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Official Mac OS X Snow Leopard thread of Shipping 8/28!!

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Crab Shaker

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Snow Leopard is awesome. Can't wait for third party apps to start getting streamlined and go 64-bit. Especially slow ass shit like Adobe AIR stuff.
 

HUELEN10

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I love tweaking the OS with simple terminal commands. Got the look almost the way I like it, I just have to change how tabs work in safari.
 

Killthee

helped a brotha out on multiple separate occasions!
_leech_ said:
Is there any way to make OSX lock after a certain period of time without having to start the screen saver?
I believe turning on Display Sleep (System Preferences -> Energy Saver) will lock the screen after a certain period of inactivity.
 
Killthee said:
I believe turning on Display Sleep (System Preferences -> Energy Saver) will lock the screen after a certain period of inactivity.

If you want it to "lock" after sleep/screen saver so that you have to enter your password to get back to your desktop, go to the Security preference pane.
 

mrkgoo

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Scorcho: Thanks, I figured that. I was compiling, and my software didn;t run due to some python interpreter version mismatch or something, and someone suggested possible issue in 64-bit vs 32-bit. I don't know much about these things, though. I just thought I'd try the 64-bit kernel to see if it did anything to my issue,a nod I thought I'd ask in general.



Does anyone else use Hibernatemode = 0?

For the uninitiated, there are three main hibernate modes (plus two if you count the secure versions):

0 = the original mode in macs pre-2005. When your computer went to sleep, it was instant, and wake was instant. RAM is powered during sleep to retain contents.

1 = RAM contents written to HDD at sleep, then powers down. Slow to wake.

3 = default mode (I think) for new macs. Writes out RAM contents to a sleepimage, and keeps RAM powered for fast wake.

I use 0, and not 3 because I then don't have to wait for the 30 seconds or so for it to write out RAM contents to disc - I always worry about moving the HD too much while writing, and closing my MBP and just picking it up and running doesn't sound like a great thing to me.

The main point of writing out to a sleepimage is that if you lose power entirely while it is asleep, when you turn it back on, it will pick up where it left off. I don't get this, obviously, but I try not to let it power out often.

An added advantage with keeping hibernate mode to 0 (besides not having to wait for it to sleep), is that you recover the sleepimage space (after deleting the image). Free 4GB!

I was just wondering if this all still applied in Snow Leopard.

My hibernate mode is still 0 and I get the fast sleep.

http://www.macworld.com/article/53471/2006/10/sleepmode.html
 

Futureman

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quick question.

I did the terminal hack w/ Leopard to make the bottom dock non-3D. Do I have to do this again or something, or will that carry over to Snow Leopard?
 

Sanjuro

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giga said:
Remove the F9 keyboard shortcut in expose prefs first. Assign F9 in LCC. Put F9 back in expose prefs.
I tried that to no success. I don't know if it means anything but the pictures you posted are a little different than the one on my computer. On mine it isn't called "Hidden Thumb Button". I did find a fix, I had to map the buttons to F5 and F6 which are pretty much useless anyway on my end...I just hope Logitech releases a new update soon.

I'm going to give Safari another full time shot. Firefox is better in practically every way but I do love the "instant" loading in Safari especially on forum use as I'm always constantly Paging Down to get to the newest post. My main problems with Safari,

1. It never opens new links in tabs to often. I need to hold down the command button which I don't like doing. I remember a work around for this but then it wouldn't open specific things which require a new window in a new window. M

2. I like Firefox's download manager better and the ability for it to open in certain programs.
 
HUELEN10 said:
I love tweaking the OS with simple terminal commands. Got the look almost the way I like it, I just have to change how tabs work in safari.

Give us some tips, some have no ideas!

Also the tabs in Safari are terrible in comparison to the way they act in FF. Whenever I click external links it opens in new windows (probably a setting), when I double finger click (to right click) it highlights the link which stays highlighted even after opening in a new tab.

Altogether I think that Safari is too keyboard heavy. I like FF for simple things like being able to custom a whole lot of things I can't do in SF. Maybe I need to look for add ons
 

LCfiner

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pj325is said:
I use smart sleep which changes the mode depending on how much battery is left.

hey that is pretty neat. thanks to you and mrkgoo, now I know a bit more about Mac sleep states. I always wondered why the pulsating sleep light would take some time to turn on after closing the lid. now I know.

and, yeah, I prefer the straight sleep, no hibernate option. faster sleep, no HDD access while moving.
 

Jasoco

Banned
LCfiner said:
pretty sure that's been in for a while.

edit: another incompatibility report.

iClip 4.0. can't adjust any settings and menu bar button flakes out and freezes sometimes. does not inspire confidence. hasn't been updated in years, I doubt it will now. will start testing out replacements for clipboard collectors.
PTHPasteBoard has worked with no problems through every single OS X update I've ever thrown at it. It's my number 1 "Can't live without this damn app" app. (DragThing is second, and was just updated too.)

Blu_LED said:
Yeah I love it to, I just wish there was some sort of indication to tell you that you have something minimized.
This. It's all I need in order to switch to it. An indication that doesn't get in your face but reminds you there are windows down there.

Jel0man said:
highlight-stacks.jpg


Is there a way to make these icons smaller? And also, is there a way to set a general rule for the size of the icons in general:)?
Nope sadly. I like them big though, I'd rather make the bounding box bigger really.

Also, WHY DON'T THEY MOVE that "Open in Finder" button to the top of the window so we can click it without having to scroll to the bottom of the list? WTF? The right side is unused. Put it up there like the Back button. Sheesh! It's common sense, Apple!

HUELEN10 said:
Whoa, is it just me, or are external disks recognized much faster? It has to be at least 3 seconds, no way in hell this is a placebo effect, at least I don't think so. Anyone care to comment on this?
One of the many "non-existent features" they have been talking about. Disk mounting is completely redone. Faster mounting and ejecting as well as indication that the drive is ejecting.
 

Sean

Banned
While I realize this is a longshot, has anyone installed or read reports of Snow Leopards performance on an older Mac with 1GB RAM?

My father is still running Tiger on a 2006 Mac Mini (the first Intel ones, 1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo with 1GB RAM, or it might even be 512mb) and he wants me to "upgrade" him to Snow Leopard. But I'm worried that it would be a downgrade in performance since SL requires 1GB RAM.
 

Jasoco

Banned
Sean said:
While I realize this is a longshot, has anyone installed or read reports of Snow Leopards performance on an older Mac with 1GB RAM?

My father is still running Tiger on a 2006 Mac Mini (the first Intel ones, 1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo with 1GB RAM, or it might even be 512mb) and he wants me to "upgrade" him to Snow Leopard. But I'm worried that it would be a downgrade in performance since SL requires 1GB RAM.
RAM is cheap as beer these days. But I don't think any of the Intel mini's came with less than 1GB of RAM since the original G4's came with 512 and were replaced in a few months with a minimum of 1GB.
 

LCfiner

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Jasoco said:
PTHPasteBoard has worked with no problems through every single OS X update I've ever thrown at it. It's my number 1 "Can't live without this damn app" app. (DragThing is second, and was just updated too.)


this was funny. from their website:

PTHPasteboard is no longer available for sale because of Snow Leopard issues.

You can still download it here.

I take it you're running it now with no issues? I downloaded it and will give it a test run over the next couple days.

edit: OK, I had to drag in the prefpane manually to the folder to install it but it seems to be working like a champ right now.

thanks for the suggestion
 

Sean

Banned
Jasoco said:
RAM is cheap as beer these days. But I don't think any of the Intel mini's came with less than 1GB of RAM since the original G4's came with 512 and were replaced in a few months with a minimum of 1GB.

I know RAM is dirt cheap but I'm not really comfortable with using a putty knife and all that deconstruction of a mini just to install it. I can do it on the laptops and iMac's but the mini has always scared me when I saw the disassembly instructions :lol
 
Mine showed up today! Definitely not a lot of visual changes, but everything seems a little 'snappier'

One thing I can't work out. I thought there was an iPhone like auto text-correction? I tried purposely entering incorrect text into Mail, but nothing happened. Does this feature need to be enabled?
 
Does anyone know if NTFS-3G for Mac works under Snow Leopard? Its not up on the wiki and I spent some time searching on the web but couldn't find anything.

My external drives are partitioned using NTFS for Windows + Mac compatibility so I can't update to Snow Leopard until there is a solid NTFS write solution.
 

Jasoco

Banned
Sean said:
I know RAM is dirt cheap but I'm not really comfortable with using a putty knife and all that deconstruction of a mini just to install it. I can do it on the laptops and iMac's but the mini has always scared me when I saw the disassembly instructions :lol
It's easy. The case is designed to take the pressure. And the RAM is right there inside.

If not, just get a friend to do it. Or take it to an Apple Store and pay their prices.

SL should run fine on 1GB though. But I would definitely upgrade.
 

LCfiner

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Blindfutur3 said:
Mine showed up today! Definitely not a lot of visual changes, but everything seems a little 'snappier'

One thing I can't work out. I thought there was an iPhone like auto text-correction? I tried purposely entering incorrect text into Mail, but nothing happened. Does this feature need to be enabled?


yup. try opening up a new mail message then enable all the type autocorrections options under the Edit Menu/ Substitutions. you can disable some substitutions like smart quotes from this menu item

you can add custom changes and expansions to the languages and text preference pane.
 

giga

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Pretty sure spelling corrections only happen in TextEdit. The text replacement in the Mail menus only corrects what's in the Language prefpane.

Edit: Nevermind. I had to change it to correct spelling automatically
 
LCfiner said:
yup. try opening up a new mail message then enable all the type autocorrections options under the Edit Menu/ Substitutions. you can disable some substitutions like smart quotes from this menu item

you can add custom changes and expansions to the languages and text preference pane.

Thanks. Got it working now. Pretty nice little feature. Is it a system wide feature or just Mail?
 

Jasoco

Banned
giga said:
Pretty sure spelling corrections only happen in TextEdit. The text replacement in the Mail menus only corrects what's in the Language prefpane.
I'm assuming it is available to any programmer who chooses to use it. So I am hoping BareBones rolls it into TextWrangler/BBEdit and Mozilla somehow gets it into Firefox before the turn of the century.
 

giga

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Jasoco said:
I'm assuming it is available to any programmer who chooses to use it. So I am hoping BareBones rolls it into TextWrangler/BBEdit and Mozilla somehow gets it into Firefox before the turn of the century.
It should be available in any Cocoa text input field. Right click on a field and checkmark Correct Spelling Automatically. As well as the Substitutions stuff like Smart Quotes/Dashes/etc.
 

Jasoco

Banned
giga said:
It should be available in any Cocoa text input field. Right click on a field and checkmark Correct Spelling Automatically. As well as the Substitutions stuff like Smart Quotes/Dashes/etc.
BareBones and Mozilla, like Microsoft, prefer to use their own custom controls. BBEdit/TextWrangler uses a specially designed text area for its editing. Not a stock Cocoa control. Plus apparently TextWrangler is still Carbon.
 

dream

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Sean said:
While I realize this is a longshot, has anyone installed or read reports of Snow Leopards performance on an older Mac with 1GB RAM?

My father is still running Tiger on a 2006 Mac Mini (the first Intel ones, 1.66 GHz Intel Core Duo with 1GB RAM, or it might even be 512mb) and he wants me to "upgrade" him to Snow Leopard. But I'm worried that it would be a downgrade in performance since SL requires 1GB RAM.

If it is, in fact, one of the 512MB models, Snow Leopard won't even install. I know this because I tried upgrading my 512MB Mac Mini that I use for boxee and the installer just laughed at me. :(
 

celebi23

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Futureman said:
quick question.

I did the terminal hack w/ Leopard to make the bottom dock non-3D. Do I have to do this again or something, or will that carry over to Snow Leopard?

I did the same thing & it carried over no problem :D Loving Snow Leopard so far. Still going through all of my apps to see if there is an update for them. About half way done.
 

LCfiner

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looks like the text substitution needs to be enabled for each independent cocoa text field within an app

example:

For Things, I have to enable it for the "New Todo" item in the application window by right-clicking on text and selecting the substitutions I want to enable.

BUT, I have to do this again when entering text in the Things quick entry field (ctrl-space) that I bring up system wide.
 

mrkgoo

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giga said:
It should be available in any Cocoa text input field. Right click on a field and checkmark Correct Spelling Automatically. As well as the Substitutions stuff like Smart Quotes/Dashes/etc.

Does this mean we will get ever so slightly better posts in GAF?

Less typos, perhaps some people will even go back and fix their grammar. Well, look at that, it just changed my grammer to grammar. I know how it was spelt I just wanted to check. Also, I forgot a comma after my "well".


Yay, SL!
 

C Jones

Member
pj325is said:
Around 3 C or 5.5 F

It never used to hit 50 while I was just browsing the web, but it hits 50 and 51 quite frequently now. It also feels a bit warmer on my lap.

Temps seem to be settling back down to what they used to be.. Maybe something was going on in the background
Has it cooled down or are you still noticing that it's generally warmer than it used to be? Anyone else experiencing this? My Macbook is definitely warmer than it used to be, even when I'm just browsing.
 

rex64

Banned
Sean said:
I know RAM is dirt cheap but I'm not really comfortable with using a putty knife and all that deconstruction of a mini just to install it. I can do it on the laptops and iMac's but the mini has always scared me when I saw the disassembly instructions :lol

Just ask a friend
 
For you guys who don't like the purple/blue outline around the Expose windows I may have an answer. I was digging around and found the resources it.

2ag2gle.jpg


2qav6mc.jpg


It should probably be pretty easy to swap these out with something that looks a little better. I haven't bothered to make a new outline/border yet, but I will eventually. I'd like to see someone take a crack at this first though :lol
 

panda21

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is there any way of scrolling using the mouse without using the wheel? mine is being a dick. specifically in safari but the finder would be nice as well

i'm guessing if theres a safari plugin it doesnt work on snowleopard
 
I know it doesn't mean too much. I was just curious after installing, so I ran another Geekbench test and thought I'd throw up the results. Both test were done with no applications open after a reboot.
 

LCfiner

Member
It might not be as cool as multiclutch but I wanted to let people know that xGestures has been updated to v 1.74 and now supports Snow Leopard properly.

it definitely works better with a mouse than a trackpad but you can still have it used with 2 button click drag commands on the trackpad or with some modifier keys to regain some semblance of multiclutch functionality on the pad.

http://alum.hampshire.edu/~bjk02/xGestures/download.htm


keep rocking that tilde in the web address, homeslice!
 

Jasoco

Banned
Mad Hatter said:
For you guys who don't like the purple/blue outline around the Expose windows I may have an answer. I was digging around and found the resources it.

2ag2gle.jpg


2qav6mc.jpg


It should probably be pretty easy to swap these out with something that looks a little better. I haven't bothered to make a new outline/border yet, but I will eventually. I'd like to see someone take a crack at this first though :lol
http://macthemes2.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16798576
http://macthemes2.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16798587
http://macthemes2.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16798577

Many already have. You are correct. Those are the files.

You people really need to lurk around MacThemes2.net more often. Everything's been done.
 

Sanjuro

Member
Only other thing I have noticed that probably has no relation to SL is that my Transmission speeds are drastically slower. I don't know what happened. =(
 
Mad Hatter said:
For you guys who don't like the purple/blue outline around the Expose windows I may have an answer. I was digging around and found the resources it.

2ag2gle.jpg


2qav6mc.jpg


It should probably be pretty easy to swap these out with something that looks a little better. I haven't bothered to make a new outline/border yet, but I will eventually. I'd like to see someone take a crack at this first though :lol


i can confirm it works exactly like you think it would. i just changed the color through photoshop
 

Ashhong

Member
so ive been trying to setup my external HDD but i cant seem to restore the image to it. its currently in FAT32 format, but wen i try to make it into Mac OS Extended it becomes unmounted and doesnt seem to work at all. ideas?
 

Jasoco

Banned
When I get back in the game (My MacBook with SL is dying so I am sing it lightly while using this old G4 mini with Leopard as my browsing machine... so sloooooow) I will be customizing the hell out of all the resources Apple allows. The dock background (I use the 2D look), the Exposé selections, the Grid Stacks border....

Gotta buy an Intel mini first though. Then it's just a quick swap of my MB's 500GB HD into the mini (Providing I can figure out how to remove the optical drive this time) and I'm back with full speed Snow Leopard requiring no cloning or copying at all.
 
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