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[timmy01]

for the record, 64-bit isn't "nothing" or "meaningless". Essentially 64-bit means that you can process data in up to 64-bits instead of just up to 32-bits. The most obvious place this benefit comes from is being able to address up to 64-bits of memory addressing. To do this your running kernel (not necessarily your boot kernel) needs to be operating in 64-bits. The AMD64 architecture allows for direct access to the x86 instruction set when running under the AMD64 instruction set, but for compatibility does NOT allow access to the AMD64 instructions or ops while running in x86 mode. So to access more than 4GB of RAM you need to be using a 64-bit kernel. The problem is while running under the AMD64 architecture while the systems can run 32-bit code under directed access all interfaces to the actual kernel have to be compiled under 64-bits. This means 64-bit drivers and even 64-bit libraries depending on what the library is doing or providing for.

The good news for Mac owners is that, AFAIK all Intel based Macs are 64-bit systems as the CoreDuo has had those extensions since the beginning (I believe). It would just seem that apple is taking a more modular approach to 64-bit than MS to not force through the growing pains that MS users had to go through during the (uggghh..) XP x64 days or even the maligned Vista x64 days which didn't finally stop sucking until last year. Instead Apple seems to be trying to make the trasition to 64-bit as smooth as possible, and thus it is taking a bit longer to do it.

But yes, you should all welcome 64-bit computing, and hope that Apple can get there as soon as possible with a full blown OS kernel and base system. The sooner computing moves away from 32-bit, the faster we can move towards high memory operations and much much much larger computing tasks in a mainstream environment.

 

[bionic77]

I personally would hold out as long as you can until USB 3.0, Core i7(etc.) architecture, and possibly blu-ray support is added. I couldn't imagine your Macbook Pro being terribly slow in speed.

Truth. I have a Core Duo MBP running on Tiger and I still feel it has enough pep to do anything I was other play a new computer game (which I don't play). It does chug a little big when opening iPhoto and when opening Word (not much more than any Mac though), but I am hoping for some speed improvements with the new iLife and OS.

 

[Cornballer]

Is anyone else having trouble getting the store link to qualify your computer? It recognizes my computer as purchased after 6/8/09, but when I go to check out it tells me that I don't have anything in my shopping cart. Not sure what the deal is.

yeah. same deal here. not sure what is going on. and the macbook i am trying to get this for was purchased in july.

:/

What's the best way for me to order if their online system isn't working? Should I just fax in the order form? That might take a bit longer, so I was wondering what other people are doing.

 

[Phobophile]

for the record, 64-bit isn't "nothing" or "meaningless". Essentially 64-bit means that you can process data in up to 64-bits instead of just up to 32-bits. The most obvious place this benefit comes from is being able to address up to 64-bits of memory addressing. To do this your running kernel (not necessarily your boot kernel) needs to be operating in 64-bits. The AMD64 architecture allows for direct access to the x86 instruction set when running under the AMD64 instruction set, but for compatibility does NOT allow access to the AMD64 instructions or ops while running in x86 mode. So to access more than 4GB of RAM you need to be using a 64-bit kernel. The problem is while running under the AMD64 architecture while the systems can run 32-bit code under directed access all interfaces to the actual kernel have to be compiled under 64-bits. This means 64-bit drivers and even 64-bit libraries depending on what the library is doing or providing for.

The good news for Mac owners is that, AFAIK all Intel based Macs are 64-bit systems as the CoreDuo has had those extensions since the beginning (I believe). It would just seem that apple is taking a more modular approach to 64-bit than MS to not force through the growing pains that MS users had to go through during the (uggghh..) XP x64 days or even the maligned Vista x64 days which didn't finally stop sucking until last year. Instead Apple seems to be trying to make the trasition to 64-bit as smooth as possible, and thus it is taking a bit longer to do it.

But yes, you should all welcome 64-bit computing, and hope that Apple can get there as soon as possible with a full blown OS kernel and base system. The sooner computing moves away from 32-bit, the faster we can move towards high memory operations and much much much larger computing tasks in a mainstream environment.

About 6 years ago I remember hearing some of what 64-bit computing can do. They had America's Army running on 64-bit Linux straight from the CD, no install needed. And this was back when they only had the single-core Athlon 64s.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Then why the hell does my 10A432 have a 'welcome to leopard' user manual with absolutely no reference to snow leopard or any of its features? Has Apple become that sloppy?

What would "Welcome to Snow Leopard" say?

"Check out the brand new Finder. It looks exactly the same."

 

[Killthee]

The good news for Mac owners is that, AFAIK all Intel based Macs are 64-bit systems as the CoreDuo has had those extensions since the beginning (I believe).

First gen Intel Mac's used 32-bit processors. Core2Duo's are 64-bit, CoreDuo's were 32-bit.

 

[Firestorm]

First gen Intel Mac's used 32-bit processors. Core2Duo's are 64-bit, CoreDuo's were 32-bit.

Yep. My 2006 Toshiba Laptop uses a Core Duo (dual core, 32-bit) while my old desktop from 2003 uses an Athlon 64 (single core, 64-bit).

 

[Blackhead]

So what are the new features in Snow Leopard? I heard something about an antivirus... ?!

 

[Phobophile]

So what are the new features in Snow Leopard? I heard something about an antivirus... ?!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17269054&postcount=1

Jesus Christ, look at the OP.

 

[LCfiner]

So what are the new features in Snow Leopard? I heard something about an antivirus... ?!

read the OP for the new features. not gonna rehash them

and, yeah, there's some screenshots of SL telling the user that a downloaded dmg may harm the computer if opened. no one's sure what the deal is with it or to what extent the feature runs through the OS.

 

[Slurpy]

What would "Welcome to Snow Leopard" say?

"Check out the brand new Finder. It looks exactly the same."

Are you serious? Although not numerous, there ARE several new front end features for SL, including exchange, new expose, new quicktime, etc. It is a Leopard document, and makes no reference to any of the changes. Being as such, some of the information would be flat out wrong and outdated. It would be extremely sloppy if thats what was included on the retail DVD, and not an updated Snow Leopard Welcome document.

 

[Jasoco]

and, yeah, there's some screenshots of SL telling the user that a downloaded dmg may harm the computer if opened. no one's sure what the deal is with it or to what extent the feature runs through the OS.

I saw this a couple weeks ago. I wish I had emailed it to all the tech blogs then so I could be the one getting all the fame for finding this new "malware" detector.

I'd certainly prefer to have my own boxed copy. I'm sure my wife would feel the same.

Just buy the family pack. You're only going to install it once. It's not Windows, you won't be installing it all the time. Install it onto both computers then put it on a shelf and save yourself money. Unless you and your wife live in separate houses.

 

[mrkgoo]

I think SL is going to be one of the more important OS X releases for future development than most people realise. By cutting out PPC, and optimising everything towards a 64-bit architecture, it's ensuring that everyone moves forward. Of course the KEY factor in making all this happen is the $29 price point. Everyone WILL move forward. And when people do, developers will, and then everyone wins.

You can bet Apple are hoping for the adopt rate to be unprecedentedly high, and they will promote their numbers every step of the way.

 

[Futureman]

Are you serious? Although not numerous, there ARE several new front end features for SL, including exchange, new expose, new quicktime, etc. It is a Leopard document, and makes no reference to any of the changes. Being as such, some of the information would be flat out wrong and outdated. It would be extremely sloppy if thats what was included on the retail DVD, and not an updated Snow Leopard Welcome document.

dude settle down. Maybe it's because you don't have the retail DVD. Even though they are saying that your build is the gold master, there could still be changes like a updated PDF file.

 

[Slurpy]

dude settle down. Maybe it's because you don't have the retail DVD. Even though they are saying that your build is the gold master, there could still be changes like a updated PDF file.

Uh, screw off, I'm settled. You think Im upset over a pdf file? I was annoyed at the poster who responded to me, because he responded in a very sarcastic and silly fashion.

 

[mrkgoo]

Are you serious? Although not numerous, there ARE several new front end features for SL, including exchange, new expose, new quicktime, etc. It is a Leopard document, and makes no reference to any of the changes. Being as such, some of the information would be flat out wrong and outdated. It would be extremely sloppy if thats what was included on the retail DVD, and not an updated Snow Leopard Welcome document.

It may be sloppy, but I'd be hesitant to call it EXTREMELY sloppy. There really isn't much saleable for the regular user - the product pages do a pretty good job of advertising the needs/benefits for the new features, but they are kind of reaching for Joe Bloggs.

I mean, Chinese character writing support is awesome, but mostly irrelevant to non-Chinese (Yeah, I know China is a huge market). A faster finder? Do you think most users find the finder too slow for use? Lining up expose windows - nice, but a much needed addition? Most of the biggest features are to do with future development and general efficiency and fastness - there aren't particularly many sexy, flashy additions to promote in a pdf. The intro pdf isn't meant to be advertising material, either - it's there to point out the new features. What is it supposed to say? "Go get a stopwatch and time Finder opening"?

Uh, screw off, I'm settled. You think Im upset over a pdf file? I was annoyed at the poster who responded to me, because he responded in a very sarcastic and silly fashion.

I know what you mean. The PDF is just an indicator of the little things that Apple are normally pay some attention to.

 

[LCfiner]

I'm with Slurpy that I find it damn peculiar that they wouldn't update the "welcome to" pdf as the exchange functionality alone is big enough to warrant a revision. it's user centric, it requires setup. it should be in there.

Or the Dock integration with Expose. that should be in there.

But maybe they just rushed Sl out the door and documentation issues slipped through the cracks. would be a shame, but it's possible.

perhaps the pdf is added separately to the disc image and is not part of the actual Sl build number?

we'll know on Friday

 

[bionic77]

edit: No this feature is not as cool as I thought.

I thought the PDF text selection would enable you to copy scanned text.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

I think SL is going to be one of the more important OS X releases for future development than most people realise. By cutting out PPC, and optimising everything towards a 64-bit architecture, it's ensuring that everyone moves forward. Of course the KEY factor in making all this happen is the $29 price point. Everyone WILL move forward. And when people do, developers will, and then everyone wins.

You can bet Apple are hoping for the adopt rate to be unprecedentedly high, and they will promote their numbers every step of the way.

This is what I'm thinking. By having the OS solely crafted for not only x86 but 64-bit as well, OS X is going to fly that much higher.

 

[Particle Physicist]

What's the best way for me to order if their online system isn't working? Should I just fax in the order form? That might take a bit longer, so I was wondering what other people are doing.

I got it to work. Use the link for Apple Retail Store or an Apple authorized reseller instead:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?partNumber=MC204Z/A

Then for place of purchase put: Online Apple Store

Location: Cupertino, CA



I called apple, and that is what they told me to do and it worked.

 

[aparisi2274]

Just saw this on macrumors:

Adobe Principal Product Manager for Photoshop John Nack reports that the company has put together a Snow Leopard FAQ (PDF) notifying customers that while its Creative Suite 4 package is compatible with Apple's forthcoming Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Creative Suite 3 and other earlier versions have not been tested for compatibility and will not be updated if found to be incompatible.

Apple and Adobe have worked closely together (as always with new OS releases) to test compatibility. As for CS4, everything is good with the exception of auto-updates to Flash panels (which I guarantee you're not using*) and Adobe Drive/Version Cue (which doesn't work at the moment on 10.6). CS3 & earlier haven't been tested.
In response to a reader's comment expressing surprise that Creative Suite 3 had not even been tested, Nack responds that while CS3 almost certainly was tested by Adobe, the company has likely taken a conservative route in its guidance in case users do experience issues with CS3 under Snow Leopard.

I found that really surprising, too, and I'll try to get more info. I'd frankly be shocked if people at Adobe & Apple really hadn't tested CS3 on 10.6. I *think* it's just some corporate conservatism at work here, and Adobe doesn't want to over-promise anything. As I say, though, I'll try to find out more.
Upon further questioning of Adobe's lack of support for Creative Suite 3 on Snow Leopard, Nack points out that limited resources dictate that the company focus on current and future priorities, including customer support and feature development, rather than spending time assessing and modifying software released nearly two and a half years ago to ensure continued compatibility.

Basically Adobe Creative Suite 3 is not supported in Snow Leopard, and you need to upgrade.

 

[Jasoco]

CS3 works fine. Even my slimmed down version with the extraneous shit removed and things relocated to reduce Adobe Clutter™.

 

[Particle Physicist]

CS3 works fine. Even my slimmed down version with the extraneous shit removed and things relocated to reduce Adobe Clutter™.

how do you do this with CS4?

 

[aparisi2274]

CS3 works fine. Even my slimmed down version with the extraneous shit removed and things relocated to reduce Adobe Clutter™.

Oh cool. So you are currently running Snow Leopard and everything is good? That is good to know.

 

[Firestorm]

CS3 works fine. Even my slimmed down version with the extraneous shit removed and things relocated to reduce Adobe Clutter™.

what type of extraneous shit?

 

[thetrin]

Ordered my copy of SL this morning from Apple. Junecloud's Delivery says it's been processed...now to play the waiting game.

To be honest, improved expose and the new kanji drawing interface are the two features I'm most looking forward to, but there's plenty of stuff I can't wait to try.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

Pre-orded it via fax. Can't wait!

 

[mrkgoo]

Pre-orded it via fax. Can't wait!

You know, you've become quite the Apple-nut in a very short time.

 

[Shawn128]

I don't know if you guys checked but MacMall is offering Snow Leopard for $25 with $5 overnight shipping.

Just an fyi incase you missed it.

 

[infiniteloop]

Then why the hell does my 10A432 have a 'welcome to leopard' user manual with absolutely no reference to snow leopard or any of its features? Has Apple become that sloppy?

Retail Disc does have a 'Welcome to Snow Leopard' doc:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ts_spotted_ipod_heist_leads_to_jail_time.html

 

[Jasoco]

Oh cool. So you are currently running Snow Leopard and everything is good? That is good to know.

Works for me. I didn't even have to reinstall CS3. It just worked when I upgraded to SL. Even the two times I reinstalled SL. And I expect it will do the same when I buy the final on Friday.

how do you do this with CS4?

what type of extraneous shit?

I don't know. If CS4 is anything like CS3:

Use MonoLingual to remove all the localizations and non Intel binaries from Photoshop (Be careful as it only does all apps and some apps don't like being toyed with. Worst that happens is you have to reinstall a small amount of third party apps)

Move the Device Central app out of its own folder and into the PhotoShop app itself. (Right click on Photoshop, navigate to Resources and drag Device Central into it) Delete the Device Central folder and all its remaining contents. (Which are all readme's in many languages you will never understand for no goddamned reason) Photoshop doesn't require a hard path to the app. It just tells the OS to open Devices and the OS knows where it is. ALTERNATIVELY: If you have more than one Adobe Suite app, you will probably want to keep these apps where they are as they are shared. And if you only have PhotoShop, you can also just move Device Central into the PhotoShop folder if you don't want to dig into the package.

The above method may work with the other apps, but I do not know as I deleted the Help app (You can probably move that into the CS3/4 folder too) and the Bridge (Which you can probably also move in the same way.) as I do not use either the Help or Bridge. And nothing I do has ever asked for them. I only keep Device Central around as it is required by "Save for Web" which is used for animated GIF's. By deleting these I also got rid of the extra Opera they hide in them. I already have Opera 10 installed. I don't need fucking Opera 9 in there too!

By doing this I got my CS3 install of Photoshop down to 400MB. Not including whatever they put in my Library. Speaking of Library, what is with the extra Plug-ins and Presets folders in the Photoshop folder? By default PS installs all its plug-ins and presets in here. But also includes empty folders for presets in the Library. But when you save stuff like keyboard layouts and stuff, it saves into the Library. So why the fuck put some in the Applications folder? FUCK YOU FOR BEING ILLOGICAL, ADOBE! I moved all my presets (Merged really) into the Library and they work fine. But move the Plug-ins and Photoshop suddenly forgets about them. (Filters disappear) BUT then when you look in another folder, the Applications Support folder for the MAIN LIBRARY the Plug-ins work.

(Which proves that Snow Leopards install does not fuck with any personal files installed by applications into the Main library. Which is GOOD.)

So basically, Presets are in User ~/Library/Applications Support/Adobe/Photoshop/Presets/ CS3 and the Plug-ins can go in the MAIN /Library/Applications Support/Adobe/CS3/Plug-ins/ (Note the CS3 only. As plug-ins can be shared across apps I guess? I dunno, I only own Photoshop so I don't know what happens if another app runs into a PS plug-in.)

After all this you end up with one folder and one app. (Don't try to move the lone Photoshop app to the Applications folder and remove the now empty Photoshop folder because PS will complain and freeze at startup trying to find the plug-ins. PLUS when you run Photoshop, no matter what you do or don't do, it will recreate the Plug-ins folder and two empty folders inside. Fucking hell. YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG YOU MORONS! I want to just slap the entire Adobe team in the fucking face for making the worst program in the world that is required by the entire world. How the hell does a company get away with this shit?

Note the much smaller app sizes.

DISCLAIMER: DO NOT attempt if you do not have a way to revert in case of a mistake. You should have access to the installer disc if possible just in case it doesn't work. Jasoco is not responsible for any damage to your Adobe apps if you attempt this method. Do not get wet. Do not feed after midnight. Not suitable for young children. May contain peanuts. Offer expires 12/21/2053.

 

[Foob]

I'm sure this question has been asked, but I'm in a hurry, so god please forgive me.

I'm considering doing a clean install this time around, and am wondering what the best way to back my shit up is? I've never done a clean install before..I was thinking Time Machine, but would that still work when I have a completely fresh OS? Or should I just copy My HD to an external HD and transfer it back after the install?

 

[mrkgoo]

I'm sure this question has been asked, but I'm in a hurry, so god please forgive me.

I'm considering doing a clean install this time around, and am wondering what the best way to back my shit up is? I've never done a clean install before..I was thinking Time Machine, but would that still work when I have a completely fresh OS? Or should I just copy My HD to an external HD and transfer it back after the install?

Time machine is a good idea, because you can even revert operating system if you wanted to. Time machine will have your user folder backed up too, so you can just do a click and drag (I assume).

I expect that once you do a clean install, you can do a migration assistant on your Time Machine backup to just grab your user files.

Perhaps someone can elaborate if I'm mistaken, since I have never done a clean install.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I'm sure this question has been asked, but I'm in a hurry, so god please forgive me.

I'm considering doing a clean install this time around, and am wondering what the best way to back my shit up is? I've never done a clean install before..I was thinking Time Machine, but would that still work when I have a completely fresh OS? Or should I just copy My HD to an external HD and transfer it back after the install?

Don't do a clean install. Pointless waste of your time.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

man everytime i read your posts in Mac threads, you always have to be sacrastic about something, as if what your saying there is a major flaw in OSX. Are you just extremely bored or something? Cmon man its getting old, well imo it is.

What are you talking about? That post was serious...

*ahem* Phoenix != Flying_Phoenix

Phoenix is awesome.

Thank You!

Phoenix is annoying, Liu Kang is not.

Well you're halfway right.

So I assume this post means what I think it means? You don't like me either SnakeXs.

I already said that I'd stop being sarcastic in the previous thread, did my posting habits bother you guys that much?

I mean it was just that one thread.

You know, you've become quite the Apple-nut in a very short time.

I know.

I'm already selling my old desktop to someone so soon I'll just be Mac only. :sunglasses smilie

 

[Particle Physicist]

Adobe Stuff

awesome!!! thanks so much.

 

[Jasoco]

Don't do a clean install. Pointless waste of your time.

This. The modern day OS X install is much more advanced than it was. The default and only install option will safely remove the old OS and replace it with the new OS while not touching anything placed in the Library by the user. Any installed apps that install files in the main Library will still find their files. The installer will keep stuff where it is, while only removing or updating what belongs to it. Any settings are preserved. And the User folder is not touched.

Deleting the original and reinstalling then copying all your files back over is just a waste of time and is not needed. But I am not going to come to your house and force you to not do it, it's your time, so I let you make your decision.

It's just which do you want? Snow Leopard in 20 minutes? Or Snow Leopard in a few hours after restoring all your files?

I prefer the 20 minutes. And yes, it does take 20 minutes providing you turn off all the languages, fonts and printer drivers. (That shit is either unnecessary for most people or can be reinstalled later when you happen to need it. Does anyone seriously speak every language, read every language and use every single printer ever created? No. No one does that. Not even Frank Grimes. So turn those gigabytes of files off and save yourself a shitload of time.)

Oh, and while in there, make sure you turn on Rosetta if you have any PPC apps. It's only 2MB. So just install it.

BTW, the installer steps are much shorter now so you may miss it, but I believe the Customize button you need is in the screen with the HD selection. Clicking Next will install immediately. It's THAT simplified. So don't miss it. Or you'll end up installing 3GB of languages and drivers you didn't want.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

This. The modern day OS X install is much more advanced than it was. The default and only install option will safely remove the old OS and replace it with the new OS while not touching anything placed in the Library by the user. Any installed apps that install files in the main Library will still find their files. The installer will keep stuff where it is, while only removing or updating what belongs to it. Any settings are preserved. And the User folder is not touched.

Deleting the original and reinstalling then copying all your files back over is just a waste of time and is not needed. But I am not going to come to your house and force you to not do it, it's your time, so I let you make your decision.

It's just which do you want? Snow Leopard in 20 minutes? Or Snow Leopard in a few hours after restoring all your files?

I prefer the 20 minutes. And yes, it does take 20 minutes providing you turn off all the languages, fonts and printer drivers. (That shit is either unnecessary for most people or can be reinstalled later when you happen to need it. Does anyone seriously speak every language, read every language and use every single printer ever created? No. No one does that. Not even Frank Grimes. So turn those gigabytes of files off and save yourself a shitload of time.)

Oh, and while in there, make sure you turn on Rosetta if you have any PPC apps. It's only 2MB. So just install it.

BTW, the installer steps are much shorter now so you may miss it, but I believe the Customize button you need is in the screen with the HD selection. Clicking Next will install immediately. It's THAT simplified. So don't miss it. Or you'll end up installing 3GB of languages and drivers you didn't want.

Wow, thanks a lot for the info Jasoco.

 

[Cornballer]

I got it to work. Use the link for Apple Retail Store or an Apple authorized reseller instead:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?partNumber=MC204Z/A

Then for place of purchase put: Online Apple Store

Location: Cupertino, CA



I called apple, and that is what they told me to do and it worked.

Thanks! That worked!

 

[Burger]

What's the bet that Mail.app is still broken and sends wonky jpeg attachments to Microsoft Outlook ?

Yeah I know it's Outlooks fault, but the 'Send Windows Friendly Attachments' should do what it says.

 

[thetrin]

What's the bet that Mail.app is still broken and sends wonky jpeg attachments to Microsoft Outlook ?

Yeah I know it's Outlooks fault, but the 'Send Windows Friendly Attachments' should do what it says.

I just realized I never use Mail.app.

 

[zombieshavebrains]

I bought my refurb Mac like July 21st or something. When i click the correct link in the OP it takes me to my cart but there isn't anything in it. Mac website says i need to fax a form within 90 days of buying it but where is the form? Do i have to wait till the 28th?

 

[Blackhead]

This. The modern day OS X install is much more advanced than it was. The default and only install option will safely remove the old OS and replace it with the new OS while not touching anything placed in the Library by the user. Any installed apps that install files in the main Library will still find their files. The installer will keep stuff where it is, while only removing or updating what belongs to it. Any settings are preserved. And the User folder is not touched.

Deleting the original and reinstalling then copying all your files back over is just a waste of time and is not needed. But I am not going to come to your house and force you to not do it, it's your time, so I let you make your decision.

It's just which do you want? Snow Leopard in 20 minutes? Or Snow Leopard in a few hours after restoring all your files?

I prefer the 20 minutes. And yes, it does take 20 minutes providing you turn off all the languages, fonts and printer drivers. (That shit is either unnecessary for most people or can be reinstalled later when you happen to need it. Does anyone seriously speak every language, read every language and use every single printer ever created? No. No one does that. Not even Frank Grimes. So turn those gigabytes of files off and save yourself a shitload of time.)

Oh, and while in there, make sure you turn on Rosetta if you have any PPC apps. It's only 2MB. So just install it.

BTW, the installer steps are much shorter now so you may miss it, but I believe the Customize button you need is in the screen with the HD selection. Clicking Next will install immediately. It's THAT simplified. So don't miss it. Or you'll end up installing 3GB of languages and drivers you didn't want.

Turning off the languages means the web browsers won't be able to display them, right? Like you'll get those boxes where Japanese characters and the like are supposed to be?

 

[Battlezone]

I thought if you ordered SL by today, it was guaranteed delivery on Friday? I ordered it this morning, and it's showing a delivery window of Sept. 1-5. Anybody else getting this? If this is the case, I'd rather just cancel this order and go pick it up at the store Friday.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

What are you talking about? That post was serious...



Thank You!

So I assume this post means what I think it means? You don't like me either SnakeXs.

I already said that I'd stop being sarcastic in the previous thread, did my posting habits bother you guys that much?

I mean it was just that one thread.



I know.

I'm already selling my old desktop to someone so soon I'll just be Mac only. :sunglasses smilie

What were you thanking Juice for? He wasn't backing you up at all.

 

[SnakeXs]

Yay. Apple Store 5th Ave is closing tomorrow from 10-12, and will be selling SL at midnight. Sweet.

 

[Particle Physicist]

I bought my refurb Mac like July 21st or something. When i click the correct link in the OP it takes me to my cart but there isn't anything in it. Mac website says i need to fax a form within 90 days of buying it but where is the form? Do i have to wait till the 28th?

do this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17303517&postcount=370

the apple store is being wonky right now.

 

[StrikerObi]

I prefer the 20 minutes. And yes, it does take 20 minutes providing you turn off all the languages, fonts and printer drivers. (That shit is either unnecessary for most people or can be reinstalled later when you happen to need it. Does anyone seriously speak every language, read every language and use every single printer ever created? No. No one does that. Not even Frank Grimes. So turn those gigabytes of files off and save yourself a shitload of time.)

I thought Snow Leopard's install option had languages and printer drivers turned off already? Isn't that how they're "saving" you 7GB of disk space?

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

What were you thanking Juice for? He wasn't backing you up at all.

Oh I mis-interpreted the "!". My mistake. Anyway sorry if I annoyed you guys, but I already said I'd stop being sarcastic and that post that someone quoted I was being serious with. I really don't like the Finder.

 

[Blackhead]

I thought Snow Leopard's install option had languages and printer drivers turned off already? Isn't that how they're "saving" you 7GB of disk space?

I thought the 7GB saved was the PPC code from the universal binary