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Official Mac OS X Snow Leopard thread of Shipping 8/28!!

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btkadams

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im a little curious. i just installed snow leopard on my macbook pro from early 2008. i didn't see where it would really say whether it was installing 32-bit or 64-bit. be nice, i don't know much about this sort of thing. what exactly am i running?
 

mrkgoo

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btkadams said:
im a little curious. i just installed snow leopard on my macbook pro from early 2008. i didn't see where it would really say whether it was installing 32-bit or 64-bit. be nice, i don't know much about this sort of thing. what exactly am i running?

The default kernel is 32-bit. Nearly all first party apps are 64-bit.

You can boot into 64-bit kernel by holding down '6' and '4' at boot, but since not all third party extensions are 64-bit, these could break.

Open activity monitor and activate the 'kind' column - that will show you all processes that are running and which ones are 64-bit.

You'll notice the first task (0) is the kernel, and it will be non-64bit.

There is no option to 'install' either (or not to).
 

Jasoco

Banned
shidoshi said:
Except, unfortunately, THIS was the superior and indispensable Spotlight:

tigerspotlight2.jpg


Seriously, I think one of the biggest moments of making something awesome and then screwing it up that Apple has done in recent memory was making that style of search results and then killing them. I understand why the way those results were given to the user was broken, but fine - build that shit into the Finder. Search results now are nowhere near as useful or organized as they were in 10.4.
Ugh. I agree! This was my favorite Spotlight view! They made a huge deal out of it. Then Leopard came out and castrated Spotlight's UI and they replaced Groups view with the horribly overhyped USELESS AS HELL CoverFlow view.

Yeah, I said it. CoverFlow is USELESS IN THE FINDER. I never use it because it is much MUCH more useful to set the folder to Icon view and make the icons big with previews.

Steve, in 10.7, let's get rid of CoverFlow view in the Finder (At least in SpotLight) and bring back Groups, please!?

How can anyone find this:
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More useful than this:
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??

If you make the CoverFlow view large to see the images better, you get less space at the bottom, and see less files on the left and right, not that it matters because you can't see them anyway when they're covering the others. Also, if it's not square, forget it. Wasted space city.

But in Icon View, I can see many many images at once at the correct proportion up to 512 pixels in size, and at the size I have them now, the window is the same size as it was in CoverFlow view and you can still see more files!

CoverFlow should go back where it came from. It's only useful in iTunes. And even then it's JUST EYE CANDY.
 

LCfiner

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Coverflow only really made sense on the iPhone. Because you are physically moving your finger over the albums and flipping them around.

in every other instance on the Mac it simply adds clutter and is not as useful as icon view for use in the finder.

I guess that why I liked the grid view added in itunes 8. just wish it wasn’t so sluggish.
 

Jasoco

Banned
I'd use Grid view in iTunes more if it made more sense. I have albums with multiple songs. I don't want to view by album. I want to see all my songs.

So I keep CoverFlow open in iTunes to give me something pretty to look at. Because that's all it is, and all it ever was when the guy who made it made it. But Apple passes it off as the newest craze in User Interfacing.

STOP IT, STEVE! IT'S NOT THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD AND JESUS!
 

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Jasoco said:
I'd use Grid view in iTunes more if it made more sense. I have albums with multiple songs. I don't want to view by album. I want to see all my songs.

So I keep CoverFlow open in iTunes to give me something pretty to look at. Because that's all it is, and all it ever was when the guy who made it made it. But Apple passes it off as the newest craze in User Interfacing.

STOP IT, STEVE! IT'S NOT THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD AND JESUS!
Drives me nuts that my iPhone goes into Coverflow mode when put in horizontal orientation.

...no, I don't want to flick through my albums (which are in alphabetical order by artist, despite being albums I'm looking at), I just want to pick my songs like I normally do.
 
I have my first snow leopard incompatibility problem. *alarm goes off* In my computer art class' lab their imacs connect to a server through an applescript. I bring my laptop to class so I use that, the only problem is that the applescript they use was written for power pc! I looked it up and I read that I can't edit the script if it's been saved as an application.

Does anyone know how i'd be able to open it up and edit it? Maybe rewrite it?
 

Jasoco

Banned
I cannot STAND Path Finder. It's too overloaded with bloat and doesn't work anywhere near how I want it to.

I'll stick with the Finder. Also, I trust using Path Finder as a Finder replacement as much as I trust renaming DragThing to Dock and placing it in CoreServices. It just does not work with OS integration.
 

Sean

Banned
layzie1989 said:
I have my first snow leopard incompatibility problem. *alarm goes off* In my computer art class' lab their imacs connect to a server through an applescript. I bring my laptop to class so I use that, the only problem is that the applescript they use was written for power pc! I looked it up and I read that I can't edit the script if it's been saved as an application.

Does anyone know how i'd be able to open it up and edit it? Maybe rewrite it?

Try opening Script Editor and dragging the app onto it's dock icon, if that doesn't work try right clicking on the script app and "Show Package Contents" and look through the files to see if there is an Applescript you can edit.

Other than that I have no idea.
 
My MacBook won't read y snow leopard installation disc. It'll read and play DVD movies, but it keeps spitting out my snow leopard disc.

I know it works too cause I had used it earlier on my computer.

Any ideas?
 
Sean said:
Try opening Script Editor and dragging the app onto it's dock icon, if that doesn't work try right clicking on the script app and "Show Package Contents" and look through the files to see if there is an Applescript you can edit.

Other than that I have no idea.

Did both of those already. There is no "Show Package Contents", and when I drop it into the script editor, I get this:

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Killthee

helped a brotha out on multiple separate occasions!
layzie1989 said:
I'd use it if I could easily remove the finder icon, and then change the pathfinder icon to the finder icon
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They added a "enable finder remove from dock" option a couple of weeks ago that lets you remove the icon by right clicking it. It doesn't stick after reboot though, but they have a applescript in their forums you can set to autostart so it removes it automatically after logging in.
 

Sanjuro

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Killthee said:
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They added a "enable finder remove from dock" option a couple of weeks ago that lets you remove the icon by right clicking it. It doesn't stick after reboot though, but they have a applescript in their forums you can set to autostart so it removes it automatically after logging in.
That's a pretty neat dock.
 

Maximus.

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just finished installing snow leopard. Installation went pretty smooth, but when i ejected the disk after install it said i was forcing an eject :S. I love how vibrant the screen is. Feels quicker too. Weird how on adium all my contacts pics disappeared, but im assuming it will be fine soon. Also love having the 3 and 4 finger swipe on my macbook pro now :D
 

Jasoco

Banned
I use Column view when I need to browse in place and don't want a bunch of windows left behind that I need to close again later. Either that or I actually use the single-window mode.

But for most folders I use list view or icon view depending on its contents.

Home, Documents, Library, Movies, Music, Pictures are all list view. Downloads is icon view. And any folders that have just images or movies are icon view.
 

mrkgoo

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Fraull said:
just finished installing snow leopard. Installation went pretty smooth, but when i ejected the disk after install it said i was forcing an eject :S. I love how vibrant the screen is. Feels quicker too. Weird how on adium all my contacts pics disappeared, but im assuming it will be fine soon. Also love having the 3 and 4 finger swipe on my macbook pro now :D

If you had a non-unibody pro, the 3 finger swipe was always there. It is cool though.

Jasoco said:
I use Column view when I need to browse in place and don't want a bunch of windows left behind that I need to close again later. Either that or I actually use the single-window mode.

But for most folders I use list view or icon view depending on its contents.

Home, Documents, Library, Movies, Music, Pictures are all list view. Downloads is icon view. And any folders that have just images or movies are icon view.

I pretty much exclusively use column view. I forgot it even had an icon view - man it's come a long way since I switched. I used to navigate around windows in icon view, and it seems so inefficient compared to columns.
 

Maximus.

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mrkgoo said:
If you had a non-unibody pro, the 3 finger swipe was always there.

:lol yea i realized that after i went into the preferences, i mistook 4 finger swipe sideways for a 3 finger swipe, dont know why. Anyways, i really like how fast safari is now, ive been only really using firefox, but im heavily considering using this now.

Quick question, anyone else notice that Growl is lagging a bit sometimes now?
 

Ashhong

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your screen is more vibrant? ugh, mine is more dull. fucking Apple, i LOVED the color on my new unibody. something is up with it now.
 

mrkgoo

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Ashhong said:
your screen is more vibrant? ugh, mine is more dull. fucking Apple, i LOVED the color on my new unibody. something is up with it now.

Make sure your default colour profile is selected (maybe click off it and back on).

System Preferences -> Display -> Color

If it's weird, try calibrating without eh default profile - turn off expert settings, use 2.2 gamma, and native (or 6500K) colour temperature.
 

Ashhong

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mrkgoo said:
Make sure your default colour profile is selected (maybe click off it and back on).

System Preferences -> Display -> Color

If it's weird, try calibrating without eh default profile - turn off expert settings, use 2.2 gamma, and native (or 6500K) colour temperature.

default profile sucks ass. i had a calibration file from the first day and made it amazing. i did check that and it still looks more dull. also made a new calibration file and still dull...think i have to mess with the settings some more. i use SuperCal

ah, using 3.0 Gamma makes it a little better. calibrating hurts my eyes :lol
 

mollipen

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Jasoco said:
Steve, in 10.7, let's get rid of CoverFlow view in the Finder (At least in SpotLight) and bring back Groups, please!?

Groups + Column view = win. But seriously, in any view, Groups would have been a far more worthwhile addition to the Finder than Cover Flow was. And think about being able to quickly pop up the right-hand column to get control over whatever you're looking at?

And god did I love "Group by People" option.

I'd really, really love to know who it was in Apple that made the ass-backwards decision to get rid of those Spotlight results. If it was too much trouble to build them into the Finder, well, the Finder is desperately in need of a huge overhaul anyhow. And no, a coding re-write doesn't count.
 
Maybe I'm crazy, but I could have sworn I read on Apple's site that Snow Leopard added the extra multi-touch functions to older MBPs (ones that have multi-touch for scrolling, but not enlarging, etc.) I've installed, but I'm not seeing it.

Anyone know anything about this? Maybe I misunderstood.
 
megashock5 said:
Maybe I'm crazy, but I could have sworn I read on Apple's site that Snow Leopard added the extra multi-touch functions to older MBPs (ones that have multi-touch for scrolling, but not enlarging, etc.) I've installed, but I'm not seeing it.

Anyone know anything about this? Maybe I misunderstood.

Sometimes Apple likes to flatout lie.
 

panda21

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what was groups? i don't remember that

totally agree that coverflow is useles except on iphone.

i've been using xmonad too much and now i want some kind of vim/midnight commander like finder and a tiling window manager :lol the whole windows thing is a bit redundant these days now multitasking isnt a novelty imo
 

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megashock5 said:
Maybe I'm crazy, but I could have sworn I read on Apple's site that Snow Leopard added the extra multi-touch functions to older MBPs (ones that have multi-touch for scrolling, but not enlarging, etc.) I've installed, but I'm not seeing it.

Anyone know anything about this? Maybe I misunderstood.
If your touchpad could already do multi-touch gestures, then it now has access to the four finger swiping gestures that the unibodies have.

If all your touchpad could do was the two finger scrolling, you don't really have a multi-touch trackpad that would benefit from this update.
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
typo said:
Sometimes Apple likes to flatout lie.
Not in this case. Every laptop that supported three-finger multitouch, now supports four finger multitouch as well. Exactly as they said.
Laptops that supported only two finger multi, stay as they are.
 

Jasoco

Banned
Booo Onyx. Booo.

I've used Onyx forever. But it hadn't been updated for Snow Leopard, but it still launched. Every time. It had one bug, when you put the password in it would say it was invalid but it would still run fine.

Today I launched Onyx to do some cache cleaning like I do, and have many times on Snow Leopard as well as Leopard, and it says "New version available!"

So I think "Oh good! A SL finalized version!" And I download it. Of course the creator doesn't use Sparkle so it places the DMG in my root of the HD, even though I set it to go to the desktop. And I open it up and install it.

Launch it and what do I get? A dialog saying "This version is not compatible with your OS." and it quits.

WTF? The previous version worked fine with no problems AT ALL. I have tested it thoroughly and used it many times. The creator didn't even test the old version on SL, instead decided to hard-code a max version in?

I just want to clear my caches and all that cool stuff I used to do! *sigh* Guess I'll just restore the DMG from my backup clone and reinstall the previous one. But I can't even trust the update message anymore! So how can I tell when a SL version DOES come out?
 

LCfiner

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Heads up to PS3 owners that Medialink got updated to v2.0 alpha. it’s now a 64 bit pref pane and it works fine again with a few other features like transcoding that I haven’t tested.

free upgrade for 1.x owners.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Is anyone having issues with thumbnails not loading for video files? Mainly wmv files I'm having this issue with.
 
I'm looking for a nice tiny battery meter like SlimBattery, but one I can actually move. The apple default one is way too big. I was always wondering why it isn't included in iStats menu...
 

Ashhong

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Chamber said:
Is anyone having issues with thumbnails not loading for video files? Mainly wmv files I'm having this issue with.

in stacks? my assortment of wmv files seem to be fine but it took FOREVER for it to load them. it took over 10 seconds at least just for the first icon to load. then reentering the stacks only 5 seconds later and they have to reload again. im sorry but i cannot stand this icon loading time. sucks so much

and the battery icon is pretty damn small already...how small do you want it? oic, you want a vertical one so it takes less horizontal space. picky picky
 

NekoFever

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LCfiner said:
Heads up to PS3 owners that Medialink got updated to v2.0 alpha. it’s now a 64 bit pref pane and it works fine again with a few other features like transcoding that I haven’t tested.

free upgrade for 1.x owners.
Awesome. Now as soon as Connect360 gets updated that'll be all my third-party preference panes running 64-bit.
 

kaskade

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I installed Windows 7 using bootcamp and it was a pretty pain free process. I'm going to see how Crysis run on my Macbook Pro now.
 

mrkgoo

Member
OMG OMG OMG, September 9 is coming up. i know this isn't related to Snow Leopard, but I had to grab the nearest Mac thread at hand.

I have to say, I'm much more excited about a potential iTunes 9 than any of the iPods (unless they have OLED).
 

Slurpy

*drowns in jizz*
Nice to know that iChat AV is still complete shit under Snow Leopard. I've tried the video/audio chat from several computers, to several computers, under different connections, all running snow leopard. The MAJORITY of the time, there would be a 'communication error' that would either prevent any connection, or it would drop out a few seconds/minutes later with the same message, never to connect again.

Under these same computers, skype, and gmail video chat work perfectly, without a hitch, EVERY TIME. So tell me- why, when iChat is made by Apple, running on an OS by Apple, on Apple hardware, can't they get it right? What is it that Skype developers have figured out, or any other video chat program for that matter, that Apple couldn't with iChat? It sucks, because the few times it does work, it has some very slick video features (iChat theatre, screen sharing, etc). I shouldn't have to fuck around with firewall settings to get iChat to work, when I dont have to do so with any other program. What a frustrating experience, and unfortunately shows some major incompetence on Apple's part. You shouldn't need to be running under an extremely specific set of circumstances, along with your partner, to get video/audio to work.
 
LCfiner said:
Heads up to PS3 owners that Medialink got updated to v2.0 alpha. it’s now a 64 bit pref pane and it works fine again with a few other features like transcoding that I haven’t tested.

free upgrade for 1.x owners.

Yeah I fond this out this morning. I checked all my programs for updates and this made my day!
 

NekoFever

Member
mrkgoo said:
OMG OMG OMG, September 9 is coming up. i know this isn't related to Snow Leopard, but I had to grab the nearest Mac thread at hand.

I have to say, I'm much more excited about a potential iTunes 9 than any of the iPods (unless they have OLED).
Could be some cool stuff at the event. 64-bit iTunes 9? Beatles on iTunes? iPhone 3.1? New iPods? More potential stuff than most of the music events that Apple runs.
 

giga

Member
It’s best to not really set your expectations too high for iTunes, as you’ll likely be disappointed. Doubtful about a full 64-bit cocoa iTunes so close to 10.6's release.
 

SnakeXs

about the same metal capacity as a cucumber
BrandNew said:
iChat AV worked perfectly for me in the 3 or 4 times I've done it since I installed SL.

Yeah I've never ever had any iChat issues. *shrug*
 
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