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[nkarafo]

It's hilarious how they keep trying this "ugly diverse Strong Woman protagonist" shit. Do they even know their audience?

They probably got scammed by all the sites and articles that claim "49% of gamers are women". So they thought being racists/sexists and excluding/alienating white men is OK, the other half of the chart will cover them.

It's both hilarious and sad. But mostly hilarious. I just feel a bit sad for the few artists/programmers who just want to do their job and now they have to find another studio to work.

 

[Baemono]

Yeah but it's on gamepass so we are grading on a curve.

That means it made something like 200 million Uncle Phil bucks. Somebody can check my math, but I believe that's right.

Is your Uncle Phil buck based on the old Zimbawe dollar ?

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

They probably got scammed by all the sites and articles that claim "49% of gamers are women". So they thought being racists/sexists and excluding/alienating white men is OK, the other half of the chart will cover them.

It's both hilarious and sad. But mostly hilarious. I just feel a bit sad for the few artists/programmers who just want to do their job and now they have to find another studio to work.

The thing is, women are the first ones who DONT want to play as an ugly snarky bitch.

This is confusing women for "a fringe minority of sick women" like SBI's staff.

 

[diffusionx]

Yeah but it's on gamepass so we are grading on a curve.

That means it made something like 200 million Uncle Phil bucks. Somebody can check my math, but I believe that's right.

but seriously it's Greenberg who always lies about games being successful

 

[demigod]

The Gamepass line becomes a convenient catch-all for people looking to excuse poor performance data elsewhere because it can't be proven or disproven.

Don't worry, they won't have the gamepass excuse when Doom ccu is over 40k.

 

[Baemono]

Don't worry, they won't have the gamepass excuse when Doom ccu is over 40k.

I mean Starfield's CCU was like 332k if I remember correctly

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

They probably got scammed by all the sites and articles that claim "49% of gamers are women". So they thought being racists/sexists and excluding/alienating white men is OK, the other half of the chart will cover them.

It's both hilarious and sad. But mostly hilarious. I just feel a bit sad for the few artists/programmers who just want to do their job and now they have to find another studio to work.

Man what a grift. Imagine paying a consulting company to help your game NOT appeal to your actual audience.

 

[Little Chicken]

They probably got scammed by all the sites and articles that claim "49% of gamers are women". So they thought being racists/sexists and excluding/alienating white men is OK, the other half of the chart will cover them.

Conversely, they just made the game they wanted to make, fully expecting it to be received with hot takes like this.

 

[nkarafo]

Conversely, they just made the game they wanted to make, fully expecting it to be received with hot takes like this.

As in, they deliberately sabotaged their own game so it can fail? I mean maybe. Activists can be crazy like that, i don't doubt.

Was their "white male gamers were a mistake" slogan also a part of the game's marketing then? Genius.

 

[Little Chicken]

As in, they deliberately sabotaged their own game so it can fail? I mean maybe. Activists can be crazy like that, i don't doubt.

Was their "white male gamers were a mistake" slogan also a part of the game's marketing then? Genius.

I never really bother paying attention to that kind of stuff to be honest.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

As in, they deliberately sabotaged their own game so it can fail? I mean maybe. Activists can be crazy like that, i don't doubt.

Was their "white male gamers were a mistake" slogan also a part of the game's marketing then? Genius.

You will have to play the game to see if they sabotaged their own game.

People making stuff in their heads, they cannot do anything about it.

 

[nkarafo]

I never really bother paying attention to that kind of stuff to be honest.

That's great. You do you.

But allow me to have my "hot takes" against the people who are racists towards me.

You will have to play the game to see if they sabotaged their own game.

People making stuff in their heads, they cannot do anything about it.

They reportedly excluded me because i'm a "mistake". Why should i give them the benefit of the doubt?

Fuck them

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

The thing is, women are the first ones who DONT want to play as an ugly snarky bitch.

This is confusing women for "a fringe minority of sick women" like SBI's staff.

This, female gamers just like the majority of the gamers also do want to play good looking/cool characters without any sick and abominable stuff in the game cause most people are normal be it female or male. Just that there's always that much smaller mentally insane purple portion of them both male and female that wants ugly designed characters and other abominable agendas in their games.

 

[Heisenberg007]

You will have to play the game to see if they sabotaged their own game.

People making stuff in their heads, they cannot do anything about it.

Ironic, isn't it, considering you haven't played the game either?

 

[adamsapple]

Ironic, isn't it, considering you haven't played the game either?

?

He's posted about it in the OT just today. Right above your post, even.

Stick sensitivity by default is far too low.

Its at 100. I had to raise it to 120 to feel good. Dunno why they did that. Game is 60 fps. This makes it feel quite a lot more janky.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Ironic, isn't it, considering you haven't played the game either?

Am playing it.

Haven't seen anything I would call self sabotage in game.

If someone don't want to play game for some other reason, thats upto them.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Conversely, they just made the game they wanted to make, fully expecting it to be received with hot takes like this.

So did Firewalk.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

While I was reading this I got a notification in Windows for Xbox GamePass.

 

[Darchaos]

This is for sure one of many games the last couple of years.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Blue Prince is already approaching 5k CCU on Steam. Released this morning also on PS+ and Gamepass lmao.

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Another gamepass stinker

Announcing studio layoff in 4…3…2…

 

[Heisenberg007]

Blue Prince is already approaching 5k CCU on Steam. Released this morning also on PS+ and Gamepass lmao.

And a much smaller game with a much smaller marketing budget.

I wonder how will people spin that, considering it is indeed available on both PS+ AND GamePass from day one.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

You will have to play the game to see if they sabotaged their own game.

People making stuff in their heads, they cannot do anything about it.

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

So what? It's just a low budget game in a sea of mid games out now. Why, specifically, is this game getting so much hate here?

 

[yazenov]

Blue Prince is already approaching 5k CCU on Steam. Released this morning also on PS+ and Gamepass lmao.

 

[Three]

Let's be charitable and say this sold 100K units across PC and Xbox and has another 2 million players on gamepass.

7 years of development by around 80-100 people in Montreal.

Unlikely that many, if any, people have subbed/will sub to gamepass for this game.

Could MS, or any company, be happy with this level of "success" ?

It is interesting how many similar games have failed over the last few years: Forspoken, Dustborn, Flintlock, Unknown 9, South of Midnight..

2M is being extraordinarily generous. Atomfall only hit 1.5M across all platforms (incl GP) yet had a CCU 4x higher.

 

[Little Chicken]

And a much smaller game with a much smaller marketing budget.

I wonder how will people spin that, considering it is indeed available on both PS+ AND GamePass from day one.

95 OC, big on social media and as per this analysis, Steam growth in games is driven by Indies.

 

[Thief1987]

95 OC, big on social media and as per this analysis, Steam growth in games is driven by Indies.

It's not 95, it was 95 for 15 minutes

Blue Prince Reviews

Blue Prince is rated 'Mighty' after being reviewed by 41 critics, with an overall average score of 90. It's ranked in the top 1% of games and recommended by 95% of critics.

opencritic.com

 

[Zacfoldor]

One thing I always make sure to do is to never go into the OT of a game I dislike and talk shit. I think the OT is a sacred place, so I would never go in there trying to spoil people's fun with Internet drama.

However, the OTHER threads are fair game for me.

So I want to ask this here then. I saw a screenshot that seemed to show SBI in the actual credits that roll at the end of this game. Because so many people dislike some of the things in this game, it is difficult to determine if that screenshot was real or not. So I ask.

Is that real or a mockup? Did they really thank and give credit to SBI in the credits of this game or is that fake?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

The constant comparisons in gaming is so annoying.

This game was never going to be a big seller and I don't get why steam is even being used to define its success when its in game pass.

Back in the day, we use to get a lot of niche games like this and it was fine. Every game does not have to be a smash hit among the masses.

Well, because "it's in Game Pass" was also used to prop up Hi Fi Rush as a success.

Then Tango Gameworks got shut down by Microsoft.

Then Krafton bought Tango Gameworks.

Now Tango Gameworks has been revived.

And FWIW, Hi Fi Rush reviewed much better than South of Midnight.

It would be extremely interesting to see the sales numbers for this game...like actual purchases on the Xbox platform.

Edit: Did this game even have a physical release? Do Xbox games in general still do physical releases?

On the console? I'm expecting under 50K copies sold and, no, I don't think this got a physical release (for standard editions, anyway).

At this rate it'll probably do just shy of 100K in lifetime sales across Xbox & PC, but they could probably bump it up to 500K with a PS5 & Switch/Switch 2 release. One of those would need to be a physical version for the standard edition though, to stand a chance.

And even at 500K lifetime, it's probably fair to say this game's a commercial failure.

It always looked like it was something that needed more time in the oven. I just don't know if Compulsion Games could deliver something that would make me feel otherwise. We Happy Few came close initially, but the more I saw it, I felt the same way about it.

7-8 years isn't enough time to cook?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Certainly one of the posts of all time.

"it's specifically a very Black game" What, HOW!? Was the majority of the dev staff black (they weren't)? It's funny how someone like this will try saying black people aren't a monolith, yet out the other side of their mouth immediately group them all into a monolith just to try making a "powerful statement" which ultimately means nothing.

"Blackness in any regard is not going to go over well with these chuds" So according to you, black people can't just simply exist like any other group, they have to go out of their way to stand out (and with people like this poster, usually in ways that ironically fall back upon stereotypes), and in a very American way. Because this poster is almost 100% guaranteed to be an American, which informs so much of their post. I doubt a black person from Ghana or Eritrea gives a shit about your far-leftist, Americanized idea of "blackness", because they have an actual culture to identify with (as would I'd say most black Americans not deluded by identity politics). Also, are you assuming most people are disliking the game because of the character's color? It can't simply be because the game may seem fairly mediocre to them, or have bland combat, or the setting isn't exactly something they're super-interested in?

"We gotta start calling out the blatant racism for what it is" What racism? Are you accusing every outlet that hasn't given the game glowing praise of racism simply because the lead character's a black woman? What if some of those those reviewers are black, are they still racist? You said all messages about the game outside of your fake progressive echo chamber are being racist, so that includes all the reviews right? Reviews are just multi-paragraph messages after all, did you stop to think of that?

Like I'm not gonna doubt there are some people taking the piss out the game and showing their bigoted asses, but you'd certainly need to go out of your way to search for that type of stuff directly. Either that or your social timelines are fuxxed by the algorithm which only fed you more of what you were already looking for which...well...says a lot about you as a person (online).

Also imagine being afraid of acknowledging facts around a game's (potentially) poor commercial performance on a platform because of what other people are taking out of it. Couldn't be me; if you're waiting for a world where literally every single person will engage on a subject to your liking, you'll be waiting forever.

 

[MiguelItUp]

7-8 years isn't enough time to cook?

Clearly not, lol. At least not for them.

 

[Jaybe]

I doubt this even gets ported to PlayStation with this weak reception

 

[Plague Doctor]

Clearly not, lol. At least not for them.

To be fair, there was generous mental health PTO offered at the company.

Sometimes you just don't feel like working cause of feels for a week or two.

12 years is much more reasonable for a game like this. But any more than that, that's pushing it.

I mean Concord was rushed with its 8 year development and we all know it would have been a hit if it took another 4 years in development.

 

[laynelane]

The thing is, women are the first ones who DONT want to play as an ugly snarky bitch.

This is confusing women for "a fringe minority of sick women" like SBI's staff.

Thank you. I've noticed a blaming of "women" quite often for this stuff, but there's plenty of women/girls who game that want nothing to do with this bs. As well, men and women are both guilty of putting their identity politics above developing an appealing game for their audience.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Can someone explain to me how Compulsion is not going to get axed when Tango:

1. Had more histoy and legacy than Compulsion
2. made a better game, faster than Compulsion
3. Was more popular and a "breakout hit" with zero marketing, and shadow droped.
4. And Phil's been bitching about wanting a Japanese studio, announcing trips to Japan for years just for the shills and fanboys to act all retarded about it.

*whiny voice:
Oh nooo, y'all are just hating for no reason!! Xbox is literally saving gaming, and Phil has this long-term vision that started, like, 10 years ago and is just about to explode... like next year for sure, when they double down on PlayAnywhere and drop that handheld that's gonna run Steam and Game Pass in da cloud. Xbox is the best ecosystem, hands down. I literally get paid by Phil just by tweeting: With Game Pass, I can put food on the table with all the money I save. And what if they shut down a few studios?? whaa, That just means they're reallocating resources to make even more bangers 10/10... Buuuut of course, the XboX Tax by the corrupt media makes it impossible for any Xbox Game to get 10/10 and win Game of the Year!!! IT IS SO UNFAIR. LEAVE TRIPLE TRILION DOLLAR COMPANY ALONE!!!

 

[saintjules]

- Sweet Baby involvement

- racist community manager who says white male gamers are a mistake

- race swapped main character thanks to SBI


Nah I'm good. Plenty of other games I'd rather spend my time and money on.

Sounds like an ERA comment. You in the right place? I kid.

 

[Kacho]

I doubt this even gets ported to PlayStation with this weak reception

Unless there's a PlayStation port nearing completion, probably not. This game will likely be swept under the rug. There's no money to make on this one.

 

[ReBurn]

Can someone explain to me how Compulsion is not going to get axed when Tango:

1. Had more histoy and legacy than Compulsion
2. made a better game, faster than Compulsion
3. Was more popular and a "breakout hit" with zero marketing, and shadow droped.
4. And Phil's been bitching about wanting a Japanese studio, announcing trips to Japan for years just for the shills and fanboys to act all retarded about it.

*whiny voice:
Oh nooo, y'all are just hating for no reason!! Xbox is literally saving gaming, and Phil has this long-term vision that started, like, 10 years ago and is just about to explode... like next year for sure, when they double down on PlayAnywhere and drop that handheld that's gonna run Steam and Game Pass in da cloud. Xbox is the best ecosystem, hands down. I literally get paid by Phil just by tweeting: With Game Pass, I can put food on the table with all the money I save. And what if they shut down a few studios?? whaa, That just means they're reallocating resources to make even more bangers 10/10... Buuuut of course, the XboX Tax by the corrupt media makes it impossible for any Xbox Game to get 10/10 and win Game of the Year!!! IT IS SO UNFAIR. LEAVE TRIPLE TRILION DOLLAR COMPANY ALONE!!!

Are you ok?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Are you ok?

...no. Thanks for asking tho.

 

[calico]

They made a game for an audience which doesn't play games. There's no great mystery here.

 

[Heisenberg007]

95 OC, big on social media and as per this analysis, Steam growth in games is driven by Indies.

So if a game is good, it succeeds on Steam, and it doesn't really matter if it's launching on Game Pass or PS+ or both at the same time. Exactly!

 

[vaibhavpisal]

So if a game is good, it succeeds on Steam, and it doesn't really matter if it's launching on Game Pass or PS+ or both at the same time. Exactly!

Its also about platform. Any MS game, I always play on gamepass.

If Half Life 3 got released, rest assured I wont be downloading from Epic Game Store.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Its also about platform. Any MS game, I always play on gamepass.

If Half Life 3 got released, rest assured I wont be downloading from Epic Game Store.

HL3 wouldn't even be on Epic.

But the publisher does not matter here at all. If a game is available for free for a user, most people would just play the game instead of buying on another platform. It's not like if it is a non-MS game, people would start buying on Steam even though they could just play it on their Xbox or PlayStation.

That doesn't make any sense.

 

[Darchaos]

I see that people at reee wants to prohibit ccu:s threads or that they are made from the "right" people. Dont ever turn to this gaf,or anyone else for that matter.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I see that people at reee wants to prohibit ccu:s threads or that they are made from the "right" people. Dont ever turn to this gaf,or anyone else for that matter.

There is also a concentrated effort going on here by some folks who want to discredit Steam CCU and any conversation around it by dubbing it a completely useless metric (even though it is regularly used by analysts to calculate game sales), and mocking everyone who is using it to determine the success or failure of a game on Steam.

 

[Little Chicken]

So if a game is good, it succeeds on Steam, and it doesn't really matter if it's launching on Game Pass or PS+ or both at the same time. Exactly!

Sounds like an alternative facts.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Sounds like an alternative facts.

That's what you were saying, right? You said that The Blue Prince has a high Steam CCU because of its high-rating, with the implication of it being day one on Game Pass and PS+ didn't not having any effect.

 

[PeteBull]

I see that people at reee wants to prohibit ccu:s threads or that they are made from the "right" people. Dont ever turn to this gaf,or anyone else for that matter.

Drama - Rumor - Ubisoft Now Pressuring Steam to Remove Player Count Tracking After Historic Star Wars FLOP

https://www.smashjt.com/post/ubisoft-now-pressuring-steam-to-remove-player-count-tracking-after-historic-star-wars-flop A wild new rumored leak from an insider to the FandomPulse exposes Ubisoft’s 'dissatisfaction' with Valve and Steam for displaying concurrent player counts on its platform...

www.neogaf.com

Definitely not coincidence, paid astroturfers, very obvius

 

[Little Chicken]

That's what you were saying, right? You said that The Blue Prince has a high Steam CCU because of its high-rating, with the implication of it being day one on Game Pass and PS+ didn't not having any effect.

Merely offering one of many scenarios that could explain the game's unexceptional performance on Steam