Patrick Klepek leaves Giant Bomb

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Dynamite Ringo Matsuri said:
These are kinda my thoughts. I still enjoy listening but it really hasn't been the same without Ryan, Vinny and Pat. I'll really miss Patrick. I was always happy to hear from him time to time on random casts after his departure. Best of luck to you Pat, it's been an awesome ride
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Patrick was never an integral part as much as Ryan or Vinny nor does he have the history of working together like Jeff, Ryan, Brad and Vinny have, when they where the hotspot I was listening to them. Patrick is still a newcomer comparatively and really doesn't belong in the same breath as the the other two.

Also Jeff, Brad and Dan are a good trio.
 
animlboogy said:
This made my head explode. 51% of all human beings are incompatible with Giant Bomb, apparently. This almost makes me take those accusations of GB being a bro cave Patrick needed to leave seriously. If not GB themselves, certainly their idiot fans.
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I'd be surprised if GB's female fans are more than 15% of its audience.
 
SatelliteOfLove said:
Those are very labor-intensive. That sort of thing in Surreality TV shows takes many many man-hours in video editing.
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I know, and so is writing long form articles. I mean, I feel like they've sort of fallen into a happy accident of streaming being a new big thing and produced content/written content dying. It's the same reason they dropped video reviews, because they knew no one watched them and they weren't worth the effort... but at some point, Giantbomb is a Twitch channel/Youtube partner that happens to be owned by CBSi more than a video game website like, well, it's sister site Gamespot.
 
Jburton said:
I don't see how a woman fits into the dynamic, it would be disruptive just to meet a quota.

The Giant Bomb audience is not crying out for specifically a female perspective.

The most important thing is a person who fits into the group, just like Dan who feels like he should always have been there, even though many here and elsewhere bemoaned the appointment, and I am thoroughly glad none of that criticism was taken notice of as Dan is what GB needed.


There are places where a female perspective can be ascertained on gaming, it doesn't need to be shoehorned into GB.
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what's with all these posts implying that a woman could not possibly be a good or even the best fit at Giant Bomb?
 
animlboogy said:
This made my head explode. 51% of all human beings are incompatible with Giant Bomb, apparently. This almost makes me take those accusations of GB being a bro cave Patrick needed to leave seriously. If not GB themselves, certainly their idiot fans.
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Harsh, but yeah basically.
 
End of an era.

Patrick always brought a great perspective to Giant Bomb, and he really diversified the coverage of games there. I'll be interested in seeing what he's doing next, but Giant Bomb has definitely lost a good voice.
 
antigoon said:
what's with all these posts implying that a woman could not possibly be a good or even the best fit at Giant Bomb?
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There's always some bullshit like that in these kind of threads. Please don't get this thread locked with that kind of stuff (not aimed at you, but the person you quoted).
 
animlboogy said:
This made my head explode. 51% of all human beings are incompatible with Giant Bomb, apparently. This almost makes me take those accusations of GB being a bro cave Patrick needed to leave seriously. If not GB themselves, certainly their idiot fans.
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And if it is a bro cave, so what?

Hardly a crime, does anyone harass those afternoon women chat shows because there isn't a male perspective on them? Is 49% of the population incompatible with those shows?

No one says GB is just for guys but it almost is by default, the majority of its audience and those who have followed and supported these guys like Jeff since the 90's are mostly guys who would be in the mid twenties to early thirties and even a little older, much like Jeff, Ryan, Brad etc. We can relate to them and they have similar likes etc. A 30 year old woman is not relatable to me and my gaming and media tastes in general.
 
I suppose we don't know the exact circumstances behind his departure, though have to say this day always seemed like it was inevitable when he moved back to Chicago. Honestly, I'm kind of impressed he did this for almost a year and a half. Just seems like an added challenge working in a distant place from the rest of the crew. At least Alex and Vinny work together now outside the main GB office, and while Patrick did have bits with Iron Galaxy and the like, always seemed like he was off on his own, and that certainly can be tough to deal with.

I didn't always agree with Patrick and felt his taste in games was very different from mine, but I felt I still respected what he had to say for the most part, and his articles were definitely some quality content for the site.

Sad to see him go and wish him the best of luck.
 
Jburton said:
I don't see how a woman fits into the dynamic, it would be disruptive just to meet a quota.

The Giant Bomb audience is not crying out for specifically a female perspective.

The most important thing is a person who fits into the group, just like Dan who feels like he should always have been there, even though many here and elsewhere bemoaned the appointment, and I am thoroughly glad none of that criticism was taken notice of as Dan is what GB needed.


There are places where a female perspective can be ascertained on gaming, it doesn't need to be shoehorned into GB.
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Please detail for us what the 'female perspective' consists of 100% of the time and why it doesn't 'mesh' with 'the dynamic' and why the audience would need to be crying out for it for it to work.

Also you're kind of implying female perspectives should know their place.
 
I might not have agreed with Patrick on many things but god damn was he ever good at trying to convince me otherwise. He's a terrific writer and he will do just fine wherever he ends up.

Also, can we please not turn this thread into the 79th Giant Bomb armchair hiring committee meeting this year? Seriously, leave that shit up to them.
 
KuwabaraTheMan said:
End of an era.

Patrick always brought a great perspective to Giant Bomb, and he really diversified the coverage of games there. I'll be interested in seeing what he's doing next, but Giant Bomb has definitely lost a good voice.
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Could not have said it better myself, he will be missed.
 
While that is true (the newcomer part), I really enjoyed the fact that he, as others have already mentioned, brought some diversity to the table. I mean... the guy played 999 for Christ's sake. That and I enjoy his spookin' with scoops stuff.
 
Myggen said:
There's always some bullshit like that in these kind of threads. Please don't get this thread locked with that kind of stuff (not aimed at you, but the person you quoted).
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I was only reacting to those already asking for a specific gender etc to be the next hire because there isn't one on the staff.

This is a special interest media site that caters almost exclusively to a male audience which makes such calls a bit odd, as a predominately male audience would not be crying out for let's say female representation.
 
Jburton said:
I don't see how a woman fits into the dynamic, it would be disruptive just to meet a quota.

The Giant Bomb audience is not crying out for specifically a female perspective.

The most important thing is a person who fits into the group, just like Dan who feels like he should always have been there, even though many here and elsewhere bemoaned the appointment, and I am thoroughly glad none of that criticism was taken notice of as Dan is what GB needed.


There are places where a female perspective can be ascertained on gaming, it doesn't need to be shoehorned into GB.
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Personally I fear and detest the Female Perspective. I do not want Giant Bomb to be knocked off course by the presence of a woman. Nothing against women but I just can't relate to their emotional nature and girliness and general inferiority.

Someone once told me they saw a woman play a game but I am convinced they were mistaken.
 
Jburton said:
And if it is a bro cave, so what?

Hardly a crime, does anyone harass those afternoon women chat shows because there isn't a male perspective on them? Is 49% of the population incompatible with those shows?

No one says GB is just for guys but it almost is by default, the majority of its audience and those who have followed and supported these guys like Jeff since the 90's are mostly guys who would be in the mid twenties to early thirties and even a little older, much like Jeff, Ryan, Brad etc. We can relate to them and they have similar likes etc. A 30 year old woman is not relatable to me and my gaming and media tastes in general.
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You need to broaden your horizons. Being able to relate to other human beings outside of your specific age and gender is really a basic aspect of being a functional member of society, and I am actually really surprised to hear someone so nonchalantly proclaim that they are unable to do so.
 
JeTmAn81 said:
I'd be surprised if GB's female fans are more than 15% of its audience.
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You don't have to be a woman to enjoy additional perspectives. Danielle's inclusion in the previous all-boys club at idle thumbs was a stroke of genius, she's awesome.
 
Gentleman Jack said:
Please detail for us what the 'female perspective' consists of 100% of the time and why it doesn't 'mesh' with 'the dynamic' and why the audience would need to be crying out for it for it to work.

Also you're kind of implying female perspectives should know their place.
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No I'm not, a site and show that has a 97% male audience has not been crying out for a female perspective and an all male cast has seen the site be successful.

I just don't see how a demanding a female hire is neccesarily in the interest of the audienve.
 
Sorry Jburton, not sure if you're playing devil's advocate but I can't get behind that line of reasoning, and I've been entertained by the core group since the GS days. Giant Bomb is about talented, entertaining folks with the freedom to cover games however they see fit, it has never had anything to do with gender or appealing to a demographic or an audience.
 
Jburton said:
I was only reacting to those already asking for a specific gender etc to be the next hire because there isn't one on the staff.

This is a special interest media site that caters almost exclusively to a male audience which makes such calls a bit odd, as a predominately male audience would not be crying out for let's say female representation.
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There is nothing about Giant Bomb that caters to a specifically male audience, and there is no reason that a woman couldn't fit right in on staff. You are being super gross right now.
 
Good luck wherever you are heading, Patrick.

I think the problem with Patrick and his stint on the Giant Bombcast is that he was a bit too cerebral for what most people want out of the podcast. His contribution to the podcast was mainly copious talk about games, and I think a lot of people (myself included) tune into it for entertainment with a side of games. Just my opinion and I could be way off, of course, but that's how I always looked at it.

I'm sure he'll do fine wherever he may be off to. Godspeed Scoops.
 
LaserBuddha said:
I didn't start the discussion.

Among the many problems with those arguments is that they focus on an imaginary choice between ability and diversity, and they ignore the fact that a more diverse choice could add something to GB that no white male could, and it's not a question of talent.

EDIT: Anyway no biggie.
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I don't see anyone focusing on there being an imaginary choice between ability and diversity. I just think the focus should be on 'the best fit.' Who determines that best fit? Well, the Giant Bomb folks. They're the ones that are going to work with the person.

While a "more diverse choice" could certainly add something to GB that no white male could, it's entirely possible that some other white male could also add something that no one else could. They could have a unique set of skills, experience, or perspective that no one else in the industry has, for example.

Just for the record, I'm not saying that they should hire another white male to fill out the crew. I'm just saying that I don't think the focus should be on *not* hiring another white male. In the end, they'll decide what they think is best for the site. It's up to the audience to decide if that was a good decision or not.
 
Jburton said:
No I'm not, a site and show that has a 97% male audience has not been crying out for a female perspective and an all male cast has seen the site be successful.

I just don't see how a demanding a female hire is neccesarily in the interest of the audienve.
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There's this sinister paranoia underscoring the general fear of a 'female perspective' as if somehow they're going to be this radical, disruptive and audience-killing presence on the merits of their chromosomal makeup alone.

It's irrational and stupid.
 
TheBryanJZX90 said:
You need to broaden your horizons. Being able to relate to other human beings outside of your specific age and gender is really a basic aspect of being a functional member of society, and I am actually really surprised to hear someone so nonchalantly proclaim that they are unable to do so.
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I did not say I cannot relate to women, I am in a long term relationship with a woman and have many healthy and varied relationships with women in different aspects of my life.

In regards to the humour and group dynamic of the GB cast it has always seemed to me to be a blokey kind of thing with that type of humour and perspective on things.

It is that in particular that in refer to.


Also could people stop putting words in my mouth or extrapolating what they wish to type from my posts because I don't agree with a perspective they hold.
 
This sucks I like Patrick and his ability to dig into news stories. i was hoping he would go deep into unity and mcc developement. Hes a smart guy and brought a much needed dynamic to GB as he was willing to cover or try games the rest of the crew wouldn't. i also really like bombing the am. I hope Alex continues the show with Vinny and probable new hire.

I really hope the reason for Patrick leaving isnt due to the assholes that constantly troll him. I know it eats away at a person over time and i worry for alex too. i have a feeling if GB hires a woman well see just how much worse some of the community really is. Don't let the terrorist win. :(
 
Jburton said:
I was only reacting to those already asking for a specific gender etc to be the next hire because there isn't one on the staff.

This is a special interest media site that caters almost exclusively to a male audience which makes such calls a bit odd, as a predominately male audience would not be crying out for let's say female representation.
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It's not about what the audience is crying out for. The audience wasn't crying out for a guy from Kansas who has never eaten a baked potato before, but most grew to love him.

People don't know what they want until they see it or have it. I usually say 'hire the best candidate for the job', and recognize that because the field is filled with white males the odds are any new hire would be a white male. But there is value a different perspective, it's just much harder to quantify.
 
TedNindo said:
I really don't care about the gender. As long as it is someone that fits with the group well.
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This. I want a funny motherfucker, with or without a penis. Knowledge of games is secondary, being interesting and funny is of primary importance.
 
antigoon said:
Whatever they do, please no more ignoramus-types.
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You couldn't have another Dan on the show (not that he's an ignoramus). His shtick would get tiresome if they doubled down on it. And this is coming from someone that thinks he's a fantastic addition to the show.
 
MadLaughter said:
It's not about what the audience is crying out for. The audience wasn't crying out for a guy from Kansas who has never eaten a baked potato before, but most grew to love him.

People don't know what they want until they see it or have it. I usually say 'hire the best candidate for the job', and recognize that because the field is filled with white males the odds are any new hire would be a white male. But there is value a different perspective, it's just much harder to quantify.
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We know what we want. We want Mary Kish!

Seriously, she knows her games. When she came on the UPF to play Evolve, like, she freaking explained what that game was. Compared to the other duders, she actually gets into the games and understands them.
 
MadLaughter said:
It's not about what the audience is crying out for. The audience wasn't crying out for a guy from Kansas who has never eaten a baked potato before, but most grew to love him.

People don't know what they want until they see it or have it. I usually say 'hire the best candidate for the job', and recognize that because the field is filled with white males the odds are any new hire would be a white male. But there is value a different perspective, it's just much harder to quantify.
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Dan easily fits into that group, no stretch to see how similar he is to some in the group while brining his own thing.
 
I said this back when they were last hiring, and I'll say it again. They need to hire the best person for the job, regardless of gender or race. That is the only fair and logical response. People who are saying they would be "disappointed" if another white male was hired are just as moronic as the people claiming that women can't/shouldn't be hired there.

"Let's promote diversity and fairness for all races/genders! Unless we're talking about white men, fuck those guys!"
 
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