Official NFL Week 1 Thread: It's the start of something....Special.
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bionic77 said:
Most ironic part, Harrison was selected by the Pats for the Ed Block Courage award.
The honor is bestowed annually upon the player who, according to his teammates, best exemplifies the principles of courage and sportsmanship while also serving as a source of inspiration.
:lol :lol
The sad thing is on that team Harrison might actually have most sportsmanship and courage (mainly because the team is made up of a bunch of satan worshipping cheaters) on the Pats.Tamanon said:
God I hate the Patriots and Tom Brady. Peyton's humiliation of Tom Tom and Bill was the sports highlight of last year and made me a Manning fan (for now).
You would never get a job as an offensive coordinator of the Raiders with your antiquated thinking.Karakand said:
There is no more need for a backfield anymore. Backs went out of fashion along with horse drawn carriages at the turn of the century. The team of the future is going to employ only quarterbacks, receivers, safteies, and cornerbacks. If only you could see the future the way the Raiders and Lions can see it (John Gruden is also one of the visionaries). Everyone always says the quarterback is the most important position in football, so it only makes sense to have as many on the field at the same time as possible.
Uncle Al is a football visionary and using two qbs at once is just the first step to a game that will be played with jetpacks and laserbeams.
iapetus said:Got my last fantasy draft of the season coming up in two hours - the GAF EA fantasy league. Hope everyone's planning on being there for the live draft.
I sadly won't be around for the whole draft. I should be able to get my first three picks in live, but then I have to drive home from work. Doh...
I'm taking LT with my first pick if you're wondering.
I would argue that the Silver and Black have not abandoned running the ball, counselor. Their "big" free agent signing was Dominic Rhodes and they spent a draft pick gambling on a high-risk, high-return running back (Michael Bush). They even used a LOL pick on a fullback from a LOL football program. (Though those last 2 pieces of evidence could perhaps indicate the team has decided to go full-on Redskin copycat when it comes to the draft rather than continuing to support a ground attack on offense.)bionic77 said:
If anything they've given up on the idea of an offensive line. I mean, who wants to waste a spot on the field for positions that can't contribute to scoring points? Not I said the spider to the fly.
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iapetus said:Damn it, and there I was hoping he'd fall to third.
You'll find a nice consolation prize barring something unexpected at the third pick. At least if you go by what KUBIAK says.
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Striker said:
Seymour is constantly double blocked. Basically he gets double teamed on every play freeing up Warren to post impressive numbers. Don't get me wrong, Warren is great, but a lot of it is due to the impact Seymour has on the field.
sorryaboutdresden said:
Josh Scobee will still be available?
(Seriously, though, I'm hand-modifying KUBIAK to avoid some players I've picked in my other fantasy leagues that I wasn't too happy with or don't want to rely on too much... Mister Betts, we're looking at you here...)sorryaboutdresden
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iapetus said:Josh Scobee will still be available?
Hahaha Scobee is one of my kickers. The other is the monster GOSTKOWSKI whom I have in the United GAF League. But, I think you know who I'm talking about. KUBIAK is sky high on Mr. Betts, but its really too hard to predict what's going on in the heads of Gibb's and his legion of coordinators and assistants to make a good prediction of Bett's carries.
Well, like I said in the Fantasy Football thread itself, KUBIAK isn't a draft board so hand modifying it is absolutely recommended.
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I need the Jags to give the rock to MJD. I love the guy, I'm just nervous he isn't going to get enough carries.
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Karakand said:
I've been the conductor of that train.... well maybe not on here, but my friends constantly make fun of me for my man-crush on him. Besides, you can make room for one more. MJD's got enough love for all of us.
Well, given that we're having a Football Outsiders love-in anyway, here are the DVOA projections for 2007 (adjusted for recent changes such as the mysterious vanishment of Byron Leftwich...)
Full article, including explanation of some of the odder looking results, and which ones they believe (Jacksonville, Green Bay, Chicago for real, New Orleans not...)
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[b]RANK TEAM DVOA RANK OFF. DEF. ST.[/b]
1 NE 31.90% 1 1 9 7
2 PHI 26.00% 2 3 12 18
3 JAC 24.70% 3 6 1 19
4 BAL 12.00% 4 11 7 22
5 WAS 11.20% 5 15 4 3
6 TB 10.50% 6 14 5 17
7 CAR 10.50% 7 17 3 5
8 PIT 10.20% 8 19 2 26
9 SD 8.80% 9 4 29 6
10 NYJ 7.80% 10 7 19 12
11 IND 7.00% 11 2 32 23
12 GB 5.70% 12 12 8 32
13 CHI 3.80% 13 20 6 2
14 DEN 0.20% 14 9 24 21
15 ATL 0.20% 15 16 11 28
16 SEA 0.10% 16 13 22 16
17 SF -1.50% 17 22 10 14
18 CIN -3.50% 18 8 27 20
19 NYG -3.50% 19 10 25 29
20 NO -4.50% 20 5 31 15
21 BUF -4.70% 21 23 21 1
22 TEN -6.60% 22 18 23 9
23 MIN -9.00% 23 25 16 25
24 DET -9.50% 24 28 13 11
25 CLE -9.70% 25 27 17 10
26 DAL -9.80% 26 26 18 24
27 OAK -12.20% 27 29 15 8
28 MIA -14.30% 28 32 14 4
29 HOU -17.30% 29 21 28 27
30 ARI -18.60% 30 31 20 13
31 STL -24.30% 31 24 30 31
32 KC -25.60% 32 30 26 30Full article, including explanation of some of the odder looking results, and which ones they believe (Jacksonville, Green Bay, Chicago for real, New Orleans not...)
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Karakand said:
True. I liked him a lot coming out of college. I only saw one game of his, but thats where the crush started. I had him on my winning team last year and he's on both my squads this year. So yeah I'm pretty gay for him.
I love the Eagles projected DVOA for this year and Indy's is hilarious. Number 2 offense but 32 defense. I didn't read that article yet, but their book Pro Football Prospectus does their prediction justice. Man the season is so close, I can't wait.
RUSSELL, RAIDERS CLOSE?
USA Today reports that the Oakland Raiders and quarterback JaMarcus Russell, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2007 draft, may be close to a deal.
Russell's uncle and "adviser," Ray Russell told the national daily that the Raiders "realize they have dropped the ball, and they started negotiating in good faith."
He added: "They've done more talking in the last week and a half than the previous three months. It's almost done. It's just a damn shame it's taken this long."
But we're hearing indications that the two sides might not be as close as advertised. And it makes us wonder whether the sudden appearance of progress has anything to do with the fact that recruiter Melvin Bratton has now officially joined Eddie DeBartolo's agency. Since Bratton was instrumental in delivering Russell to the firm of Lock, Metz & Malinovic, Russell could choose to follow Bratton if Russell decides that LMM simply can't get the deal done.
Bratton wisely is saying that Russell won't leave, since the folks at LMM would most definitely cry foul if Russell were to bolt for Bratton and DeBartolo in the near future. Last year, Zeke Sandhu allegedly tried (unsuccessfully) to take 49ers tight end Vernon Davis to Joby Branion of Athletes First, and this resulted in disciplinary actions being pursued against Sandhu and Branion.
Said Bratton, according to Liz Mullen of Sports Business Journal: "I want the Raiders to know and you to put on record: [Russell] is not wavering. He is in a battle right now with the Raiders and he is not going to up and change [agents]."
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Is Russell's uncle a moron? Saying that the negotiations are getting close because the Raiders realized they were wrong? He's an awful negotiator!
USA Today reports that the Oakland Raiders and quarterback JaMarcus Russell, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2007 draft, may be close to a deal.
Russell's uncle and "adviser," Ray Russell told the national daily that the Raiders "realize they have dropped the ball, and they started negotiating in good faith."
He added: "They've done more talking in the last week and a half than the previous three months. It's almost done. It's just a damn shame it's taken this long."
But we're hearing indications that the two sides might not be as close as advertised. And it makes us wonder whether the sudden appearance of progress has anything to do with the fact that recruiter Melvin Bratton has now officially joined Eddie DeBartolo's agency. Since Bratton was instrumental in delivering Russell to the firm of Lock, Metz & Malinovic, Russell could choose to follow Bratton if Russell decides that LMM simply can't get the deal done.
Bratton wisely is saying that Russell won't leave, since the folks at LMM would most definitely cry foul if Russell were to bolt for Bratton and DeBartolo in the near future. Last year, Zeke Sandhu allegedly tried (unsuccessfully) to take 49ers tight end Vernon Davis to Joby Branion of Athletes First, and this resulted in disciplinary actions being pursued against Sandhu and Branion.
Said Bratton, according to Liz Mullen of Sports Business Journal: "I want the Raiders to know and you to put on record: [Russell] is not wavering. He is in a battle right now with the Raiders and he is not going to up and change [agents]."
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Is Russell's uncle a moron? Saying that the negotiations are getting close because the Raiders realized they were wrong? He's an awful negotiator!
Football Outsiders is sometimes strange.
Their stat lines last season had the Giants OL in the top five in terms of both rushing and pass protection.
Yet when they related with a FOX Sports OL rankings, they put them in the 20's.
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That speaks volumes.
Their stat lines last season had the Giants OL in the top five in terms of both rushing and pass protection.
Yet when they related with a FOX Sports OL rankings, they put them in the 20's.
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There will always be double teams, but the guy had DOUBLE the amount of tackles and nearly twice the sacks.sorryaboutdresden said:
That speaks volumes.
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Striker said:
I'm not saying that Warren isn't a great player just that you can't fully judge Seymour by his conventional statistics.
The main reason they point to a decline for the Giants Oline is a lack of consistency in terms of their starters. According to them, consistency is a crucial aspect of an offensive lines play and you guys lost Petitgout and Bob Whitfield and Diehl is moving to tackle isn't he? I'd say thats a pretty big shake up with the line's personnel.
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i am trying to understand how the rams offense ranks 24th? and the special teams wont be that low i guarantee it. we have a good kicker, punter and dante hall. the coverage is iffy but we aren't 31st best.
My first year at UCLA was his last season there. So many fond memories.sorryaboutdresden said:
DON'T WATCH CYAN DON'T WATCH
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NEL4eO3Nnvs
Major moron. If anything the Raiders have the advantage in negotiations now that LOLpepper doesn't look like he's special needs and McCown looking alright.Tamanon said:
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sorryaboutdresden said:
Whitfield was a spot starter so forget him.
The guys that played on the line from left to right were Luke, Diehl, O'Hara, Snee, McKenzie. And on top of that, we would play Rich Seubert at TE when we needed more meat for blocking for Tiki.
Lose Luke.
OLine is now, from left to right, Diehl, Seubert, O'Hara, Snee, McKenzie.
Seubert was already in there anyway, for us. That is why we Giants fans feel slighted when people rip our OLine. It's essentially the same line as last year.
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The DVOA thing has me confused, at least when it comes to KC's defensive ranking. I mean, I know we were ranked around 15th in the league last season, and it's widely agreed that we could have a top 10 D this year.
But that site has us at 26th?
And it has the team with LJ offensively ranked at 30th?
I won't dismiss the site entirely but I'm guessing that there's a lot of other things that play into it that are based more on opinion (like "Coaching Experience") than actual number-crunching brain activity.
But that site has us at 26th?
And it has the team with LJ offensively ranked at 30th?
I won't dismiss the site entirely but I'm guessing that there's a lot of other things that play into it that are based more on opinion (like "Coaching Experience") than actual number-crunching brain activity.
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PantherLotus said:
Football Outsiders said:
And yet at the beginning of the article/website/method of calculation this person describes this being completely based on stats with no manual manipulation. Clearly, it's a lie. I certainly won't say the projections are completely wrong, but if they're right, it won't be because of this calculation; it will be because they were manipulated to fit expectations.
Basically, bullshit.
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PantherLotus said:
No. Coaching experience and other subjective things don't come into it at all. Their projections have LJ taking a pretty massive fall in production, based on the fact that most backs who rush as many times as he did last season have a big drop off (or injury) the following year.
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