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Official Mac OS X Snow Leopard thread of Shipping 8/28!!

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mrkgoo

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Ok, installed Xcode - had no idea if I needed the UNIX dev tools, but I went ahead and installed them anyway. Compiling some software using fink now.

Yay for underlining green! Grammar checking?
 

Jasoco

Banned
I never had a problem with Flip4Mac at all since switching two months ago.

Could it be because I have Perian? Because I never had F4M complain at all. WMV files opened normally like a trooper.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
mrkgoo said:
Ok, installed Xcode - had no idea if I needed the UNIX dev tools, but I went ahead and installed them anyway. Compiling some software using fink now.
Yes, you needed it.
 

Jasoco

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mrkgoo said:
FLip4mac for quicktime x or 7?

On that note, do I need to uninstall and reinstall perian? (<- haha spell corrected)? Do these codecs work for QuicktimeX?
I didn't.

I didn't have to reinstall anything.
 

aparisi2274

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I was having an issue with my .wmv playing with the new Quicktime Player. It kept saying I needed to have Quicktime installed to play this file, and I kept right clicking on the file and selecting open with Quicktime and then checking off to always open with this program. It would work, but not all the time.

Thanks for the info on the update. Now everything seems to be working ok.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Ack, help GAF!

I have an early 2008 MBP, and the optical drive isn't accepting the SL disc (or any other disc). It reads it, and then spits it out like it's not an acceptable format. I tried rebooting the SMC, and that didn't seem to help.

Any ideas? I wanted to get SL going this weekend. ;_;
 

Jasoco

Banned
thetrin said:
Ack, help GAF!

I have an early 2008 MBP, and the optical drive isn't accepting the SL disc (or any other disc). It reads it, and then spits it out like it's not an acceptable format. I tried rebooting the SMC, and that didn't seem to help.

Any ideas? I wanted to get SL going this weekend. ;_;
Drive might be borked. Time to visit ye old Mac Retailer and get it fixed.
 

HUELEN10

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DoctorWho said:
Installed, seems much snappier that 10.5 so far. My dock icons also seem more colourful for some reason.
Gamma was upped. Don't know if this is the reason you are seeing this though, could be the color profiles.

Still trying to find that USB male extender for my optical drive. I have been looking for hours. Don't tell me to jut drive down to big lots and get one though, one of my tires blew out. :(
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Jasoco said:
Drive might be borked. Time to visit ye old Mac Retailer and get it fixed.

God dammit, I just had the left side fan fixed. It's like everything is breaking all at once.
 

mrkgoo

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Hitokage said:
Yes, you needed it.

Good thing then. Thanks :) I'm still learning all of this. I couldn't remember if I needed to last time or not. It has been a while, and I'm reinstalling fink with 64-bit enabled.
 

mrkgoo

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HUELEN10 said:
Gamma was upped.

It's not just gamma. There's something about how 10.6 treats colour profiles. Even my old color profile is more vibrant. I've made anecdotal comparisons with an old colour profile that used to match the old default profile, but they don't any more (it was made using a SPyder, and that thing creates some weird files).

It's like the colour temperature is much closer to 6500K now.
 

Jasoco

Banned
thetrin said:
God dammit, I just had the left side fan fixed. It's like everything is breaking all at once.
Did your warranty run out? Or are you under AppleCare still? My fan seems to not like keeping things cool for me now and I have to get it fixed, unless I decide to say fuck it and replace it as fast as I can save up the money. I mentioned it took me three tries to get the install to go all the way through because it kept overheating like 20% from the end twice. (I didn't buy AppleCare.)
 

HUELEN10

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thetrin said:
God dammit, I just had the left side fan fixed. It's like everything is breaking all at once.
Let me guess something about your drive...

Still reads CDs right?

If this is the case, all you need to do is clean the lens and tighten one screw. I personally aid "fuck it" though and removed the drive and went to external route. Thinking about using the space for a card reader actually...
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
HUELEN10 said:
Let me guess something about your drive...

Still reads CDs right?

If this is the case, all you need to do is clean the lens and tighten one screw. I personally aid "fuck it" though and removed the drive and went to external route. Thinking about using the space for a card reader actually...

External drive huh? Would any external drive work, or would it have to be Apple "approved"?
 

HUELEN10

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thetrin said:
External drive huh? Would any external drive work, or would it have to be Apple "approved"?
You can use pretty much anything, but I modded a MacBook Air drive. That thing is SLICK.

Incidentally, if you have a 17 inch MBP you can pop out the MacBook Air optical drive from its casing and swap it out. It is the same drive.

For installing 10.6, just find any old drive that can read a DVD-9. So pretty much anything.

Seriously, in this day and age the external optical drive makes sense to me.
 

thetrin

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HUELEN10 said:
You can use pretty much anything, but I modded a MacBook Air drive. That thing is SLICK.

Incidentally, if you have a 17 inch MBP you can pop out the MacBook Air optical drive from its casing and swap it out. It is the same drive.

For installing 10.6, just find any old drive that can read a DVD-9.

I have an early 2008 15" unfortunately.

How much do external dvd drives run these days?

Jasoco said:
Did your warranty run out? Or are you under AppleCare still? My fan seems to not like keeping things cool for me now and I have to get it fixed, unless I decide to say fuck it and replace it as fast as I can save up the money. I mentioned it took me three tries to get the install to go all the way through because it kept overheating like 20% from the end twice. (I didn't buy AppleCare.)

Warranty ran out a long time ago, and I couldn't afford applecare back when I first bought the MBP.
 

HUELEN10

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thetrin said:
I have an early 2008 15" unfortunately.

How much do external dvd drives run these days?
It varies, but here is a half-decent one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827270001

This is a nice one.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002C1BBU8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

You know, sometimes I see fully returnable for a refund open box optical drives. Why not browse around a best buy or walmart and just "pay to borrow one" for installation? Basically buy it and return it. If you need 10.6 bad enough, this might be the way to go until you can get a GOOD external online, or your internal swapped.
 

thetrin

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HUELEN10 said:
It varies, but here is a half-decent one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827270001

This is a nice one.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002C1BBU8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

You know, sometimes I see fully returnable for a refund open box optical drives. Why not browse around a best buy or walmart and just "pay to borrow one" for installation? Basically buy it and return it. If you need 10.6 bad enough, this might be the way to go until you can get a GOOD external online, or your internal swapped.

Under what possible pretense would they take an opened drive back?
 

Jasoco

Banned
thetrin said:
Warranty ran out a long time ago, and I couldn't afford applecare back when I first bought the MBP.
AppleCare can be bought within 365 days of purchase. I made the mistake of not buying it on the last day of my warranty when I got my Topcase replaced.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Jasoco said:
AppleCare can be bought within 365 days of purchase. I made the mistake of not buying it on the last day of my warranty when I got my Topcase replaced.

It's an early 2008 MBP. I just never got around to it, and when my mac started having issues where I really needed it, it was kinda too late.
 

thetrin

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HUELEN10 said:
Depends on the store, YMMV.

You could always try this. IMO, EVERY PERSON WHO HAS AN OPTICAL DRIVE NEEDS ONE.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00178HN0O/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It is a damn good product.

Yeah, if it's something I SHOULD have anyway, there's certainly no harm and going to pick one up. Best Buy is just down the street, I might just pop in right now and pick one up.
 

mrkgoo

Member
thetrin said:
I have an early 2008 15" unfortunately.

How much do external dvd drives run these days?



Warranty ran out a long time ago, and I couldn't afford applecare back when I first bought the MBP.

Man, I had my screen, my trackpad (and consequently top case), and my DVD drive replaced under warranty for my early 2008 MBP.
 

mrkgoo

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Hitokage said:
Yes, you needed it.

Why does it take so Loooooooong *whine*.


Hmm. Maybe you can help me - is it in my best interests to use the latests 2.4 X11 over the 2.3.4 that Snow Leopard came with? Is that, or does it even need to be 64-bit ready?
 

mrkgoo

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Some Snow Leopard quirks I've noticed:

- not sure how to change the icon size in my stacks. They look huge and ugly when I open my apps folder. I had to change to list. That said, when I changed to list, and the go to options, there's an option for 'fan', but that just takes you back to automatic (I'm guessing because fan is not an option for a vertical dock).

- When changing spaces, there's no longer an arrow, but the highlighted screen moves to the next space.

Some things I LOVE:

- Setting the minimise to dock to minimise to application. It's like a hide window!
- Spell correction and grammar check.
- Expose in dock, new dock menus
- new color profile handling
- four finger gestures (although I activated them anyway on 10.5)


Things I'm undecided about:
- date in menu bar. Was seconds always an option for the clock?

Things I don't like so far:
- purple border around expose windows
- expose in dock, when i hold to quit, it exposes, which is disconcerting for me. For now anyway
- Battery indicator in menu now tells me I should replace it soon.
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
mrkgoo said:
Man, I had my screen, my trackpad (and consequently top case), and my DVD drive replaced under warranty for my early 2008 MBP.

Only repair I've had on the MBP was the fan, and they waived the labor, so thank goodness for small miracles. :p

That said, I might just get a cheap external to install SL instead of spending the cash to get mine fixed right now.
 

Tron 2.0

Member
Did Apple bork the ability to change the application icon on certain apps? Mail kicked back to the default icon and I can't change it back anymore. The default Mail icon is icky. :(
 

Particle Physicist

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mrkgoo said:
Some Snow Leopard quirks I've noticed:

- not sure how to change the icon size in my stacks. They look huge and ugly when I open my apps folder. I had to change to list. That said, when I changed to list, and the go to options, there's an option for 'fan', but that just takes you back to automatic (I'm guessing because fan is not an option for a vertical dock).

- When changing spaces, there's no longer an arrow, but the highlighted screen moves to the next space.

Some things I LOVE:

- Setting the minimise to dock to minimise to application. It's like a hide window!
- Spell correction and grammar check.
- Expose in dock, new dock menus
- new color profile handling
- four finger gestures (although I activated them anyway on 10.5)


Things I'm undecided about:
- date in menu bar. Was seconds always an option for the clock?

Things I don't like so far:
- purple border around expose windows
- expose in dock, when i hold to quit, it exposes, which is disconcerting for me. For now anyway
- Battery indicator in menu now tells me I should replace it soon.


i'm going nuts. how do you minimize to application?

or expose in dock...


:(
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
mrkgoo said:
Hmm. Maybe you can help me - is it in my best interests to use the latests 2.4 X11 over the 2.3.4 that Snow Leopard came with? Is that, or does it even need to be 64-bit ready?
It certainly doesn't hurt. XQuartz is what Apple uses anyway.
 

pj

Banned
quadriplegicjon said:
i'm going nuts. how do you minimize to application?

or expose in dock...


:(

system preferences -> dock -> check minimize windows into application icon

expose in dock is just click and hold on an application

Edit: Just noticed iStat menus don't work anymore
 

mrkgoo

Member
Hitokage said:
It certainly doesn't hurt. XQuartz is what Apple uses anyway.

Yes I believe this is true. The Mac OS forge release went from 2.3.3.2 to 2.4. Apple's implementation is 2.3.4. Just wondering if anything was added to it that is different to what is in 2.4.0.

I used to download precompiled binaries and then update from there with fink. This is my first compile from source (I think you have to for 64-bit - there's no pre-compiled binary for this software, I think). How long does it take *whine*?
 

mrkgoo

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Hitokage said:
Um, I dunno if you've ever compiled software before in any situation, but the large projects take a while. ;)

YEah, I was just looking at some guides. has like 200 hundred dependencies :O.
:/ I wish I had doen a -y now.
Fortunately I have a DSI with Layton, a bunch of podcasts. Maybe I'll just hole up for the night.
 
mrkgoo said:
- Was seconds always an option for the clock?

Yes.


Oh and.

mrkgoo said:
Fortunately I have a DSI with Layton, a bunch of podcasts. Maybe I'll just hole up for the night. Actually come to think of it, who cares about Layton I should play The World Ends With You instead.

Fixed.

Anyway, ugh I still haven't received an email and it still says it can't find my order.

:(
 

pj

Banned
Mar_ said:
Oh shi... Really? The stuff in the menu bar no longer works or just certain parts of the program?


Nothing shows up in the menu bar and when I try to turn anything on it says "iStat menus could not load the <x> extra"
 

mrkgoo

Member
Mar_ said:
Oh shi... Really? The stuff in the menu bar no longer works or just certain parts of the program?

It's on the SL incompatibility list. Should be a fix coming soon. I use the dashboard widget, which is stil going strong.
 

Animal

Banned
Guys, I just realized that I was scrolling through an animated gif heavy thread and Safari was silky smooth.


I have been waiting for this day for a very long time.

EDIT: This is relevant because it happened after installing SL.
 

celebi23

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Finally the internet is back :lol This fucking storm knocked out my internet for a couple of hours :lol . I bought the Family Pack & I'm backing up my laptop via Carbon Copy Cloner. They just released a Snow Leopard-compatible beta within the last week to boot :D About half-way done backing up. Haven't done a clean install since Leopard came out :lol It's about time I started from scratch (with a little help from Migration Assistant of course :lol )

Oh, I also added another review in the OP.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
mrkgoo said:
YEah, I was just looking at some guides. has like 200 hundred dependencies :O.
:/ I wish I had doen a -y now.
Fortunately I have a DSI with Layton, a bunch of podcasts. Maybe I'll just hole up for the night.
Haha, and I was just talking about compiling something like X or Firefox, compiling a whole dependency tree from scratch takes that much longer. :lol
 

HUELEN10

Member
I finally found my USB male extender! YES!

Need to do some iTunes deauthorizing, and need to back up like 60 more gigs, but I should be installing soon!

Do you think I should use this time to install an internal SD card reader? For those that clean-installed, how long did it take ya?
 

LCfiner

Member
another nicely upgraded feature in the OS is the Image capture tool.

I can now use it to scan from my wifi scanner, instead of having to use the Canon software, plus it can detect multiple items so it will automatically set boundaries for multiple photos I place on the plate and save separate images for them automatically in the pictures folder.

I used to have to crop and cut multiple photos manually before.

very nice.
 
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