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[McNei1y]

good kid, m.A.A.d city is an awesome album

 

[CB3]

Classic BLT flavored Lays is one of the most bizarre flavor experiences I've ever had.

What is it like?

 

[rinse82]

good kid, m.A.A.d city is an awesome album

Best of the year

 

[TheDrizzlerJ11]

What is it like?

No matter how I describe it, it's gonna surprise you. You taste Bacon, Mayo, tomato, and lettuce in that order. All on a potato chip.

 

[bluemax]

Yeah it does seem a bit odd.

Well, whatever. My linebackers have high hit power with hard hitting so it matters not to me.

The point of running the INT numbers was to show how turnovers of all kinds are up this season not just fumbles.

People fumbled at an acceptable rate for 2 seasons and now 1/4 of the way into this season that rate has spiked.

If INT rates didn't spike then it would be easier to believe that fumbling is an isolated issue but because INT rates are also higher makes me believe its not a bug in the game.

 

[CB3]

I think I rather just have bacon flavor chips

 

[LJ11]

Superior coaching on display right now.

 

[Mrbob]

The point of running the INT numbers was to show how turnovers of all kinds are up this season not just fumbles.

People fumbled at an acceptable rate for 2 seasons and now 1/4 of the way into this season that rate has spiked.

If INT rates didn't spike then it would be easier to believe that fumbling is an isolated issue but because INT rates are also higher makes me believe its not a bug in the game.

I see plenty of ints dropped every game, though. It's bad decision making more than anything else. You can't have a bad fumble decision. It just happens. I've fumbled 5 times with Forte this year already and I barely run.

 

[Sokantish]

The point of running the INT numbers was to show how turnovers of all kinds are up this season not just fumbles.

People fumbled at an acceptable rate for 2 seasons and now 1/4 of the way into this season that rate has spiked.

If INT rates didn't spike then it would be easier to believe that fumbling is an isolated issue but because INT rates are also higher makes me believe its not a bug in the game.

So what are you suggesting, exactly? Turn fumble slider back down because there's no ballhawk slider?

 

[bluemax]

I haven't read all of this Ramirez vs Smokey stuff but I will say this, the two highest volume passers in this league are Ramirez and Trasher. There's almost no reason to expect a running play against either of them.

 

[TheDrizzlerJ11]

I think if you try to truck with a back who has low trucking you're more likely to fumble. I had this thought this offseason and have stopped trucking with CJ. He has 0 fumbles still. I have no idea how many of my previous ones came from trucking or if any tho since I didn't think of this at all during the season, but CJ has low trucking.

 

[BigAT]

"Stop passing the ball asshole!"

"Stop passing the ball asshole!"

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43106651&postcount=16434

Just sayin'.

 

[bluemax]

I see plenty of ints dropped every game, though. It's bad decision making more than anything else. You can't have a bad fumble decision. It just happens. I've fumbled 5 times with Forte this year already and I barely run.

So what are you suggesting, exactly? Turn fumble slider back down because there's no ballhawk slider?

I feel like the sample size is too small right now. We have two seasons of turn over data that say fumbles are fine and INTs are up over past Maddens. Now we have 1/4 of a season where everything is up. Why not play out the season and see if things normalize and then adjust?

 

[Mrbob]

Niners defense is trash. Even if they win today they need to be heavily downgraded next year.

I think if you try to truck with a back who has low trucking you're more likely to fumble. I had this thought this offseason and have stopped trucking with CJ. He has 0 fumbles still. I have no idea how many of my previous ones came from trucking or if any tho since I didn't think of this at all during the season, but CJ has low trucking.

I haven't attempt to truck anybody with Forte. Usually the fumbles happen in a pile of guys and I can't move anywhere but wait to be hit.

 

[TheDrizzlerJ11]

I haven't attempt to truck any back with Forte. Usually the fumbles happen in a pile of guys and I can't move anywhere but wait to be hit.

I'd imagine Forte would have good trucking too? I just stopped since I noticed CJ's is so low, better to try and wiggle out of tackles with a Juke or spin and now I have 0 fumbles.

 

[CB3]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43106651&postcount=16434

Just sayin'.

I didn't remember that! I unknowingly Carlos Mencia'd you

 

[Sokantish]

I feel like the sample size is too small right now. We have two seasons of turn over data that say fumbles are fine and INTs are up over past Maddens. Now we have 1/4 of a season where everything is up. Why not play out the season and see if things normalize and then adjust?

Because its not like fumbles were a problem just this season. You don't think that maybe INTs might seem worse than fumbles because most people pass the ball WAY more than they run?

 

[CB3]

I don't know how to handle a non sarcastic soka.

 

[Sokantish]

I'm sorry CB, it's just bluemax is being SILLY

 

[LJ11]

always felt S play is Niners biggest weakness, both have dog shit instincts but can lay you out, get exposed without a pass rush.

 

[bluemax]

Because its not like fumbles were a problem this season. You don't think that maybe INTs might seem worse than fumbles because most people pass the ball WAY more than they run?

You're missing point. I presented hard evidence that people are throwing INTs at an even higher rate right now than they did the past two seasons. Yes, people have always been bad about throwing picks but its even worse this season than the past two. You can't just discount that when discussing turnovers because the root cause is possibly the same.

What I'm saying is this, leave the fumble slider alone until the end of the season. Then run the numbers for INTs and Fumbles again. If INTs normalized and Fumbles still spiked then fix the slider. If both are up then we know the issue is probably from people improving their teams. If this is the case then we can discuss the fix then.

I just don't like this knee jerk reaction mid season that was done with no data.

Sokantish. Tell you what, you provide me data that fumbles were off the charts in season 1 and 2 and I'll back off.

 

[mastershake]

good kid, m.A.A.d city is an awesome album

Yep. That album as been on constant rotation in my car for months now.

 

[Ramirez]

Classic BLT flavored Lays is one of the most bizarre flavor experiences I've ever had.

Luke mocked me one night on Diablo 3 for saying these chips were amazing.

I haven't read all of this Ramirez vs Smokey stuff but I will say this, the two highest volume passers in this league are Ramirez and Trasher. There's almost no reason to expect a running play against either of them.

My TJ Brother!

 

[Trasher]

Can anyone show the stats for who has the most defensive touchdowns so far this season?

 

[LukeSmith]

You're missing point. I presented hard evidence that people are throwing INTs at an even higher rate right now than they did the past two seasons. Yes, people have always been bad about throwing picks but its even worse this season than the past two. You can't just discount that when discussing turnovers because the root cause is possibly the same.

What I'm saying is this, leave the fumble slider alone until the end of the season. Then run the numbers for INTs and Fumbles again. If INTs normalized and Fumbles still spiked then fix the slider. If both are up then we know the issue is probably from people improving their teams. If this is the case then we can discuss the fix then.

I just don't like this knee jerk reaction mid season that was done with no data.

Sokantish. Tell you what, you provide me data that fumbles were off the charts in season 1 and 2 and I'll back off.

Pretty much this.

 

[Sokantish]

I know why bluemax is doing this guys, in the season before last I was winning the game and running the clock out with Peterson and he fumbled on the stupidest play ever and it led to bluemax winning the game. bluemax just wants his cheating fumbles to stay in the game!

 

[CB3]

Bluemax threw a bunch of int's against me last season

Bias exposed!

 

[TheDrizzlerJ11]

Luke mocked me one night on Diablo 3 for saying these chips were amazing.

I had the first one and thought "What the hell did I buy?", but now I can't stop eating them.

 

[Trasher]

I haven't read all of this Ramirez vs Smokey stuff but I will say this, the two highest volume passers in this league are Ramirez and Trasher. There's almost no reason to expect a running play against either of them.

Oh really?

This Season
Terrelle Pryor 7 att 2 INT 28.6%
Shane Pitsenberger 15 att 3 INT 20%
Scam Newton 87 att 16 INT 18.4%
Kody Arias 103 att 18 INT 17.4%
Evan Garaday 115 att 19 INT 16.5%
Brock Osweiler 125 att 18 INT 14.4%
Ben Roofiesburger 125 att 17 INT 13.6%
Aaron Rodgers 82 att 11 INT 13.4%
Michael Vick 68 att 9 INT 13.2%
Joe Flacco 154 att 20 INT 12.9%
Russell Wilson 116 att 15 INT 12.9%
Drew Brees 94 att 12 INT 12.8%
Kyle Angle 106 att 13 INT 12.3%
RG3 154 att 18 INT 11.7%
Will Myers 126 att 14 INT 11.1%
Alex Smith 110 att 12 INT 10.9%
Matt Schoob 93 att 10 INT 10.8%
Pharoah Phillips 74 att 8 INT 10.8%
Matt Ryan 106 att 11 INT 10.4%
Kyle Baker 96 att 10 INT 10.4%
Mike Flenorl 78 att 8 INT 10.3%
Fatt Stafford 186 stt 19 INT 10.2%
Jay Cutler 101 att 10 INT 9.9%
Jake Locker 122 att 11 INT 9%
Tom Brady 118 att 11 INT 9.3%
Ryan Tannehill 123 att 11 INT 8.94%
Sam Bradford 97 att 8 INT 8.2%
Eli Manning 76 att 6 INT 7.9%
Josh Freeman 96 att 7 INT 7.3%
Peyton Manning 78 att 5 INT 6.4%
Philip Rivers 97 att 5 INT 5.2%
Colin Kaepernick 82 4 INT 4.9%
Andrew Luck 114 att 5 INT 4.4%
Tony Romo 100 att 4 INT 4%

Past 2 Seasons
Terelle Pryor 4 att 1 INT 25%
Joe Flacco 164 att 41 INT 25%
Scam Newton 477 att 76 INT 15.9%
Matt Ryan 714 att 100 INT 14%
Pharoah Phillips 392 att 47 INT 11.9%
Jake Locker 720 att 80 INT 11.1%
Aaron Rodgers 726 att 79 INT 10.9%
Christian Ponder 654 att 71 INT 10.9%
RG3 664 att 70 INT 10.5%
Drew Brees 543 att 54 INT 9.9%
Andy Dalton 721 att 70 INT 9.7%
Russell Wilson 676 att 64 INT 9.5%
Matt Schoob 630 att 60 INT 9.5%
Tom Brady 1020 att 97 INT 9.5%
Matt Cassel 774 att 72 INT 9.3%
Tony Romo 638 att 58 INT 9.1%
Ryan Tannehill 715 att 62 INT 8.7%
Eli Manning 502 att 43 INT 8.6%
Statt Padford 936 att 80 INT 8.6%
Will Myers 189 att 16 INT 8.5%
Josh Freeman 697 att 57 INT 8.2%
Sam Bradford 622 att 51 INT 8.2%
Phillip Rivers 766 att 62 INT 8.1%
Andrew Luck 735 att 58 INT 7.9%
Ryan Fitzpatrick 543 att 41 INT 7.6%
Ben Roofiesburger 841 att 61 INT 7.3%
Zach Richmond 113 att 8 INT 7.1%
Michael Vick 627 att 44 INT 7%
Jay Cutler 500 att 28 INT 5.6%
Alex Smith 438 att 21 INT 4.8%
Peyton Manning 485 att 23 INT 4.7%

 

[bluemax]

I know why bluemax is doing this guys, in the season before last I was winning the game and running the clock out with Peterson and he fumbled on the stupidest play ever and it led to bluemax winning the game. bluemax just wants his cheating fumbles to stay in the game!

Sure that's it, be obtuse.

Oh really?

Uh yes? I guess I could've included Sanjuro in that but when I played him he actually ran the ball.

 

[TheDrizzlerJ11]

Yeah they're only 2 of the 3 highest volume passers!

 

[Trasher]

Yeah they're only 2 of the 3 highest volume passers!

We ain't got nothing on Sanjurbro!

Let's be real though... If you have the best player in the game (and he plays WR), then it's not fucking all that ridiculous to throw the ball as much as I do!

Especially when you can't count on your RB to hold onto the ball.

 

[Trasher]

Uh yes? I guess I could've included Sanjuro in that but when I played him he actually ran the ball.

You guess? YOU GUESS?!

the two highest volume passers in this league are Ramirez and Trasher.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess this statement is a flat out LIE!

The TRUTH would be "the two highest volume passers in this league are Sanjuro and Trasher."

Why you gotta protect your SanjurBRO huh?! You guys have a pact with each other or some shit???

 

[BigAT]

We ain't got nothing on Sanjurbro!

Let's be real though... If you have the best player in the game (and he plays WR), then it's not fucking all that ridiculous to throw the ball as much as I do!

Especially when you can't count on your RB to hold onto the ball.

P-Will plays WR?

 

[Trasher]

P-Will plays WR?

Didn't Rors say P Willy caught a TD pass in a preseason game? lolol

 

[bluemax]

You guess? YOU GUESS?!



I'm gonna go ahead and guess this statement is a flat out LIE!

The TRUTH would be "the two highest volume passers in this league are Sanjuro and Trasher."

Why you gotta protect your SanjurBRO huh?! You guys have a pact with each other or some shit???

Sanjubro actually hangs out with me when I ask him too!

 

[Mrbob]

I'm surprised I'm not that far ahead in terms of passing attempts. In fact I could be argued to be near the middle. The high end of the middle but not too out of line.

I'd like to split my ints between morning and night. I'm not a big morning person, and 11 of those ints came in two morning games. Three ints came in 4 night games. No more morning games for me!

 

[Sokantish]

Sure that's it, be obtuse.

What? What did you call me?

 

[Trasher]

I'm surprised I'm not that far ahead in terms of passing attempts. In fact I could be argued to be near the middle. The high end of the middle but not too out of line.

I'd like to split my ints between morning and night. I'm not a big morning person, and 11 of those ints came in two morning games. Three ints came in 4 night games. No more morning games for me!

da fuq?

What? What did you call me?

 

[bluemax]

Atlanta is lucky to have home field against these West Coast teams. If they weren't jumping out to such early leads they'd probably be getting blown out.

 

[McNei1y]

Yep. That album as been on constant rotation in my car for months now.

I'm upset it took me so long to listen to it. It really may be the best of 2012, as Rinse said.

 

[LJ11]

Some awful safety play in this game once again.

No idea where the safety was going on the Moss dig route, dude was practically in the endzone when Moss is the only threat.

Willis is also getting worked hard today.

 

[CB3]

Didn't Rors say P Willy caught a TD pass in a preseason game? lolol

Yep. Against me

 

[Trasher]

Yep. Against me

Oh nm not Rors. It was you!

 

[LukeSmith]

The niners will still win this game because the Falcons defense is shades of Soka Season 2

 

[BigAT]

Passer ratings of 136 and 131 right now, even with Ryan's INT. Defense?

 

[Sokantish]

Come on, they aren't that bad.

 

[bluemax]

The niners will still win this game because the Falcons defense is shades of Soka Season 2

49ers are 1-27 since 2001 when trailing by 17 or more in the first half. That's kind of crazy.

 

[CB3]

I warned fmt about Akers

 

[eznark]

The niners will still win this game because the Falcons defense is shades of Soka Season 2

Matt Ryan will win it for the Niners. Have no fear.