Those were some fun games, same payload map twice, grats on turning pro. I followed Anne's guide by continuing to be Rein like every game for the past three seasons. Torb!I too followed this strict regiment, and saw results immediately. Thanks Anne!
Edit: good lord the win streak was real. Started off the night 3316. 243 SR for 4 games...
But seriously thank Owzers for the last two games to get me there!
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Stuck in Gold.
50/50 shot of getting teammates that have no mics, and auto pick non-healers/tanks.
Usually stuck being the only healer or tank.
Been around since season 1, next time there's a sale i'm considering a new account to get out of this hole. My friend recently got into the game, and placed into high Platinum despite going 5-4-1 in his placements.
50/50 shot of getting teammates that have no mics, and auto pick non-healers/tanks.
Usually stuck being the only healer or tank.
Been around since season 1, next time there's a sale i'm considering a new account to get out of this hole. My friend recently got into the game, and placed into high Platinum despite going 5-4-1 in his placements.
Work on your mind games for rein v rein and Ult tracking too?
Your main out of our group's range nowI too followed this strict regiment, and saw results immediately. Thanks Anne!
Edit: good lord the win streak was real. Started off the night 3316. 243 SR for 4 games...
But seriously thank Owzers for the last two games to get me there!
?Don't ult into shield don't ult into shield don't ult into shield....Work on your mind games for rein v rein and Ult tracking too?
Your main out of our group's range now
"Whoops"
Also I firestriked a reflecting genji, but I won both Rein-offs I believe, one in particular kept charging and dying whereas I only charged and died the minimum amount of allotted times.
Well mind games usually come more into play when you about to get ult. That's when you know the enemy rein might have ult too. Then it's to see if you can bait out and block his ult.
I too followed this strict regiment, and saw results immediately. Thanks Anne!
Edit: good lord the win streak was real. Started off the night 3316. 243 SR for 4 games...
But seriously thank Owzers for the last two games to get me there!
Wait a minute, doesn't competitive points max out at 6000? How do you have 7200 out of 6000?
I blocked one today doing my standard swing at him once or twice then throw my shield up quickly, my usual play.
So I haven't played in a long while, like maybe a week or two, don't remember. Been mostly playing Horizon Zero Dawn, been fun.
Decided to try to pop Overwatch back in, play a few games, and see if I have any new insights.
My main one is this: Blizzard should take the nerf stick and stick it up Soldier's urethra (on console).
Edit: Maybe I'm just not used to her, but does Orisa suck or something?
Decided to try to pop Overwatch back in, play a few games, and see if I have any new insights.
My main one is this: Blizzard should take the nerf stick and stick it up Soldier's urethra (on console).
Edit: Maybe I'm just not used to her, but does Orisa suck or something?
killdatninja
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Yeah good games, if I can help you guys out this week on my alt let me know!
Work on your mind games for rein v rein and Ult tracking too?
Your main out of our group's range now
Yes
until you guys get there! You would of been proud of owzers rein, he was tearing up the enemy reins. But a Genji deflected a fire strike which killed me when I had a Rez. It kept things interesting.
I had it maxed out by the end of season 3 (6000) then when they gave out rewards, those bonus points are given regardless of you being maxed out.
She sucks quite a bit. She is going to need significant buffs to compete with Reinhardt.
As for Soldier? Yeah, he could use a tweak, but mostly because he obsoletes McCree.
I think he obsolete's all other DPS in general. Isn't picked more on console than every other Offense hero combined. Circumstantially, yeah, someone like Tracer might be better in niche situations, but he's far and away the best overall choice for choice for putting in sheer reliable damage.
I hate him.
That's sad to hear about Orisa. Is she just circumstantial, does she need a good team, or is she just objectively terrible for everybody? I haven't been following along here and I only had one game with her.
As for Reinhardt, I still think they should experiment with dropping his shield HP to a less ridiculous number if they really want to nerf him.
On a more positive note, these are the first few games I am playing with my non-fucked controller and while I see an improvement overall, HOLY CHRIST I CAN ACTUALLY USE GENJI AGAIN
I share all of these sentiments; this is great advice.
yeah i really need to play some more winston now that the bubble is faster
don't forget to watch internethulk's essential winston guide too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-SH75etsxk
don't forget to watch internethulk's essential winston guide too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-SH75etsxk
Terareflection
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I think Orisa is okay if paired with Rein and a good healer. Her Ult pretty good.
Woah....you're not intending to spend them?
killdatninja
Banned
I have two golden guns already... and I don't even have them equipped. Not a fan of the golden weapons, they need to let me buy something else!
And this is the problem. Orisa is supposed to be an excellent alternative to Reinhardt (AKA, a Main Tank), but is incapable of the basic function at the job of tanking.
That's a major balance issue that needs to be addressed.
therealminime
Member
Just had a 3400 SR game where we had Mercy, McCree, Winston, Junkrat, Hanzo, Symmetra defense on Dorado and we won. It was a weird, fun game.
I have very limited time playing her, but the issue I see with her is that she can launch a stationary shield that is on a cooldown recharge that has 900hp. Reinhardt, on the other hand, has a shield that he can move to adapt to a situation that has 2000hp. There are advantages to being able to shoot out your shield ahead of you and all, but I feel that in more situations I'd do more being able to take my shield with me.
So, I feel with the mobility advantage, the numbers should be reversed and Reinhardt should have a weaker shield than Orisa.
Wat. Orisa can shoot and move freely while behind the barrier, Reinhardt can't. It only makes sense her shield has less hp.
Also she has the gravity thing to move people back to the front of her barrier. It would be a nightmare if it had 2k hp
Vault Dweller 111
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Harb begging to get healed for like a solid minute as Pharah hovering above his Mercy
"Check your z axis"
I'm stealing that.
"Check your z axis"
I'm stealing that.
I said the advantage should be reversed, not the exact numbers. Meaning Orisa's shield HP should be greater, but I don't know by how much.
Other than that, I am just offering a very big noobie's opinion. Today was my first time playing since before Orisa was released, so I only have a few games with her. She doesn't seem that effective to me, but others seem to have concluded similarly that she needs work. 2000hp would be overkill, but I definitely consider Reinhardt the superior shield carrier because he actually carries the shield, something far more effective than what Orisa seems to be doing despite being able to use her gun.
But I've also been arguing for a general reduction of Reinhardt's shield HP for a while anyway, so that's another part of it. But with Winston's Dive comp rising, I wonder if that's as necessary as it was before. I'm curious to see how much his Barrier buff really helps him out.
Newtype-001
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NRG still no where to be seen 😑😑😑
But Pmuch all the other big teams but theres also open qualifiers so maybe....
Its gonna b good to see Envy up against NA teams again also nice to see Selfless be an invite team
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NRG still no where to be seen 😑😑😑
But Pmuch all the other big teams but theres also open qualifiers so maybe....
Its gonna b good to see Envy up against NA teams again also nice to see Selfless be an invite team
Instead of my sr going up it keeps going down..... I either need to get good with Pharah and Winston because I can't carry with s76 anymore it seems.
Saw you guys on around 10pm est but you all logged out
Newtype-001
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I thought they said him and iddqd were gonna move to vegas soon or something thought that would have happened by now
Trickster
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I honestly think most of what you describe is common in most ranks. I got placed in mid gold, now close to diamond after around 80 games. I don't use a mic, nor does most people I get grouped with(well, they might say hello at the start of the game, but then they are silent during the game itself). I tend to be one of the people that wait to see what people pick in most games, and 9/10 times I have to pick a healer or tanky hero. However I would stress that I think it's more important to pick a hero you are good with, rather than what might be the best hero in paper.
Ultimately I don't want to say anything definitively, but if you've been around since season 1, and have hovered somewhere in the gold rank, it's most likely that gold is where your level of play is at.
You could always carry with a healer?
Shaďder and mendo are playing from Europe. They should just play.
Crimson_Justice
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I've had great success with Orisa paired with Zarya, at least on defense from what I can remember. When Orisa's shield breaks, Zarya bubbles the Orisa, then Orisa Fortifies after the bubble drops. Zarya can also take the heat for a second with her self-bubble. With some Mercy/Ana healing, the tanks should be able to hold until Orisa's shield is back off CD. During the whole thing, Orisa is dealing constant DPS with that sweet 150 clip and disrupting the enemy's formation with Halt! Rinse and repeat.
Obviously it's not perfect, requires a bit more coordination that just holding up your Rein shield and your Zarya to have your back. But I feel like I contribute a lot more with Orisa on defense than I do with Rein, and I'm a lot more consistent.
Not saying she can replace Rein, but she does have at least one more tank she can pair with other than Rein, from my experience.
Edit: I'd like to try Orisa with a Winston who stays at the hold point. D.Va and Road wouldn't work because of enemy CCs, but Winston's shield, especially with the CD buff, would work better against that. Have him save his bubble only for when Orisa's shield breaks. Probably wouldn't be great, but might be worth experimenting with.
Obviously it's not perfect, requires a bit more coordination that just holding up your Rein shield and your Zarya to have your back. But I feel like I contribute a lot more with Orisa on defense than I do with Rein, and I'm a lot more consistent.
Not saying she can replace Rein, but she does have at least one more tank she can pair with other than Rein, from my experience.
Edit: I'd like to try Orisa with a Winston who stays at the hold point. D.Va and Road wouldn't work because of enemy CCs, but Winston's shield, especially with the CD buff, would work better against that. Have him save his bubble only for when Orisa's shield breaks. Probably wouldn't be great, but might be worth experimenting with.
When I play Zarya I don't like playing with orisa. Hard to get charge off her and some put their barriers in front of me when I go to get charge.
Crimson_Justice
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I'm probably guilty of the first one, don't always notice when I get bubbled and I've probably wasted some just hiding behind my shield. I feel like D.Va has a similar problem with DM.
Halt is too fun for me. Soldier thinking he can sneak through the choke after his team's initiated? Nah let me finish you off. Bastion up top thinking he's safe? Get down here boy. I'm sure fun plays with it are harder to pull off at your rank, but 2500-3000 on console has been a blast providing me with people who don't know how to react to the green ball coming at them.
NeoRaider
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Whatever Blizzard has planned for Overwatch next week is one of the best things the studios worked on since launch
Let's see. I am getting excited tbh.
Let's see. I am getting excited tbh.
What kind of changes do you think would make her more viable? Just more armour or something?
Random idea: I think it would be kind of cool if her alt fire warped the trajectory of nearby bullets/projectiles as a way for her to protect the team from more damage.
I figured I'd try Winston on QP yesterday, since I've seen him become a more common pick recently. It was Attack on King's Row.
The other team are holding the bottleneck quite well. So I figure to jump off the hotel and land on the point with shield up. About four enemy heroes zerg rush me, presumably freeing up space for my team to exploit and push.
...but they don't! They just stay there and don't even try to pressure the other team. The annoying thing was I actually secured the first third of the capture using this tactic alone.
Oh well...
The other team are holding the bottleneck quite well. So I figure to jump off the hotel and land on the point with shield up. About four enemy heroes zerg rush me, presumably freeing up space for my team to exploit and push.
...but they don't! They just stay there and don't even try to pressure the other team. The annoying thing was I actually secured the first third of the capture using this tactic alone.
Oh well...
That's why you need communication. From my experience non-flankers are very reluctant to push past a choke if the enemy Rein is still protecting it.
Newtype-001
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NRGs going to be playing in this months OW monthly melee
https://clips.twitch.tv/GorgeousFrozenDunlinPMSTwin?tt_medium=clips_api&tt_content=url
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DevilDog
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Reposting for visibility
Hopefully he's not exaggerating.
UltimaPooh
Member
God I hope not.
It's already constrained by being the most situational ult in the game. No other hero has an ult that they literally cannot use - as in pressing Q does nothing - without certain criteria already existing on the field.
Wanna' combat rez? Kill Mercy first
or
Bait it out with a double kill - any Mercy worth her salt will pop it for a 2x - then wipe 'em.
Its previous incarnation rendered Mercy C orB tier because no other hero had an ult that was the equivalent of walking onto the point, putting a gun to their own head and saying to their team "make it count - I'll be right back!" Bang!
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