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Pacquiao vs. Bradley |OT| Hope OR Hype? June 9th 9:00 EST
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Mecha_Infantry
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thanks
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As said already in this thread, thisnisnno secret. He openly admitted he would win and the rematch will be necessary
I fell asleep, shit was taking too long for me toasty up
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Does this actually suggest anything besides they were planning to have a rematch either way?
IC_Champion
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BOB ARUM: ""I'm going to make a lot of money on the rematch, but this was outrageous," ESPN
no shame whatsoever
Yeah, I think he's worse than Richard Schaffer. Why doesn't someone interview the judges? I was really pissed at the Rios/Abril fiasco. Hell, one of the judges for that fight, was a judge on this fight as well!
Thank you Desert Storm 6/1 to win by decision!
Even Floyd Sr thinks Pacquiao won.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfeiC1sNGBc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfeiC1sNGBc
Battersea Power Station
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My hat's off to you, good sir. You know your boxing.
IC_Champion
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Man, it's going to be a bittersweet day when Roach receives his HOF ring.
Was confused on why he through his hands up too. Should've known something was weird after Bradley was celebrating victory before the scores were even announced. Plus that "Gonna be so nice we gonna do it twice." tweet from eleven days before the match, wow.
LOL. Only in vegas.
George Claw M.D.
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Depends on your definition of a bad fight. It was certainly boring without the twist ending. Manny completely outclassed Bradley, and you can tell both fighters knew it, just a few rounds in. Manny took his foot off the gas and coasted to what should have been an easy decision. Even if Manny won, I still would've said it was a one-sided, boring fight between two horribly mismatched fighters. I don't see how an upset decision could convince anyone that a second fight will be any more competitive, unless they're actually banking on people paying to see a vindictive Pac get medieval on Bradley's ass.
Did you watch the fight? Because there's a stark contrast between the way Marquez and Pac reacted to their losses. Marquez left the ring in utter disgust without even providing an interview. Manny stuck around, shrugged his shoulders, and patted Bradley on the back, congratulating him with a smile. He admitted to feeling that he won the fight, but he respected the judges' decisions. He handled it better than probably anyone could've imagined, considering how lopsided this fight was compared to Pacquiao vs Marquez 3. It seems like some bitter people really want Manny to feel robbed like they feel Marquez was. But Manny sincerely doesn't give a fuck. And I don't know why people think Pac needs to be punished for being on the winning end of some arguable decisions. It's not like he personally has a hand in any judging corruption. Karma isn't Pac losing via corrupt judging. Karma would be a paid-off judge going rogue, and losing millions of dollars for Arum and all the other inside-bettors. Something like the ending of Lionheart.
IMO, I don't see this really hurting Pacquiao, besides his W-L record. No one will think any less of him for losing a fixed match by decision. In fact, his win over Marquez damaged his unbeatable image more than this loss will. And boxing belts haven't meant shit for a long time, anyway. Manny will still be a money draw with or without a belt. Strip both Manny and Floyd of their belts, and people will still have just as much interest in seeing them fight.
All this decision did was line some fatpockets with cash, and setup an instant rematch to make even more money. And all without having to split any money with Mayweather.
I Stalk Alone
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You know what is sad? You have two guys who are really honest about their boxing and both seem like genuinely honestly down to earth guys who would serve boxing pretty well as ambassadors and the judges have made a mockery of them and disrespected them by giving that poor decision. It will be a hollow victory to bradley and he knows it. Bradley would have been better off as fighter if he lost to manny pacquiao as that is what boxing is all about. The money is great for his family but for his inner self he would be wanting to really prove that win that people now believe he doesn't deserve. I hate boxing sometimes. So many honest fighters that always get played like pawns.
joeygreco1985
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I love you WrestleGAF! that Montreal screw job pic was spot on
Kitschkraft
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I really hate the hate Bradley is receiving...dude fought injured, and he wasn't in there turtle-ing...the decision was bad but damn man. I don't think he was in there relying on some great conspiracy, he seemed surprised by the decision as everyone else with his "I'll need to watch the fight to see if I won" comment. While this comment certainly speaks negatively to his confidence about winning the fight...I actually thought it was decently humble and can't understand disliking him personally because of it. Most would have shown false certainty. And his family situation....woah. Taking care of her and her kids...lol, I don't give a fuck, this guy is a saint.
Also...while Pac won, all the noise is really starting to irritate me. I was wilding out last night but having calmed down a bit I am a little frustrated with some of this stuff. The rematch shit (Tickets, posters, etc) is clearly contract related. Rematch clauses have been apart of the game forever. This is getting into loose change territory for me. If Arum rigged the shit, he certainly just payed off the judges like he always does.
Compubox.....It's a boxing match, not a basketball game. I hate cumulative compubox stats because they say fuck all about the rounds. It's conceivable that a man can win his rounds bigger than his opponent wins his, and still lose the fight. While it's not that common, it's certainly in the realm of possibility. I had it 9-3....maybe 8-4 or 10-2 for Manny. But Pacman didn't show killer instinct against a man who HBO commentary couldn't quit fucking reminding us that he supposedly couldn't be hurt by. I don't think you guys need this, but the twitter crowd definitely seems to think that it's all about the final punch stats instead of rounds.
Kitschkraft
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PrimaNocta
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Last time I pay for a PPV boxing match for a Looooooong time. Such a horrible decision.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Wow @ this fight.
NinjaMouse
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I think you could easily draw a fair bit from it. The passes were already printed and they've listed Bradley's name first. Unless they do things like for the Super Bowl where gear is printed up for both teams and whoever wins, they have the shirts/hats ready and the losers' gear goes to developing nations as donations.
I dunno...who's to say they ALL weren't in on it. A lot of people got rich off it last night, and we haven't had a real upset like this in a while.
Meus Renaissance
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entremet
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Boxing is dying anyway. I grew up a boxing fan, when the heavyweight division was the premiere division, now the heavyweight division is bore. The other divisions have marquee talent that don't even want to fight each other--Pac and Floyd, and the sport is going to be irrelevant as MMA becomes the most popular combat sport. And it's being run by business people that know what they're doing, nurture talent, market, etc.
RIP Boxing. It'll go to the same level of cultural relevance as horse racing.
RIP Boxing. It'll go to the same level of cultural relevance as horse racing.
It's all suspicious. There was no outrage by Pacquiao at the post-decision interview. When asked if he would accept the rematch, he acknowledged calmly and quickly. Look, I understand that he has no other choice - of course he'd accept the rematch to get his title back, but he was too stoic about it. This is all very strange.
Kitschkraft
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Attackthebase
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Pretty sad that I missed the game last night. Though, I'm quite happy to see people posting statuses about boxing again!
Speedymanic
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Any vids of the crowd reaction when the result was announced? Always good for a laugh.
Speedymanic
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Speaking of boxing dying, what's the current state of the heavyweight division? Stopped following it around the time Lennox Lewis fought Tyson.
Mrs. Manky
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Gina Carano.
Dark Knyght
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Coli-Gaf?
*daps*
Quit stealing Coli smilies breh.
Shit just got real. *Daps both*. Coli-Gaf represent.
gregor7777
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Watched the whole fight. Shut it off and went right to sleep after round 12. No reason to stay up.
Just now found out Manny lost.
Boxing is a fucking joke.
Just now found out Manny lost.
Boxing is a fucking joke.
This looks like Delio.
Vyse The Legend
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You can't really think these things, can you?
Officerrob
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It'a all good though because his pockets are lined with money. After the rematch, he will fight Floyd for another big payday
Evander Holyfeld:
Floyd was right again! Listen for the first minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SKWhCihTTEs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SKWhCihTTEs
Have you not read this thread since the first three pages?
parrotbeak
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So people here didn't buy the ppv and the internet is blowing up with people declaring they're done with boxing. How much of an impact do you guys think this will really have? What's the demo who is actually supporting boxing?
shira
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I think most of the money comes from sports bars which show every fight anyway
Syphon Filter
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I don't think the floyd/manny fight will happen at this juncture.
I had Manny winning by 2 or 3 rounds, but there were so many close rounds I don't understand the outrage about the decision. Manny did the most damage for sure, but it was only in a couple rounds. You don't get extra points for landing lots of shots in a round unless you score a knock-down.
Boxing is scored by rounds, and lots of the rounds were close. Also, many of Manny's best shots were hard to see on the inside. It wasn't always clear in those flurries what connected, and whether they actually hurt Bradley. Bradley's jabs from the outside were much easier to confirm as landed.
So maybe it was a bad decision, but I've seen much worse this year. Williams/Lara was an outright robbery. Even Peterson/Khan was more controversial in my opinion.
Boxing is scored by rounds, and lots of the rounds were close. Also, many of Manny's best shots were hard to see on the inside. It wasn't always clear in those flurries what connected, and whether they actually hurt Bradley. Bradley's jabs from the outside were much easier to confirm as landed.
So maybe it was a bad decision, but I've seen much worse this year. Williams/Lara was an outright robbery. Even Peterson/Khan was more controversial in my opinion.
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