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[Slayven]

I wish people would read shit before signing it.

 

[tokkun]

I'll also have you know I already have a BA in philosophy with a 3.8GPA and going into my senior year of nursing (i am an accelerated student) with a 3.7GPA. So yea believe what you want about marijuana or "drugs" in general, but try not to be so god damn judgmental in the process

Oh, yeah, a BA in philosophy. That ought to shatter the pot smoker stereotypes.

 

[Fenderputty]

I don't know why my old thread is so amusing to some of you. I was worried about drug testing before I started nursing school (understandable, since I learned in that thread that it is common practice in many nursing schools), but the school told us we wouldn't be tested. However, since some hospitals have recently asked for their students to be drug tested, the Dean thought it would only be fair to drug test everyone. So now, probably in a few months, they will be dropping a drug test on us. I'll also have you know I already have a BA in philosophy with a 3.8GPA and going into my senior year of nursing (i am an accelerated student) with a 3.7GPA. So yea believe what you want about marijuana or "drugs" in general, but try not to be so god damn judgmental in the process

I guess the point is... what did you expect to happen even assuming you became a licensed nurse? Any hospital or doctor's office that hired you would drug test you anyway. And if you were planning on quitting the weed anyway after school I don't see the problem, quit now. If you weren't planning to use the license or were planning on gambling with it to avoid drug tests then you're just an idiot. Either way you don't really deserve much sympathy.

Pretty much.

 

[TUSR]

I hope this thread doesn't turn into a debate about doctors who smoke.

 

[Ravensmash]

I dont trust marijuana smokers.

They smoke and use it as an excuse to act like a fucking idiot

Or...

People see fucking idiots smoking it and then generalise a fairly diverse group of people.

You wouldn't say that you 'don't trust' people who consume beer because a minority of (often already stupid) people act silly or even violent on it.

 

[joe2187]

Do you hold the same standard to all alcohol drinkers?

yes

 

[To Far Away Times]

I do think its kinda sad that drug tests really are just pot tests.

The hard drugs that can really hurt you leave your system in a few days, but pot stays there for a long time.

 

[CrankyJay]

I am in nursing school! Testing everyone, which I think is kind of weird. I guess drug use among nurses is pretty common. This isn't a private school btw, and we have to pay 50$ for it !

Probably shouldn't be doing drugs if you're going to be taking care of people.

 

[Jenov]

I hope this thread doesn't turn into a debate about doctors who smoke.

What debate is there to be had? If you value your career as a health professional, you shouldn't be smoking up to get high on a regular basis because drug tests are a standard procedure in the industry.

 

[SugarDaddy]

I just got an email saying all students will be drug tested. However, it doesn't say WHEN which is KILLING me! You guys think they will send me another e-mail warning me and giving me at least +30 days (which is how long it takes for cannabis to exit your system iirc). I'm afraid I'm going to randomly get an email saying it will be in a week or something crazy. No hard drugs btw, but shit I wouldn't be worried if I did those since those leave your system in a few days..

GAF please comfort me

Seriously OP, take another bong rip and mellow out. It's out of your control.

 

[TUSR]

What debate is there to be had? If you value your career as a health professional, you shouldn't be smoking up to get high on a regular basis because drug tests are a standard procedure in the industry.

I mean cigarettes silly

 

[Mohonky]

You wouldn't say that you 'don't trust' people who consume beer because a minority of (often already stupid) people act silly or even violent on it.

I've never met anyone who was not intolerable after a few drinks.

So errr yeh.

Also lol @ any one who said marijuana is not addictive. Seriously? Pro-Marijuana camps are always annoyingly delusion....bbbbbut bbbbut alcoholz, tobaccoz!! They're all bad for you, what's your fucking point?

 

[xxracerxx]

I've never met anyone who was not intolerable after a few drinks.

Seriously? You have never, and I mean NEVER, met someone that you can't be around after they have had a few drinks over the course of the evening?

Complete shit or you are still underage/college.

 

[hachi]

Alcohol, coffee, chocolate, prescription pills. Hope you never consumed any of those, because they are all drugs.

Heh, puritans.

Precisely. Anyone jumping on the OP without knowing the details of his use is remarkably simpleminded.

In professional settings, I'm surrounded by heavy caffeine intake, notable users of ADHD medication, and an overwhelming majority who goes drinking regularly to relax. Chemical modifications are all around. The most harmful effects I've seen have often not been from the illegal variety, but from friends or lovers on prescribed antidepressants or related medications.

Sure, I've called out a friend before for falling into a trap of daily pot use, but that kind of thing depends heavily on context, and we hardly know personal details of the OP here. Some of the most brilliant and successful individuals I've known will use pot from time to time to relax; if you think that's somehow on another level from alcohol use or various prescribed medications individuals use to cope, I'd like to see what kind of world you live in.

 

[IISANDERII]

Just remember this isn't some modern day witch hunt, they're doing it because they're concerned about your well-being.

If that were really the case, they would be far more concerned with prescription medication usage. Hell, even alcohol is more risky than weed.

 

[Slayven]

The debate is whether testing for marijuana, which is one of the most harmless of the commonly used recreational drugs around (including being lower on the scale than the very much legal alcohol), should be relevant to job performance. It's about morals. Yes, if you're a nurse, you probably shouldn't because they test in that industry. But there is a HUGE debate as to whether that's just a waste of time and immoral besides to test for marijuana use in the first place.

Not just about job performance, it's an insurance liability. Fuck up on a patient and they will check your blood.

 

[JohnDoe]

I've never met anyone who was not intolerable after a few drinks.

So errr yeh.

Also lol @ any one who said marijuana is not addictive. Seriously? Pro-Marijuana camps are always annoyingly delusion....bbbbbut bbbbut alcoholz, tobaccoz!! They're all bad for you, what's your fucking point?

I...I...
I'm out.

 

[RionaaM]

Does your school allow you to carry guns?

Does his school forbide him from carrying guns OUTSIDE? Your analogy makes no sense at all.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

mmmkay?

You are my hero.

 

[Jenov]

If that were really the case, they would be far more concerned with prescription medication usage. Hell, even alcohol is more risky than weed.

To be fair, prescription meds like Amphetamine are commonly tested for at the same time. If you're caught with it in your system without a prescription you'll suffer the same consequences.

 

[xxracerxx]

To be fair, prescription meds like Amphetamine are commonly tested for at the same time. If you're caught with it in your system without a prescription you'll suffer the same consequences.

Yeah, who is saying this is just a test for weed?

 

[cloud_sleep]

Just say no.

 

[oneils]

Nillbog, is this an American nursing school?

Here in canuckistan drug testing is very rare: tearyeyedbeaver.jpg

I think its time you switched to booze.

I like booze.

 

[CrankyJay]

If that were really the case, they would be far more concerned with prescription medication usage. Hell, even alcohol is more risky than weed.

While this may be true it's also easier to test for alcohol than it is for weed in terms of current levels.

 

[Fenderputty]

I've never met anyone who was not intolerable after a few drinks.

So errr yeh.

Also lol @ any one who said marijuana is not addictive. Seriously? Pro-Marijuana camps are always annoyingly delusion....bbbbbut bbbbut alcoholz, tobaccoz!! They're all bad for you, what's your fucking point?

Seriously? You have never, and I mean NEVER, met someone that you can't be around after they have had a few drinks over the course of the evening?

Complete shit or you are still underage/college.

I was thinking pretentious douche.

 

[Ponn]

Yea, no remorse. I will take the nurses handing out medication, monitoring me/others/children drug free m'kay. Certain jobs where wits and judgement should be a priority that directly includes people lives should carry a bit more commitment and concern than the OP is obviously giving it.

 

[SugarDaddy]

I've never met anyone who was not intolerable after a few drinks.

So errr yeh.

Also lol @ any one who said marijuana is not addictive. Seriously? Pro-Marijuana camps are always annoyingly delusion....bbbbbut bbbbut alcoholz, tobaccoz!! They're all bad for you, what's your fucking point?

Wait... This isn't a joke post?

Fine, I'll bite.

I'm guessing the point is that both alcohol and tobacco are perfectly legal when they've both been proven to be a greater detriment to ones health. All three of them are drugs, and its completely hypocritical of somebody to condone one while criticizing the other.

 

[The Jason]

Oh, yeah, a BA in philosophy. That ought to shatter the pot smoker stereotypes.

While this may be true, its also one of the most reading and writing intensive majors, so it does prove a point.

 

[Fenderputty]

Wait... This isn't a joke post?

Fine, I'll bite.

I'm guessing the point is that both alcohol and tobacco are perfectly legal when they've both been proven to be a greater detriment to ones health. All three of them are drugs, and its completely hypocritical of somebody to condone one while criticizing the other.

That's his point. He's criticising all three. Hence the reason I called him a pretentious douche.

 

[TigerKnee]

But doing drugs is?

Hell yeah. Drugs are fucking awesome you SQUARE.

 

[bro1]

Wait, this is for college? And a nursing program? What the hell were you thinking? Couldn't just have a beer?

 

[Hale-XF11]

Wait, this is for college? And a nursing program? What the hell were you thinking? Couldn't just have a beer?

Yeah, OP. Couldn't you just get to the back of the bus like the rest of them?

 

[SugarDaddy]

Wait, this is for college? And a nursing program? What the hell were you thinking? Couldn't just have a beer?

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

:lol

 

[xxracerxx]

Wait, this is for college? And a nursing program? What the hell were you thinking? Couldn't just have a beer?

Yeah, OP. Couldn't you just get to the back of the bus like the rest of them?

Holy fuck, this might be the worst analogy I have ever seen on GAF.

Well done sir, well done.

 

[Stabby McSter]

jizz in the cup instead

 

[InvincibleAgent]

I don't want a pot-smoker administering my medicine. Serves you right if you get caught.

 

[highrider]

jesus i'm tired of the antiquated attitudes about marijuana. weeds is bad derp.. marijuana offers a superior and less physically damaging high than alcohol for me. it doesn't slow my reactions or mind. it simply enhances life. your own personal experience may have sucked with weed, or maybe you never touched the stuff. but please believe, you do not know what the fuck you are talking about.

as to the op, you knew the risks involved using an illegal drug. you should already have a plan for this bullshit.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Holy fuck, this might be the worst analogy I have ever seen on GAF.

Well done sir, well done.

Oh really? Because I consider the war on drugs (aka the war on people who use weed) to be the greatest single civil rights violation since slavery. Forgive me if I'm intolerant of other people's intolerance and discrimination towards people who smoke pot and have no problem with the 800,000+ arrests that occur every year, mostly minorities. Yeah, I have a problem with that and the legal incarceration and enslavement of those who haven't done harm to others.

 

[xxracerxx]

Oh really? Because I consider the war on drugs (aka the war on people who use weed) to be the greatest single civil rights violation since slavery. Forgive me if I'm intolerant of other people's intolerance and discrimination towards people who smoke pot and have no problem with the 800,000+ arrests that occur every year, mostly minorities. Yeah, I have a problem with that and the legal incarceration and enslavement of those who haven't done harm to others.

Woah woah woah. You find drug rights to be more of a civil rights violation than gay rights?

And next time you use the back of the bus thing, make sure you write out WHY you are using that. I had no idea you actually felt like it was a civil rights violation until you posted about it.

 

[joe2187]

Yeah, OP. Couldn't you just get to the back of the bus like the rest of them?

Another example of my theory

 

[Jenov]

Oh really? Because I consider the war on drugs (aka the war on people who use weed) to be the greatest single civil rights violation since slavery. Forgive me if I'm intolerant of other people's intolerance and discrimination towards people who smoke pot and have no problem with the 800,000+ arrests that occur every year, mostly minorities. Yeah, I have a problem with that and the legal incarceration and enslavement of those who haven't done harm to others.

I find it hard to take you seriously if you think African American's civil rights movement is the same ballpark as pot smokers seeking legalization....

 

[Snkfanatic]

I don't want a pot-smoker administering my medicine. Serves you right if you get caught.

Is this a serious post? Wow

 

[way more]

I have no issue with my nurse taking bong rips after a hard week of work, the same way I'm fine if my doctor has a bottle of wine with dinner.

 

[Phoenix]

Some schools drug test kids who do activities (I believe legally they have to do it for every activity even if they only care about the sports teams).

I can't imagine any school requiring any form of testing without specific consent from the parents. Even as students, you have rights to privacy under the law and your medical information is protected by HIPPA. As with others, I am curious under what grounds the school feels it can test you.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Woah woah woah. You find drug rights to be more of a civil rights violation than gay rights?

And next time you use the back of the bus thing, make sure you write out WHY you are using that. I had no idea you actually felt like it was a civil rights violation until you posted about it.

Fair enough and point taken.

But consider this, gay people aren't arrested for being gay and being with their partners on the scale that I mentioned in regards to marijuana, are they?

Thing is, I look at it as a civil rights issue, mainly in regards to the reasons I cited in my previous post. I believe (just as with gay rights) that everyone has the right to do what he or she wants to do with their own body as long as nobody else is being harmed.

I find it hard to take you seriously if you think African American's civil rights movement is the same ballpark as pot smokers seeking legalization....

Don't you consider telling other adults what they can and can't do with their own bodies as being a civil rights issue??

Another example of my theory

Don't you have anything to add to the conversation or is that all you have to say?

 

[SugarDaddy]

I have no issue with my nurse taking bong rips after a hard week of work, the same way I'm fine if my doctor has a bottle of wine with dinner.

Amen brutha.

 

[CrAzYLeGzLU]

They did this when I was in nursing school. They told us at the start of the semester that they would be doing it and we had to pay by a certain date.

About a month later after our lunch break they gathered everyone in the hallway without warning, and had us lined up in front of the bathrooms taking turns. Someone was in there the whole time and you had a time limit (like 3 minutes I think) and there was a strip on the side of the bottle that made sure the piss was the right temperature it was a very odd experience for sure.

If anyone missed that day there was a second test a day or so later that was mandatory to stay in the program.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Alcohol, coffee, chocolate, prescription pills. Hope you never consumed any of those, because they are all drugs.

Heh, puritans.

1 of 4 not too bad.

 

[The Jason]

I don't want a pot-smoker administering my medicine. Serves you right if you get caught.

I personally know a few working nurses that smoke weed, chances are you already have been.

Also prescription drugs are a bigger problem in the medical field.

 

[elsk]

Thing is, I look at it as a civil rights issue, mainly in regards to the reasons I cited in my previous post. I believe (just as with gay rights) that everyone has the right to do what he or she wants to do with their own body as long as nobody else is being harmed.

Of course, because the hundreds of people killed each day by the drug dealers don't count!

Don't fool yourself, paying for drugs is financing terrorists even worse than the ones you're fighting in the Irak/Afghanistan.