing at? That will be the main determining factor on which video card you need.markot said:
If you can see yourself definitely upgrading the CPU down the line, a DDR3 (AM3) board might be worth the additional cost. Otherwise it's a lot of extra expense for no real benefit.markot said:
MWS Natural
Member
markot said:
You can build a Phenom II x3 720BE system for around $500 sans graphics card, checkout some of the buyers guides in the OP. The E8400 and the PII x3 are the best value processors out there right now.
TheHeretic
Banned
markot said:
It depends on what sorts of games you play and what your standards are for graphics settings. Get an AMD 720, 4 gigs of DDR2 800 and a 4770/4850/4870/GTX 260.
There's a tonne of benchmarks here for different games on the 4770: http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-radeon-hd-4770-review/1 . That should give you a pretty good idea. It looks like the 4770 will go around around the $160 mark here. Personally I'd spend the extra ~$100 and get a 4870 or GTX260. That will up your power requirement though, so I guess it depends on your budget.markot said:
have a question if anyone can help.
I'm putting together a i7 system and was just wondering what power supply I should get.
Asus P6T
Intel i7 920
BFG 260 GTX
2x HDDs
TV Tuner
DVD (I'm thinking of adding a blu-ray player in the future)
I'm looking at the Corsair HX 620W. Would this be enough power for such a system? The next one up is 1000W and £90 more.
Also, what's your thoughts on the Asus P6T? Reviews seem a bit mixed on this board.
I'm putting together a i7 system and was just wondering what power supply I should get.
Asus P6T
Intel i7 920
BFG 260 GTX
2x HDDs
TV Tuner
DVD (I'm thinking of adding a blu-ray player in the future)
I'm looking at the Corsair HX 620W. Would this be enough power for such a system? The next one up is 1000W and £90 more.
Also, what's your thoughts on the Asus P6T? Reviews seem a bit mixed on this board.
Minsc
Gold Member
D4Danger said:
That Corsair 620 HX modular PSU is great (especially for keeping things neat), and I asked earlier if it could handle 2 video cards, and it sure can was the reply. So all that and more if you need it.
You may want to go with a 275 if the price isn't that much different, it's like the updated version of the 260, and you may find there to be less than $40 difference.
So I currently have this laptop:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220404
Am thinking about selling it and building myself a gaming a gaming rig. I bought it for a little over $1300 and selling it back on ebayt anywhere from $950 - 1100.
Will I be able to build a decent rig and get myself a nice HD tv to go with along with it ?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220404
Am thinking about selling it and building myself a gaming a gaming rig. I bought it for a little over $1300 and selling it back on ebayt anywhere from $950 - 1100.
Will I be able to build a decent rig and get myself a nice HD tv to go with along with it ?
Which laptop should I get for some moderate gaming, Lenovo Y Series or Dell? I want to Diablo 3, new Final Fantasy MMO (if it ever comes out), Battlefield Heroes, and Diablo 3
Lenovo Y
Dell Studio
Lenovo Y
Dell Studio
Minsc
Gold Member
I'm really surprised MS is going to let the RC be free & valid until June 2010.
Means if you're building a PC you can order everything now, and get around to buying/installing the retail copy at your leisure, skipping Vista.
Well, my #1 reason for waiting is gone, so not much longer left now for me! Just have to make sure the RC is compatible with my motherboard.
Means if you're building a PC you can order everything now, and get around to buying/installing the retail copy at your leisure, skipping Vista.
Well, my #1 reason for waiting is gone, so not much longer left now for me! Just have to make sure the RC is compatible with my motherboard.
I have 10 days left on my Step up program for my EVGA 9800gtx+. I don't know if I should get the GTX 260 216 core for $50.70 or the GTX 275 for $100.70. How long does it usually take them to ship the card to me and do I have to ship them the card before they send it to me? That would leave me with my broken Ati 3850. I'm looking at the 2009 games and I don't know which ones I wouldn't be able to run with reasonable settings on my 9800gtx+.
My setup is an i7 920 at 3.6Ghz with 6GB DDR3 1600 RAM and I will be playing at 1680x1050.
My setup is an i7 920 at 3.6Ghz with 6GB DDR3 1600 RAM and I will be playing at 1680x1050.
Diablohead
Member
Yeah having a "free" windows 7 will be nice but i'm still keeping my install of XP around, who knows what bugs still lay within the beta builds.Minsc said:
I'm still waiting for my pc to arrive, it's been 14 days now so it should be here any day now.
Thanks but I've gone through the benches before. I'm more curious about future games. Is there anything on the horizon that looks like it will stress my PC to the point where it needs a new video card? I know it's hard to tell when the games haven't been released yet. I already own just about every game I want to own that is out right now and I can run them fine. I am also getting suspicious at these numbers when a 250 beats a 295.Minsc said:
Minsc
Gold Member
zbarron said:
Probably just CPU limited, and drivers make a big difference. I remember things like that happening before with poorly optimized drivers.
Future games? I think you have the effects of what is looking to be a longer than normal console generation lingering on to PC games somewhat, and causing requirements to stay lower, for now anyway. I can't think of any upcoming 2009 or 2010 games that will be more demanding than Crysis unfortunately.
Confidence Man
Member
So I've been looking at getting the Phenom 2 X3 that someone linked to above with this ASUS mb when I saw this combo deal ($30 off):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.191004
What's the benefit of going with the AM3 socket? Is a Phenom 2 X4 core AM2+ better than a Phenom 2 X3 core AM3 (both clocked at 2.8) for about the same price? The X4 is not a "black edition", if that matters at all.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.191004
What's the benefit of going with the AM3 socket? Is a Phenom 2 X4 core AM2+ better than a Phenom 2 X3 core AM3 (both clocked at 2.8) for about the same price? The X4 is not a "black edition", if that matters at all.
Crazymoogle
Member
zbarron said:
Step-up puts you on a waiting list, so I would suggest getting onboard. I don't really see a $50 difference between those two cards, but I haven't been intensely staring at the benchmarks (well, that and I have a 285). The waiting list can be awhile, but as I recall you don't send in until they have something for you, after that the process shouldn't take very long since they ship from within the US.
I'm bringing home a terrabyte hard drive today
Just wondering though, whether or not I should give Windows Vista a separate partition? I could see it being advantageous for formatting purposes but I'm not sure if it's worth it. Do you decrease read/write speeds when windows is on a separate partition? If I should partition it, how much space should I leave for vista?
Just wondering though, whether or not I should give Windows Vista a separate partition? I could see it being advantageous for formatting purposes but I'm not sure if it's worth it. Do you decrease read/write speeds when windows is on a separate partition? If I should partition it, how much space should I leave for vista?
dasupremeone
Member
Did anyone else pick up a 24" 1900 x 1200 dell monitor for 199? I am loving mine. GPU is a 9800 gt
Minsc
Gold Member
Proc said:I'm bringing home a terrabyte hard drive today
Just wondering though, whether or not I should give Windows Vista a separate partition? I could see it being advantageous for formatting purposes but I'm not sure if it's worth it. Do you decrease read/write speeds when windows is on a separate partition? If I should partition it, how much space should I leave for vista?
I find it best to have your OS partition imaged regularly (to a separate drive), for peace of mind. You don't want a 1TB partition for your OS drive, as that will make backups a pain... partition it to the smallest size you feel comfortable with. My XP install is a 20 gig partition, of which I only use about 12 gigs. I have True Image 2009, which does automatic backups, so if anything goes wrong I can restore my computer without worry, in a matter of minutes, even if the drive fails.
Speed really shouldn't be changed too much, just that mechanical drives are going to be faster on the outside platters I think. I'm not sure how much of a real world difference that would make.
UnholySpectacle
Member
I am looking at this setup right now:
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=36217&ViewDetailedSpecifications=1#systemfeature
Any thoughts? It seems like a pretty solid machine for gaming and graphic design. Do I need Vista 64 bit since it is over 4GBs of ram?
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=36217&ViewDetailedSpecifications=1#systemfeature
Any thoughts? It seems like a pretty solid machine for gaming and graphic design. Do I need Vista 64 bit since it is over 4GBs of ram?
Crazymoogle
Member
UnholySpectacle said:
Yeah, basically. Or you can run Windows 7 x64 RC for free for a year and then switch to Windows 7 x64 retail. You don't "need" x64 Windows but if you don't use x64, you will basically be stuck with only half of the memory.
The setup is pretty darn good. i7 920, Antec 900, Radeon 4870 1GB...not much to say. Even the hard drive is fast. You're missing monitor/keyboard/mouse but the setup is fine.