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Official Madden '16 PS4 Online league thread #2: Blink Daggers and Backflips
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Azwethinkweiz
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A Tale of Two Lineups.
For the first 10 games of the season WR Tyronne McKay torched teams at a historic rate. By putting his best player in the slot, lilbowser guaranteed matchups against garbage tier cornerbacks and the game was easy.
Finally shame caught up to him. But Bowser kept winning. Let's look at How, on a very special edition of Inside the Numbers
Slot Machines: The curious case of Bowser's Offense
DAL Record through 10: 8-2
Close Games (one possession): 5
record in close games: 3-2
DAL record over the final 6: 4-2
Close Games: 3* (the LJ game was a blowout bolstered into a close game by garbage time points, but I'm still including it for accuracy)
record in Close games: 1-2
Analysis: To really do this justice, I'd need way better data like strength of schedule of the first 10 opponents vs the final six in case Bowser's schedule gets unreasonably hard in the final six games (one could argue it's harder because he played PHI 2x and LJ once) and his season only included 2 other playoff teams (SF and KC - extend that to teams witn winning records and it looks a little better (TB, OAK[ish], SEA, CHI, SD). I think the case is pretty clear that his first ten games had higher opponent quality than his final six.
So there's already a drop off in winning in the back six, against easier competition than the opening 10 games.
How did Bowser's players perform across these stretches?
Through 10 games:
A. Rodgers: 385 ypg, 31 TDs/15 INTs
Slot McKay: 163 ypg, 15 TDs
Williams: 32 ypg, 4 TDs
Slot McKay accounted for 43% of the yardage and 48% of the TDs during this stretch.
Outside Wide Receiver Terrence Williams accounted for 8% of the yardage and 13% of TDs during this stretch.
Through the Final 6:
A. Rodgers: 319 ypg, 14 TDs/12 INTs
Wide McKay: 126 ypg, 4 TDs
T Williams: 45.5 ypg, 3 TDs
Wide Mckay accounted for 39% of the yardage and 29% of the TDs during this stretch.
Terrence accounted for 14% of the yardage and 21% of the TDs during this stretch.
How did Bowser's players perform comparatively across these two splits?
This is where it starts to get interesting.
Rodgers saw his yardage numbers dip by nearly 20%, his TDs per game dropped by 25%, and INTs increased by 25%.
McKay's yardage dropped by 25%, his TDs dropped by 56%
pro rating the performance over a full season here's the difference:
McKay Slot:
Rodgers 6155 yards, 50 TDs 24 INTs
McKay 109 rec, 2614 yards 24 TDs
Williams 24 rec 515 yards 6 TDs
McKay Wide:
Rodgers 5104 yards, 37 TDs, 32 INTs
McKay 90 rec 2016 yards, 11 TDs
Williams 59 rec 728 yards 8 TDs
"Producing a little bit more" Terrence williams
and "Similarly Effective" Mckay have been anything but since the switch.
And Rodgers falloff has been tremendous. Without a free match-up win in the form of a safety blanket in the slot, he's had to actually make reads and throws - and that's led to an inefficient performance down the stretch.
Conclusions: Without the safety blanket of McKay in the slot, Bowser's offense has suffered. Slot McKay was an easy matchup win which led to easy touchdowns against scrubby nickel corners.
But Rodgers would still have lead the league in yardage, (but not TDs) and would've been in the top 8 for INTs.
Sorry. Scratch that. Can't play right at this moment.
Not sure I'll be able to play until after the game tonight. I'll try to get a hold of you here if something changes.
Edit: Just saw your other post. Yeah, if not today we can get it in tomorrow night too.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
A Tale of Two Lineups.
For the first 10 games of the season WR Tyronne McKay torched teams at a historic rate. By putting his best player in the slot, lilbowser guaranteed matchups against garbage tier cornerbacks and the game was easy.
Finally shame caught up to him. But Bowser kept winning. Let's look at How, on a very special edition of Inside the Numbers
Slot Machines: The curious case of Bowser's Offense
DAL Record through 10: 8-2
Close Games (one possession): 5
record in close games: 3-2
DAL record over the final 6: 4-2
Close Games: 3* (the LJ game was a blowout bolstered into a close game by garbage time points, but I'm still including it for accuracy)
record in Close games: 1-2
Analysis: To really do this justice, I'd need way better data like strength of schedule of the first 10 opponents vs the final six in case Bowser's schedule gets unreasonably hard in the final six games (one could argue it's harder because he played PHI 2x and LJ once) and his season only included 2 other playoff teams (SF and KC - extend that to teams witn winning records and it looks a little better (TB, OAK[ish], SEA, CHI, SD). I think the case is pretty clear that his first ten games had higher opponent quality than his final six.
So there's already a drop off in winning in the back six, against easier competition than the opening 10 games.
How did Bowser's players perform across these stretches?
Through 10 games:
A. Rodgers: 385 ypg, 31 TDs/15 INTs
Slot McKay: 163 ypg, 15 TDs
Williams: 32 ypg, 4 TDs
Slot McKay accounted for 43% of the yardage and 48% of the TDs during this stretch.
Outside Wide Receiver Terrence Williams accounted for 8% of the yardage and 13% of TDs during this stretch.
Through the Final 6:
A. Rodgers: 319 ypg, 14 TDs/12 INTs
Wide McKay: 126 ypg, 4 TDs
T Williams: 45.5 ypg, 3 TDs
Wide Mckay accounted for 39% of the yardage and 29% of the TDs during this stretch.
Terrence accounted for 14% of the yardage and 21% of the TDs during this stretch.
How did Bowser's players perform comparatively across these two splits?
This is where it starts to get interesting.
Rodgers saw his yardage numbers dip by nearly 20%, his TDs per game dropped by 25%, and INTs increased by 25%.
McKay's yardage dropped by 25%, his TDs dropped by 56%
pro rating the performance over a full season here's the difference:
McKay Slot:
Rodgers 6155 yards, 50 TDs 24 INTs
McKay 109 rec, 2614 yards 24 TDs
Williams 24 rec 515 yards 6 TDs
McKay Wide:
Rodgers 5104 yards, 37 TDs, 32 INTs
McKay 90 rec 2016 yards, 11 TDs
Williams 59 rec 728 yards 8 TDs
"Producing a little bit more" Terrence williams
and "Similarly Effective" Mckay have been anything but since the switch.
And Rodgers falloff has been tremendous. Without a free match-up win in the form of a safety blanket in the slot, he's had to actually make reads and throws - and that's led to an inefficient performance down the stretch.
Conclusions: Without the safety blanket of McKay in the slot, Bowser's offense has suffered. Slot McKay was an easy matchup win which led to easy touchdowns against scrubby nickel corners.
But Rodgers would still have lead the league in yardage, (but not TDs) and would've been in the top 8 for INTs.
Daaaaaamn
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Can you play 4:30? I'm not home.
I want to try and play today so we don't get simmed.
I did take Rodgers out of the second half of my last game and stopped throwing to McKay to avoid injuries so the numbers are slightly skewed.
I shame nothing!
Also had my running backs back in the last few games so Rodgers TD's dipped partially because of my ability to run again.
I shame nothing!
Also had my running backs back in the last few games so Rodgers TD's dipped partially because of my ability to run again.
ScottSullivan
Member
4:30 EST today? I'm leaving for the superbowl party at 5 so probably not.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Dang.
Can you guys please not advance until after me and Scott play tomorrow at 9?
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
DCX
DCX
But it's far more entertaining if you guys both go into the game believing you need to win!
I know I need to win regardless.
Give the people what they want!
Still there? I had to make a quick run but I'm back
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Yea, give me 5 mins, finishing an XCOM mission
EDIT: Getting on now
Week 17: Bears vs. Bucs
http://www.twitch.tv/thelostbigboss
Couple of weeks ago I said that shading inside/outside doesn't work with zone cov, got it confirmed that it does, not like its effective. Also read that stock purple zones work better than the hot routed purples, hot routed hook zones have always behaved differently than stock, but there are so few stock purple zones in current gen Madden that its hard to observe differences. Wonder if the patch will address any of this.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
in all the streams ive watched or games ive played i have seen literally 1 play with stock purple zone. wonder why they dont exist anymore
Only one I can think of strong nickel, but yeah EA just took them out completely for the most part.
tlbb takes a time out on defense in his own territory on 3rd and 4 with like 34 seconds left on the clock. Two TDs get dropped on him before the end of half (like a 60-70yard rushing TD to end the half).
Was this before or after he emptied a clip into his R6 teammate
Purple Cheeto
Member
In my last 3 games my team injured Foles, Bradford and Jordan Reed. Bunch of dirty PED users.
Not sure about that, but it was definitely after he grenaded the hostage!
I'm down for some pre super bowl r6.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
same!
Azwethinkweiz
Member
Missed the National Anthem. I'm going to guess that Gaga didn't tramp it up since twitter isn't going crazy.
Azwethinkweiz
Member
Oh she's got some pipes on her. I just assumed she'd come out wearing dead babies or something.
They are mini burgers made by my brother in laws fiancé.
Im pretty sure the refs dont know the rules about catches judging from the past two years or so.