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[BlastProcessing]

the Atari did not cost more than the Vectrex. What is this.

Inflation.

They both launched at $200 but the Atari launched in 77 and the Vectrex in 82. That was a particularly bad time for inflation. There was a Gas Crisis, then the Savings and Loan Collapse, then a giant recession. From 77 to 82 inflation rates where more than 10% a year.

 

[RoboPlato]

I expect them both to be between $399 and $449.

 

[tyrone888]

$299 for both and $70 games.

 

[Pachterballs]

If MS has a subsidised pricing model ala phone, Sony should do it too or face decimation. $499 is okay for me.

 

[Baconsammy]

I thought it was a camera with a processor now...like original Kinect was. Still no?

Did they change that? For some reason I thought the limitation of the first one was having to use USB, and now that they were freed from that they could do a lot more with the same tech. I definitely don't know, though. If a big part of the cost of their console is in Kinect though...as a gamer, yeeeeesh.

 

[Celcius]

base prices:
$450 xbox
$499 ps4

 

[Chemo]

$399 across the board.

 

[badcrumble]

I agree, and I think Durango will have a gimp version and/or subsidized version, potentially of each. Orbis may have a gimp version but definitely nothing subsidized.

But the more I think about it, I'm not sure what they could really gimp. HDD space kinda hurts their other strategies. Can't really be wifi. I dunno.

Orbis could have backwards compatibility on only a high-end SKU.

 

[jvm]

Those are my charts. If you have questions, ask me.

Someone cut up the inflation one to sort by price. Yes I used only cheapest SKU.

On mobile so can't link original on Gamasutra easily.

This is why I watermark now.

 

[Sis Focaccia]

PS4 - $444

 

[UberTag]

399 entry point for both.

MS offering a subsidized plan.

I'm going with this as well. I think the subsidized Xbox price will be $199

This thread had the important responses taken care of quick. Nice work, guys.
The only point I would disagree with is I think the subsidized price for "the new Xbox" could range anywhere from $199-249 and that there will be upper-tier SKUs above that $399 entry level for both platforms.

But aside from that, I think we've got all the bases covered right here.

 

[khustla]

399.99 for both and 99.99 with a membership contract for plus and live

 

[jvm]

Also:

PS4 = $300 with 3 yr service contract or $500 outright
Xbox Next = $250 with 5 yr service contract or modest fee on top of cable subscription

 

[Tobor]

399 entry point for both.

MS offering a subsidized plan.

Second post nailed it.

 

[JaggedSac]

Also:

PS4 = $300 with 3 yr service contract or $500 outright
Xbox Next = $250 with 5 yr service contract or modest fee on top of cable subscription

5 years is excessive. That would be a failure.

 

[Officerrob]

You can't be serious

Very serious. $199 up front for a system that's $399 plus $15 per month for two years with live included. This gives Microsoft the ability to crow about a $199 price tag, it gets the consumer onto live (where they will probably buy more crap), and they make more than if the pieces were bought non subsidized. Non subsidized is $400 + $60 X 2= $520. Subsidized is 200 + $15 X 24= $560

 

[blitzcloud]

playstation 3 was 300$ on LAUNCH?

Fuck Europe(Spain)

It was 75.000 pesetas = 450€

 

[panty]

playstation 3 was 300$ on LAUNCH?

Fuck Europe(Spain)

It was 75.000 pesetas = 450€

649€ or so in Finland.

 

[AgentP]

BTW people keep using the word "subsidize", when they mean the subscription model.

If MS sells you a $500 console for $300, that is subsidized. If you pay $15/month for two years and $200 upfront, that is like a loan - MS is making more money, the opposite of subsidized.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

BTW people keep using the word "subsidize", when they mean the subscription model.

If MS sells you a $500 console for $300, that is subsidized. If you pay $15/month for two years and $200 upfront, that is like a loan - MS is making more money, the opposite of subsidized.

Herp de derp. Nope.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

$400-500 seems to be the sweet spot for performance & adoption.

 

[Conflict NZ]

I wouldn't mind a USD 400 Basic/500 premium if it meant having a huge leap in tech. Of course they could always do 100 with a 2 year gold subscription.

 

[SpinningBirdKick]

If either come in at more than £300 they're going to find it very tough going.

 

[Lo-Volt]

If a good model was available on day 1 for $300 I would jump for joy, but Sony and Microsoft released consoles costing, in some cases, far more and consumers and that didn't destroy their long-term appeal.

But I also hope they're sensitive to our wallets as well as theirs (producing the PS3 in the early days was an astonishingly expensive thing for Sony). I think $400 is the new $300 (fans reacted well to the original PlayStation being released at that price, no? It wasn't cheap, but it was portrayed as a fair price for a capable piece of hardware; that's the balance to aim for this time).

 

[Killing_Joke]

You guys are being generous. The subsidized xbox will be $250-$299 easily.

 

[Lynn616]

Those Microsoft leaked docs said $299.

 

[mackattk]

Dreamcast was amazing for $200 launch price.

Going to guess 400/450 for next gen consoles