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OUYA - A new $99 console powered by Android [Kickstarter ended, $8.5 million funded]
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There was no incentive to start with.
DangerousDave
Member
Steam is nothing without games. Making port of games to Mac or Linux is much more easy (but still very difficult, specially with AAA games) so someone can expect the Steam library on Mac or Linux to grow over time with new games (obviously, most devs won't bother to make late ports to Mac or Linux).
Porting the control method is not the problem here, is to port a PC-based engine to android, and with a machine that has the specs of a very low-end PC.
Blueandigo
Banned
That means I could get all my old PS1, N64, SNES, and Sega games on this? That's sweet. Where do I sign up?
The specs are comparable to the consoles and tablets where many people (including gaffers!) now do their the majority of their gaming. That's what matters. Either Valve sticks to the closed platforms and die or they stake a place in the next generation
DangerousDave
Member
Do you really think that Valve will port his entire catalog (and more importart, most of the current devs that publish their games on Steam) will start porting the games on Ouya? Do you know the costs of port a single PC game on Android? Most of the games of Steam are not currently working with a PC with the specs of Ouya. Is very difficult to port any medium-sized game, and completly impossible to port any AAA game.
This is as naive as believing that, when Gabe announced Steamworks on PS3, that meaned that you would be able to play all the Steam catalog on PS3.
No, I don't think Valve will be doing any of the things (the actions I suggested should be a longterm strategy) anytime soon.
demigod
Member
This is funny coming from you. Just a few pages back you thought devs were going to put AAA titles on Ouya. I'm sorry but, having OnLive on there is not the same as a publisher backing the console by porting AAA titles on there.
GameplayWhore
Member
Valve sucks, Ouya sucks, OnLive sucks, GAF sucks.
Krypton sucks.
As an aside, I was incredibly close to clicking in on this, but I was tossed off the fence when I learned that store access is disabled if you want to tinker at all with the device.
Because OnLive is garbage?
everthustodeadbeats
Member
Was in for a Ouya, but I'm out thanks to this OnLive thing.
OnLive is awful and it's now just an OnLive box. Meh.
OnLive is awful and it's now just an OnLive box. Meh.
Dreamwriter
Member
But that's exactly what I'm saying. Why would a developer port, say, DarkSiders II to the Ouya, when it's already on there in the form of OnLive? And if a AAA game isn't on OnLive, there still isn't any incentive to release it any more, because rather than being uncommon in the early days, there's going to be dozens of them on the device from day one.
Hahahaha
and that sucks, but if you un-root or re-stock the device can you regain store access? I'd probably end up buying two if I wanted to mess with it that badly though since they're cheap.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
It doesn't change anything other than being an actual addition.
Dreamwriter
Member
Yeah, and they said they were going to make it easy to un-root the device after rooting it (of course, then you lose anything you installed while rooted).
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
If the Ouya somehow brings more attention to developers in porting their games to OnLive I would be really happy.
OK, I think I've got it now...
Ouya - Android based gaming platform. They don't plan to use Google Play store
Onlive - Will have it's platform on Ouya (Android), and it's store of games.
Gabe Newell doesn't like Windows 8, is working on other platforms.
Blizzard Exec doesn't like Windows 8 either
Google, is running fiber to KC and hopefully future locations. The already have Google TV. They are deploying a TV box, a network box, etc with their Google Fiber. They have a 200 dollar tablet, and they have some other media gizmo out there now.
Why the heck, Google which owns Android, why aren't they making a game system?
They could own Ouya, make it part of their own package and replace multiple other boxes out there. They could put money towards Online and Steam and anything else. People would jump on board. - Google - Jump On Board! (hahahaha)
Google - Buys Ouya, Onlive, teams up with Valve (steam), Activision, and EA. Done.
Think about this for a minute. Isn't there a large percent of people that watch streaming video and use other apps on the Xbox? Why would they do that when they have a great system for playing video games, with still leading edge console current gen graphics? Why do people game on their mobile devices, and not hook them up to their TV's to watch movies and play games that much? You can get cheap adapters, HDMI cables, for a couple years now. I don't know anyone that hardly does this. You can use bluetooth keyboard and mice, yet not many do that either. Why do people stream lesser quality video on their big HD TV's when they could watch DVD or watch Blu-ray movies?
Usability and easy access to media.
The xbox, you can turn it on and do many things. Why shut it down, switch discs, change to PS3 to watch bluray, when you can just open Netflix or Amazon prime apps and watch thousands of TV and movies, and all the other options on Xbox Live. Why shutdown your console, switch HDMI connection on your TV, and use Apple TV? Yes people can be lazy. However, people have been asking for this for YEARS. They don't want discs, they want easy access to media. Supposedly they download crap, illegally, because it is easier for them and the companies were not previously giving them other EASIER options than downloading illegally.. HBO, Game of Thrones, no streaming = highest downloaded illegal show. So now the platforms are being created and people are using them, because this is what they want.
There is a reason EA doesn't want to be on steam, they want their own platform to lock you into sales. There is a reason people don't want to leave Apple devices, even though they cost more, they want their already purchased media and apps.
Google has the money, they have the platform, they have the network infrastructure, the have all the media services. Imagine checking your mail and viewing your calendar from a console, if you wanted as well. Google Now when you fire up your system. Everything is there or in the works.
If Google doesn't get into gaming, they are losing people to other platforms. It is not about just games, it is about all the other media Google, MS, and Apple are competing against, and games will take people away to other platforms because - Usability and easy access to media.
Ouya - Android based gaming platform. They don't plan to use Google Play store
Onlive - Will have it's platform on Ouya (Android), and it's store of games.
Gabe Newell doesn't like Windows 8, is working on other platforms.
Blizzard Exec doesn't like Windows 8 either
Google, is running fiber to KC and hopefully future locations. The already have Google TV. They are deploying a TV box, a network box, etc with their Google Fiber. They have a 200 dollar tablet, and they have some other media gizmo out there now.
Why the heck, Google which owns Android, why aren't they making a game system?
They could own Ouya, make it part of their own package and replace multiple other boxes out there. They could put money towards Online and Steam and anything else. People would jump on board. - Google - Jump On Board! (hahahaha)
Google - Buys Ouya, Onlive, teams up with Valve (steam), Activision, and EA. Done.
Think about this for a minute. Isn't there a large percent of people that watch streaming video and use other apps on the Xbox? Why would they do that when they have a great system for playing video games, with still leading edge console current gen graphics? Why do people game on their mobile devices, and not hook them up to their TV's to watch movies and play games that much? You can get cheap adapters, HDMI cables, for a couple years now. I don't know anyone that hardly does this. You can use bluetooth keyboard and mice, yet not many do that either. Why do people stream lesser quality video on their big HD TV's when they could watch DVD or watch Blu-ray movies?
Usability and easy access to media.
The xbox, you can turn it on and do many things. Why shut it down, switch discs, change to PS3 to watch bluray, when you can just open Netflix or Amazon prime apps and watch thousands of TV and movies, and all the other options on Xbox Live. Why shutdown your console, switch HDMI connection on your TV, and use Apple TV? Yes people can be lazy. However, people have been asking for this for YEARS. They don't want discs, they want easy access to media. Supposedly they download crap, illegally, because it is easier for them and the companies were not previously giving them other EASIER options than downloading illegally.. HBO, Game of Thrones, no streaming = highest downloaded illegal show. So now the platforms are being created and people are using them, because this is what they want.
There is a reason EA doesn't want to be on steam, they want their own platform to lock you into sales. There is a reason people don't want to leave Apple devices, even though they cost more, they want their already purchased media and apps.
Google has the money, they have the platform, they have the network infrastructure, the have all the media services. Imagine checking your mail and viewing your calendar from a console, if you wanted as well. Google Now when you fire up your system. Everything is there or in the works.
If Google doesn't get into gaming, they are losing people to other platforms. It is not about just games, it is about all the other media Google, MS, and Apple are competing against, and games will take people away to other platforms because - Usability and easy access to media.
Ghost Dad the Whip
Member
are you applauding your own console war slash fiction post?
The controller does not look comfortable in the pic they have revealed, id like to get a look at it's backside (if you catch my drift).
The controller does not look comfortable in the pic they have revealed, id like to get a look at it's backside (if you catch my drift).
VGChampion
Member
Oh man, that GIF is even funnier now.
And I don't like the controller either. Still can't decide if I want to stay a backer or not. The potential is there but what's being done I still don't like. Especially that rooting gets rid of the store deal. I really think that could kill the store because most will probably root.
demigod
Member
lol yes it is. Self congratulations!
dude... u don't clap to your own posts.
Its just so weird. I read the post about some huge google takeover and was confused that anyone would use that GIF afterwards. Then I saw who posted the response and was blown away. Its like he forgot he made that post then though it was GENIUS!
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I thought his post then gif post combo was great.
You forgot to switch to your alt-account.
DiscoJer
Member
I don't think AAA games were ever coming to the Ouya, simply because there is no place to put them. With 8 gigs of storage, you could fit one AAA game, that's it.
But for the same price you can get a Google TV with OnLive. Granted you'll need to buy the controller extra ... but still.
GrayFoxPL
Member
shira
Member
Do you like your own Facebook posts
Haunted
Member
indeed.
Rearrange Select/Start/Home and slap a touchscreen in the middle and call it a day.
daaamn
GameplayWhore
Member
They did slap a touchpad in the middle. Does that count?
TheNatural
My Member!
I just bought one of those Android sticks a couple days ago.
Anyone know if this Ouya thing will be able to stream things like watchespn.com and Flash video?
Anyone know if this Ouya thing will be able to stream things like watchespn.com and Flash video?
Shogmaster
Member
It's old NOW.
abstract alien
Member
Fritolay, you have my applause as well. Nice post.
abstract alien
Member
Damnit...
In one of the updates they said they were getting an upgraded version of Tegra 3. Not sure what that means though.
RadarScope1
Member
Epic clap.
By the time it releases you'll probably be able to buy chinese usb sticks for $70 that are faster. The only reasons to go for Ouya are the gamepad and the software infrastructure.
Huh? Onlive has sucked since its inception.
Another thing Ouya needs, for the store, and really Google needs for their store, is gift cards. Why the heck have they not done this either? You can buy facebook game gift cards at stores, apple gift cards, Xbox Live gift cards. People like to buy gifts, and they could always buy games in stores for their family members and friends. If you are going digital you need a way for people to walk in a store and support you still.