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[mrkgoo]

So what do I need to know about upgrading to SL with regards to Fink and XCode?

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

angry five paragraph diatribe

:lol I'm going to start doing haikus.

Captain Picard gif
Facepalm forever frozen
A nightingale cries

 

[criesofthepast]

Pre-ordered my copy just now. Hopefully it ships on time.

 

[Slurpy]

I was irritated that Apple left aqua in when Leopard was released. Now, it's just beyond ridiculous. What sane UI person would believe that leaving in those fluorescent, striped, jellybeanish ass-ugly, outdated scrollbuttons and buttons that clash with every single window was a GOOD idea, or even acceptable? It seems fucking trivial for Apple to replace these outdated elements. Why not change them to those matte ones in the iLife suite, OS-wide? They've had ages to do that, the same eyesore they've had since Cheetah. Its inconsistent, and downright sloppy, since they look nothing like any of the UI elements Apple has designed in the past few years. They're a complete eyesore. You'd think this would have been a part of 'optimizing' Leopard. I shouldnt have to install a hack to replace them.

 

[movie_club]

k i just signed up for the up to date program. It says that it will ship aug 28th...i leave for school the third...think i will get it in time?

 

[Maximus.]

holy fuck yes APPLE! This is awesome, cant wait for faster OS goodness Does anyone know if this will make apps such as adium unusable (until a patch or something?)?, sorry if answered/dumb question, im on a break at work dont have a chance at the moment to read all of this .

 

[Omikaru]

Just pre-ordered along with a much needed RAM upgrade for my MacBook (from 1gb to 4gb). Can't wait!!

 

[panda21]

afaik almost everything still works, it just runs 32bit. and i imagine there will be lots of new versions built in 64bit on friday anyway...

 

[Keylime]

Just pre-ordered along with a much needed RAM upgrade for my MacBook (from 1gb to 4gb). Can't wait!!

Please tell me you got that RAM from somewhere other than Apple!

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

What's the deal with this 1password thing? What does it entail?

 

[Omikaru]

Please tell me you got that RAM from somewhere other than Apple!

Oh yes, for sure. I build my own PCs (I just happen to like having a Mac as a laptop with a PC combo), so I know the score with RAM and HDDs when it comes to Macs. :lol

 

[infiniteloop]

What's the deal with this 1password thing? What does it entail?

I'm pissed you have to buy the new version for Snow Leopard support.

 

[SnakeXs]

What's the deal with this 1password thing? What does it entail?

I'd explain, but the vidcasts they have at their site will probably explain it better. I was happy enough with keychain and how Safari autofills things, but this is one step further, and the iPhone app syncs everything which is very sweet.

 

[Slurpy]

holy fuck yes APPLE! This is awesome, cant wait for faster OS goodness Does anyone know if this will make apps such as adium unusable (until a patch or something?)?, sorry if answered/dumb question, im on a break at work dont have a chance at the moment to read all of this .

Adium runs perfectly on SL for me.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

I'd explain, but the vidcasts they have at their site will probably explain it better. I was happy enough with keychain and how Safari autofills things, but this is one step further, and the iPhone app syncs everything which is very sweet.

just went to the site

...



holy shit. Me want. So the problem people were having is that you have to get the new version once Snow Leopard comes out...or something along the lines of SL Safari not working with it?

 

[SnakeXs]

just went to the site

...



holy shit. Me want. So the problem people were having is that you have to get the new version once Snow Leopard comes out...or something along the lines of SL Safari not working with it?

Just going on what people have said in the thread since I too was clueless, 64 bit Safari won't work with it, and they're testing a new version. If they're going to charge for it, I don't know. We'll see.

Also, 1password imports everything from whatever browser you already use, and works across browsers (and other apps).

 

[midwestern_stylings]

WOOOOOOOO just ordered my copy with the update program for £7.95 and free shipping! YAY

 

[Burger]

So the $29 version is an 'Upgrade Disc' ?

So if you have a blank HDD, would this disc refuse to install or would you have to validate with your Leopard disc, or can it only be used to upgrade an existing copy of Leopard ?

 

[MaizeRage25]

Pre-ordered.

Between this and the PS3 slim, quite an exciting week.

 

[Chris R]

Guess the local store that sells only mac stuff (NOT an Apple store) will have it in on the 28th yay for having it at 9am for sure

 

[koam]

For those having probs with the $10 version, i just got off the phone with apple, told me they're having issues that will hopefully be fixed tomorrow. If you want it real bad you can fax their order form on their site to them.

 

[SnakeXs]

I forget what happened with Leopard... Does anyone know when the 24 hour Apple store in NYC starts selling it? I'd imagine midnight, but I'd also imagine line ups, silly as that is...

And yeah, what's the deal with shirts?

 

[Futureman]

Apple is so sick. It's awesome to think that come Friday, my three year old iMac will run better than the day I bought it. APPLE ROCKS.

 

[scorcho]

Trying out the GM build and on the surface it's not that distinguishable from Leopard, even when booting the 64-bit kernel. 64-bit Safari is a beast though; it blasted through the sunscript JS benchmark in 351ms (!!!)

 

[DMczaf]

So Snow Leopard delivers on Aug 28th even with free shipping on Apple.com?

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

So Snow Leopard delivers on Aug 28th even with free shipping on Apple.com?

That's what it says.

 

[Burger]

Trying out the GM build and on the surface it's not that distinguishable from Leopard, even when booting the 64-bit kernel. 64-bit Safari is a beast though; it blasted through the sunscript JS benchmark in 351ms (!!!)

You don't need to boot with a 64-bit kernel to run 64-bit applications. You shouldn't need to boot into a 64-bit kernel unless you are a developer, really.

To quote myself:

The 32bit kernel is quite capable of spawning 64bit processes. If you want to run a 64 bit kernel you will need 64bit kernel extensions, and visa-versa for 32bit. Kext's are not interoperable between architectures.

Your mac will default to the 32bit kernel except if you are running an xserve. You must also have a 64bit EFI to load 64bit kernel, this limitation is imposed by Apple as it's not technically needed. 64bit kernel support is disabled for ALL MacBooks.

 

[DMczaf]

That's what it says.

I guess I got my answer, after ordering with free shipping they upgraded the order to Overnight after it processed.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

My shipping still says 5 day.

 

[celebi23]

My Up-to-Date order status finally updated from Ships: "September" to Ships: "By August 28th"

 

[Maximus.]

Adium runs perfectly on SL for me.

ah ok good to know thanks man

 

[giga]

Had a chat with an Apple Rep and she said that if you have a hard drive with no OS, you'll probably need to install 10.5 first before you can install 10.6 with the upgrade discs. Damn, let's see if it's the same for the up-to-date discs.

 

[Maximus.]

They're updating "Finder"? Thank God!



And outside of keeping your old files neither has a benefit over the other correct?

man everytime i read your posts in Mac threads, you always have to be sacrastic about something, as if what your saying there is a major flaw in OSX. Are you just extremely bored or something? Cmon man its getting old, well imo it is.

 

[Mar]

I'll walk downstairs on Friday and buy 2 copies. One for me and one for my wife. Looking forward to it for some odd reason (this is when you know you've been fully converted to Mac).

 

[LCfiner]

I'll walk downstairs on Friday and buy 2 copies. One for me and one for my wife. Looking forward to it for some odd reason (this is when you know you've been fully converted to Mac).

no family pack? you'll save 10 bucks.

do you need 2 physical discs?

 

[Jill Sandwich]

man everytime i read your posts in Mac threads, you always have to be sacrastic about something, as if what your saying there is a major flaw in OSX. Are you just extremely bored or something? Cmon man its getting old, well imo it is.

If there's an Apple thread, Flying_Phoenix and Liu Kang will pop up in it, bringing their own off-the-wall brand of comedy. All you can do is grab a hot dog and enjoy the show!

 

[celebi23]

I'll walk downstairs on Friday and buy 2 copies. One for me and one for my wife. Looking forward to it for some odd reason (this is when you know you've been fully converted to Mac).

no family pack? you'll save 10 bucks.

do you need 2 physical discs?

Ditto on the Family Pack suggestion. You can install it on up to 5 computers

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC224Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDAzOA&mco=NzgxMTY4NQ

Oh & congrats on fully converting to Mac I personally have been a Mac user since 1992/1993. My elementary school had Macs in the Computer Lab. This was before Windows completely took over the world :lol

 

[SnakeXs]

If there's an Apple thread, Flying_Phoenix and Liu Kang will pop up in it, bringing their own off-the-wall brand of comedy. All you can do is grab a hot dog and enjoy the show!

Well you're halfway right.

 

[ascii42]

I guess, but I still call bullshit



I really don't think you got the point of my post.




I was saying the concept of only being able to use an OS for one computer.

Let's just drop this subject so we don't derail the thread.



Awesome, thanks Liu Kang. I just have one more question though. If I close Safari and open it back up again, will it load the previous pages I was viewing (much like Camino)?

Because this is the only thing holding me toward Camino now.

I think part of the problem with your analogy is that you can't watch the same disc on two different players at the same time, however, when your computers will both have the OS at the same time.

On topic. I'm still using my PowerMac G5 from 2005, so I'll be missing this upgrade.

 

[Pctx]

I'm for stopping by the Apple store on Friday to just pick up a copy.

 

[Firestorm]

Meh. Ordered $35 CAD version. Came to just under $40 after tax.

 

[Mar]

no family pack? you'll save 10 bucks.

do you need 2 physical discs?

I'd certainly prefer to have my own boxed copy. I'm sure my wife would feel the same.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

If there's an Apple thread, Flying_Phoenix and Liu Kang will pop up in it, bringing their own off-the-wall brand of comedy. All you can do is grab a hot dog and enjoy the show!

Phoenix is annoying, Liu Kang is not.

 

[Buckethead]

My friend is finally updating (from Tiger). It's like he's been living in the dark ages. I'm so excited for him.

 

[Juice]

I didn't even think of starting an official thread for this. My days at GAF must be numbered.

Looking forward to figuring out a way to obtain and install Snow Leopard on my family's 7 Macs before, during, and after my brother's wedding this weekend.

...

I should just go ahead and check myself in now.

Phoenix is annoying, Liu Kang is not.

*ahem* Phoenix != Flying_Phoenix

Phoenix is awesome.

 

[Juice]

I was irritated that Apple left aqua in when Leopard was released. Now, it's just beyond ridiculous. What sane UI person would believe that leaving in those fluorescent, striped, jellybeanish ass-ugly, outdated scrollbuttons and buttons that clash with every single window was a GOOD idea, or even acceptable? It seems fucking trivial for Apple to replace these outdated elements. Why not change them to those matte ones in the iLife suite, OS-wide? They've had ages to do that, the same eyesore they've had since Cheetah. Its inconsistent, and downright sloppy, since they look nothing like any of the UI elements Apple has designed in the past few years. They're a complete eyesore. You'd think this would have been a part of 'optimizing' Leopard. I shouldnt have to install a hack to replace them.

:lol, at first I didn't understand what you were talking about, then I remembered that I used a hack to modify my install's theme and iTunes-ify all the Aqua scrollbars and buttons on my install.

 

[StrikerObi]

I was just reading the Tech Specs and my MacBook (early January 2008, the last revision before the unibody MacBooks) won't support hardware acceleration of h.264 in QuickTime X and it also won't support Open CL. I have an Intel X3100 graphics chip in this Mac and you need at least an nVidia 9400M

 

[Burger]

I was just reading the Tech Specs and my MacBook (early January 2008, the last revision before the unibody MacBooks) won't support hardware acceleration of h.264 in QuickTime X and it also won't support Open CL. I have an Intel X3100 graphics chip in this Mac and you need at least an nVidia 9400M

I'm in the same boat, but when I think about it I don't give a shit. My MBP can render 1080p h264 video fine, and I'm not interested in OpenCL.

Besides, my media center (which is a Windows 7 machine) outperforms my mac anyway.

Do you have problems running non accelerated video at the moment ? If not I wouldn't worry. Open CL sounds cool, but I haven't seen a single useful application for it yet (and don't mention video encoding, the only public Open CL video encoder is a pile of crap).

 

[entremet]

I need a new internal HD for my Macbook. I only have 10 gigs lefts. 180 gigs goes by real fast. I would get SL day one, but I need to get a new HD first. Decision, decisions.

 

[StrikerObi]

I'm in the same boat, but when I think about it I don't give a shit. My MBP can render 1080p h264 video fine, and I'm not interested in OpenCL.

Besides, my media center (which is a Windows 7 machine) outperforms my mac anyway.

Do you have problems running non accelerated video at the moment ? If not I wouldn't worry. Open CL sounds cool, but I haven't seen a single useful application for it yet (and don't mention video encoding, the only public Open CL video encoder is a pile of crap).

I'm not that worried about it either. I don't even run 1080p video on this screen. It's overkill considering 720p fills the screen as is. I'm more bummed about Open CL but I don't run a lot of processor intensive apps. The only thing I would have liked it for is off-loading some work when stabilizing or rendering video in iMovie. That would have been sweet. Other than that I doubt I would have much use for Open CL.