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Official NeoGAF US Mid-term Elections 2006 Thread
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VictimOfGrief
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I'll honestly say having democrats in the house and maybe the senate means jack shit. Most of you koolaid drinkers that are "happy' with this outcome aren't going to get any more respect / bills passed with Bush still president for another 2 years.
The biggest problem is the democratic party has no voice, it has no basis for any roadmap to give the American people any hope. Not saying the republicans have done a bang up job of doing better but seriously, stop smoking the crack thinking that if the dems take the house and the senate that this country is going to be any better.
Also.... F*** any attempt of a democrat being president in 2008.... it will be a re-lapse of the f***** up Clinton saga all over again.
The biggest problem is the democratic party has no voice, it has no basis for any roadmap to give the American people any hope. Not saying the republicans have done a bang up job of doing better but seriously, stop smoking the crack thinking that if the dems take the house and the senate that this country is going to be any better.
Also.... F*** any attempt of a democrat being president in 2008.... it will be a re-lapse of the f***** up Clinton saga all over again.
Erm..Republicans took control of the house/senate under Clinton in a wave much like Democrats did this year and they STILL won the Presidential race.VictimOfGrief said:
So why can't Democrats?
Also the Democratic Congress and Bush WILL come together on some things. Bush's immigration plans were shot down by the GOP Congress. The Democrat one oddly have similar views on Bush on that issue.
One thing got over-looked. Indiana. Indiana was won BIG by Bush in 2004. Dem's took the state house there and 3 house seats. If you paid attention to that state during the race one name comes up. EVAN BAYH.
The democrat current senator/former gov. of the red state put A LOT of work in there this race and made it a blue state.
He plans to run for President and is he is a big time moderate, his chances have rose a lot with this campaigning power he used in Indiana this year. Keep an eye on this guy:
The democrat current senator/former gov. of the red state put A LOT of work in there this race and made it a blue state.
He plans to run for President and is he is a big time moderate, his chances have rose a lot with this campaigning power he used in Indiana this year. Keep an eye on this guy:
VictimOfGrief
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Not crying at all, however my bitterness stems from the fact that over 3/4 of this board is democrat and are delighted in thinking their party is going to do any better. Really, it's quite sad to see.scorcho said:
VictimOfGrief said:
Well, what are you? I have to assume, given your response, that you feel Democrats are gonna do worse or at least not any better. So if you think they're gonna do worse, that implies you think the Republicans would do better and thus it's the same thing you're calling the board out for. If you think they will both do equally shitty, then it's not logical your response because at the very least we've seen Republicans do horribly for the past few years and so it's best to give the Democrats a chance once again after all that.
Alternatively, you're a green party member and you hate life by throwing your vote away
So, which is it?
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.VictimOfGrief said:
the best part is that what Snow calls 'gridlock', i call 'checks and balances'. there's a great piece on Foreign Affairs this month on how Congress has essentially removed itself from checking executive power over the last few decades (though it's fallen dramatically in the current Republican control). i'm very hopeful that Democratic control of the House (and Senate?) will at the least reclaim some authority in DC.VALIS said:
VictimOfGrief
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Meh. I would generally say that after this election that the 2 party system is the one to blame and that having "representatives" in Congress / House who don't represent my views is what is ruining democracy for most states in the Union.Cheebs said:
Living in Oregon where multnomah county runs the state and is 99.9% democrat... is a fluke since the rest of Oregon is republican. It's shit like that pisses me off since our state representation is a bunch of morons who don't represent the majority of the people.
Agreeing on things is all well and dandy but I foresee there being a shit ton of political bickering now that the dems have one side of the congress.
Awesome. Tom Delay is on MSNBC:
"We took a Texas whooping" :lol
ITS ****ING CHECKS AND BALANCES BABY.
You know what? If the only thing the democrat congress does is kick out Rummy, then this will be all worth it.
"We took a Texas whooping" :lol
Looks like both sides of congress. I love how the GOP is calling this bickering and gridlock. As said earlier this is no gridlock.VictimOfGrief said:
ITS ****ING CHECKS AND BALANCES BABY.
You know what? If the only thing the democrat congress does is kick out Rummy, then this will be all worth it.
Cheebs said:Awesome. Tom Delay is on MSNBC:
"We took a Texas whooping" :lol
Looks like both sides of congress. I love how the GOP is calling this bickering and gridlock. As said earlier this is no gridlock.
ITS ****ING CHECKS AND BALANCES BABY.
You know what? If the only thing the democrat congress does is kick out Rummy, then this will be all worth it.
I don't think the Congress needs to do anything (if they even can legally) to kick out Rummy. I think after this election no amount of "votes of confidence" from Bush will keep him around.
VictimOfGrief
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Amir0x said:
To respond with a one-sided argument I would have to state that my alignment with the republicans is not flawed. It is. My view of the democrats and the republicans is one of being jaded. My responses thus far on the election crap is one in the minority.
Me stating that the democrats are not going to do a better job means just that. The republicans haven't proven themselves over the course of the past couple years so now you democrat folks are getting a chance. Congrats. That being said I doubt it's going to do any good for any of the American people with Bush deeply seated in his ways and in office for the next two years. Sure, some stuff will get done, but for the majority it won't.
The bullshit that you people are thriving off of is that "things will be better for America..."
:lol
Seriously. I'll defend my party line because I think there's a higher majority of democrat pricks that cater to special interest groups, prompt lower class, minority social groups but then turn their backs on them once they get elected. Sure, the republican side has some of that going on too, but for the most part democrats will lure people in their candy coated words and then before you know it... you've got a president cigar f****** a white house aid.
This goes without saying but this is MY opinion on how broken both party systems are.......... HOWEVER, in the long run, it's the American people that suffer at the hands of politicians that can't get any shit done or who are either too far left... or too far right to talk to each other.
Remember... it always boils down to:
Who ever wins, We Lose.
Just wanted to give everyone an update on the local elections here in Oklahoma.
Incumbent Gov. Brad Henry absolutely destroyed Ernest Istook, who conceded early in the night. This effect worked its way down the ballot, electing Democrats to 8 of 9 statewide offices. This includes my candidate, Jari Askins, who defeated Speaker of the House Todd Hiett by about 5%. The state senate is evenly split between Dems and Repubs, so Jari now holds the tie-breaking vote.
The Oklahoma County District Atty. race was amazing, too--Democrat David Prater defeated his former boss, Wes Lane, who fired him several years ago. He won by 800 votes, defying expectations that Lane would win going away.
Needless to say, there's plenty of excitement around here, and I can't wait to (hopefully) get to work at the state capitol!
Incumbent Gov. Brad Henry absolutely destroyed Ernest Istook, who conceded early in the night. This effect worked its way down the ballot, electing Democrats to 8 of 9 statewide offices. This includes my candidate, Jari Askins, who defeated Speaker of the House Todd Hiett by about 5%. The state senate is evenly split between Dems and Repubs, so Jari now holds the tie-breaking vote.
The Oklahoma County District Atty. race was amazing, too--Democrat David Prater defeated his former boss, Wes Lane, who fired him several years ago. He won by 800 votes, defying expectations that Lane would win going away.
Needless to say, there's plenty of excitement around here, and I can't wait to (hopefully) get to work at the state capitol!
VictimOfGrief said:
well, there you have it. You DO think the Republicans will do a better job, even if it's a tiny bit better. Therefore, it's more than a little double sided to try to say it's "bullshit" for Democratic supporters to think the same for their party or who they voted for.
I do think the Democrats will do a better job. I don't think they will do a perfect job. I think there's a lot of shit that the party needs to fix, and I think no matter what it's not gonna happen overnight and I also believe we're gonna need a Democratic president before we can truly see what they will do with complete power. But, in the end, I think it's going to make the government move in a positive direction and that's the key for me. That is what affected my vote. I have voted for Republicans in the past, and I like a lot of them. But this year, it was simply not in the cards because they have done too much wrong. And yes, I think this mix up with put a fire under some asses and improve things.
VictimOfGrief said:
It has got to be said... do you honestly still care that our President was getting a little sweet pussy on the side? Do you? Genuine question. I don't have any idea how that impacts a single relevant thing in our government. The only issue is that he lied about it. I personally have no objections with our president sticking fine cigars in the collective twats of fine females the country wide, as long as his policies are fair and help make the government a better place. But, maybe that's just me!
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Cheebs said:One thing got over-looked. Indiana. Indiana was won BIG by Bush in 2004. Dem's took the state house there and 3 house seats. If you paid attention to that state during the race one name comes up. EVAN BAYH.
The democrat current senator/former gov. of the red state put A LOT of work in there this race and made it a blue state.
He plans to run for President and is he is a big time moderate, his chances have rose a lot with this campaigning power he used in Indiana this year. Keep an eye on this guy:
Yep...I am so glad to see Hostettler gone especially. I had lived in his his district from the time I was first able to vote until I moved to Chicago a few months ago. Voted against him in 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004...and he won anyway each time. But now he's finally out.
A great change in political power, but I'm still keeping my eye on the lot of them. Sure they have a lot of my views, but then again they did lose the presidency twice to Bush. Have they learned enough now to not squander their advantage?
Happiness with a couple grains of salt describe how I feel right about now.
[edit]Waitaminit, who won Governor in Georgia?
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**** Perdue again!?! I swear he's freakin' invincible!
Happiness with a couple grains of salt describe how I feel right about now.
[edit]Waitaminit, who won Governor in Georgia?
...........
**** Perdue again!?! I swear he's freakin' invincible!
Cheebs said:
considering the gains Democrats made in the latino vote, at least according to polls, over where it was in '04 I think the Democrats risk losing that leverage and that bracket if they're seen as holding immigration legislation hostage over Rumsfeld.
Politically, Rumsfeld has to go, if it doesn't happen the corroding of what's left of W's presidency will only increase, the Dems have no reason to try and use extraordinary circumstances to force him out, particularly since with Rumsfeld there they can always continually point to Bush following failed strategy.
We gotta play nice to Lieberman for now, at least till he votes for Majority Leader Harry Reid.Matt_C said:Hellz yeah, same here brotha
To whoever voted for Lieberman :lol You guys deserve him. Us gamers should of banded together to vote this joker out, but nooo he somehow crawled back in.
Learn2read
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People are right that even with the House and (hopefully) the Senate, the Dems can't transform the country overnight. Pelosi's first 100 hours are a good start:
All decent stuff. But having even a slim majority means that you get to run the committees, which means:
SOEPENA POWER.
That doesn't mean impeachment hearings day one, but the Republican congress have been negligent in their oversight responsibilities for the past 6 years, and now all that shit can be brought to light (the build up to Iraq, Iraq contracts, corruption etc.)...
All decent stuff. But having even a slim majority means that you get to run the committees, which means:
SOEPENA POWER.
That doesn't mean impeachment hearings day one, but the Republican congress have been negligent in their oversight responsibilities for the past 6 years, and now all that shit can be brought to light (the build up to Iraq, Iraq contracts, corruption etc.)...
You know it's weird living in Montgomery County. Before the Kerry election I would have placed this place as a Republican stronghold, yet in both the presidential and this mid-term I've discovered that this county is STRONGLY democratic.
BTW we've elected the first black county executive in this county.
Only 10% of this county is black BTW.
EDIT: Hmm Pelosi at least seems to be making all the right sounds...
BTW we've elected the first black county executive in this county.
Only 10% of this county is black BTW.
EDIT: Hmm Pelosi at least seems to be making all the right sounds...
Learn2read
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Cheebs said:I wouldn't call 234-201 a slim majority.
Hehe
itsinmyveins
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I wish I was american right now, cause then I'd be able to vote on the democrats.
Learn2read
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ToxicAdam said:
but what if I need to drive my car to Nowhere?
http://www.wherescasey.com/index2.html
Where's Bob Casey, you ask? Why, he's on his way to the Senate in a short while!
:lol
Honestly, it's amazing how many events Casey simply didn't show up to, yet he still won last night by a pretty large margin. PA just hates Rick.
Where's Bob Casey, you ask? Why, he's on his way to the Senate in a short while!
:lol
Honestly, it's amazing how many events Casey simply didn't show up to, yet he still won last night by a pretty large margin. PA just hates Rick.
ferrarimanf355
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Diablos said:
I'm in shock over that. Did The Hammer really say that???
But, but, he gave us the series of tubes, and that has to count for something...ToxicAdam said:
Guileless
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I for one welcome our new Democratic overlords. It's a wonder what competent candidates can do (i.e. those smart enough to emulate President Clinton's campaign strategy.) It only took the Democratic party 10 years to remember how to win. I'm looking forward to seeing what the much-needed new blood in the legislative leadership comes up with.
In other news, I'm selling my Diebold stock.
In other news, I'm selling my Diebold stock.
ferrarimanf355
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Well, the National Organization for Women will be having a party at the Chippendales club soon...
http://www.now.org/press/11-06/11-08.html
http://www.now.org/press/11-06/11-08.html
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