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Persona 4: Arena |OT| Midnight's Just Around The Corner
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Option A is no overscan. Option B is overscan. Option C is SDTV.
Ragingnight
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Uhhh thats not an instant overhead. That is just the universal overhead. Instant overhead is an overhead that you do the instant you leave the ground that the opponent can't block on reaction. You can block Yukiko's AOA on reaction (I have since it seems to be the day 1 mixup of 2A or AOA).
Good example of an instant overhead is aigis's orgia mode jump b and to a lesser extent mitsuru's jump b. Try blocking any of those, its stupid. Thank god mitsuru gets nothing off hers.
Outside P4A, instant overhead are wolverine's jump L in mvc3/umvc3.
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yeah its 33 frame startup
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Yukiko_Amagi#All_Out_Attack_Combos
The Grim Heaper
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But that doesn't roll off the tongue as well! D:
Was it lagging while fighting you, or lagging while watching our match?
Explains it then. Seems my monitor overscans, which is weird as it should be outputting to 1080p if the game supports it... :/
viewtiful_dru
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360 version online is PURE ASS.
but the patch is coming tomorrow right?
set the console to your display's native res. if you're native 720 then other resolutions will likely overcan cause of the scaling
but the patch is coming tomorrow right?
set the console to your display's native res. if you're native 720 then other resolutions will likely overcan cause of the scaling
I do not believe Persona 4 Arena outputs to 1080p. I'll check in just a second. Edit: It's 720p on the PS3.
If he's got a monitor, then it's almost certainly a 1080p display.
Oh yeah, it's got legs.
Gotcha. You and EVOL's match lagged for me as well, so it's probably from his side.
This and BB both thrive in Japan, but P4A will likely have longer legs in the US than BB ever did, since it has the Persona name to sell to a dedicated niche AND it's been receiving great word of mouth among the FGC.
Managed 9 wins in 15 matches with Yukiko, which was much better than my 0 for 5 with Naoto last night. I'll probably be using her for the near future. I'm getting better in general though, not getting Persona break'd as much, even with Yukiko's massive Persona dependence.
Anyone else having the "Connecting to Server" thing at the results screen of online fights take a long time? Sometimes it's really quick, but I've had it take over a minute before. Really slows things down.
Anyone else having the "Connecting to Server" thing at the results screen of online fights take a long time? Sometimes it's really quick, but I've had it take over a minute before. Really slows things down.
Jeez, she's really that bad? Can't wait to face a Yukiko player tomorrow.
I get done in harder by Naoto for some reason.
This might be my last game for the night guys. I need to hit the lab and not let this night repeat itself.
I've gotten bodied by the same Mitsuru player 5 times in ranked, and all they do is overheads and autocombo mash.
They just refused a 6th game against me when I was starting to get the hang of it.
That's free.
Edit: I found them again and they refused again. I'm so salty.
ggs duders. I still hate Teddie's auto combo, bah.
Probably gonna take tomorrow off from online play and finally bite on the story. I can't help but jump onto a lobby whenever someone asks for a match.
Oddly enough, I've yet to fight a single Akihiko, yet I hear it's pretty much her best matchup. Wish I ran into them more often.
Probably gonna take tomorrow off from online play and finally bite on the story. I can't help but jump onto a lobby whenever someone asks for a match.
I'm gonna throw my fucking stick out the window. Fucking yukiko fucking beats me for free. FREE. Akahiko vs Yukiko feels like 10-1 match. It's like if guile had a 1 button projectile against gief.
Oddly enough, I've yet to fight a single Akihiko, yet I hear it's pretty much her best matchup. Wish I ran into them more often.
Ragingnight
Member
...how is yukiko beating so many people. The only reason I can see if that you guys are playing kanji and akihiko. Chie has it rough slightly but the risk/reward is skewed in her favor in terms of number of mistakes needed + she has better answers to yukiko.
Everybody else is like split even or disadv. There is a reason why she is in the lowest tier.
o... that would explain it. Its more 6/4 or 7/3 at the very most. The fans aren't what you have to worry about. Rolling through fans against a good yukiko is almost never a good idea because you're going to eat a 2A/5A. Do whatever it takes to get them in the corner and then from there just bait the dp and go to town. Shit is so hard for her in the corner since she has poor options in corner. If you have to trade health to do persona damage ALWAYS do it. Its almost always in your favor to trade your health to damage her persona since she almost has no options without her persona (no special moves, no burst, no dp).
Everybody else is like split even or disadv. There is a reason why she is in the lowest tier.
I'm gonna throw my fucking stick out the window. Fucking yukiko fucking beats me for free. FREE. Akahiko vs Yukiko feels like 10-1 match. It's like if guile had a 1 button projectile against gief.
o... that would explain it. Its more 6/4 or 7/3 at the very most. The fans aren't what you have to worry about. Rolling through fans against a good yukiko is almost never a good idea because you're going to eat a 2A/5A. Do whatever it takes to get them in the corner and then from there just bait the dp and go to town. Shit is so hard for her in the corner since she has poor options in corner. If you have to trade health to do persona damage ALWAYS do it. Its almost always in your favor to trade your health to damage her persona since she almost has no options without her persona (no special moves, no burst, no dp).
AnkiRendan
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Yukiko sure jumped in popularity! God damn!
Master Milk
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I'm gonna throw my fucking stick out the window. Fucking yukiko fucking beats me for free. FREE. Akahiko vs Yukiko feels like 10-1 match. It's like if guile had a 1 button projectile against gief.
Yea, this is a very salt inducing game.
More often than not, the matches I've won in lobbies are either players getting hit by fans nearly every other second (it adds up!), or my opponents not recognizing that I had changed my tactics enough for me to lead. I was getting blown up by Onemic's Mitsuru until I recognized what blockstrings were getting me hit and respected the range on her damn sword.
I still need to up my game though. Outside of using it in blockstrings once in a while, I'm not actively using Maragi or getting in enough fire boosts early on when I have tons of chances.
I'm gonna throw my fucking stick out the window. Fucking yukiko fucking beats me for free. FREE. Akahiko vs Yukiko feels like 10-1 match. It's like if guile had a 1 button projectile against gief.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfc1MRVmJYs
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Good games. I think you did well.
After the first match I noticed that you started adapting to my tactics. Like stuffing my j5B at the start of every round until I stopped doing it. One thing I think you could benefit a lot from is learning to use Izanagi D with high low mixups.
If you look at some youtube video's you'll see Yu's putting up constant high low pressure along with Izanagi D attack until the opponent messes up. It's very effective because you're getting hit by two things at once and forces the opponent to block multiple high/lows in a short amount of time.
I'm not sure how hard that is to learn since I haven't played Yu in a while but you could start with here to learn how to up your Yu game.
"God's Beard!"
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Ragingnight
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The one thing I need to improve on immediately is to do less air fans since she doesn't recover until she touches the floor so free combo if they dodge or I miss.
Beside that I need to work on more traps, keep my pressure tighter and confirm anti-air A into a full combo.
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O yeah and not to get destroyed in corner pressure QQ.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Prototype-03
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GGs Milk. I promise next time, I'll have real combos and not a half finished one.
Ok I'm back now, who's around for games? xD
BUT I JUST DECIDED TO STOP PLAYING FOR THE NIGHT.... bah, one or two more matches won't hurt.
Axelstream
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I believe he's talking about its speed in comparison to the other IKs. Not in general.
Ragingnight
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Yeah, I'm aware of the matchup I'm gonna face, but it's something I need to face sooner or later. Might as well get it over with now.
PSN is Noisama, Q.
DAMN this game is fun, and easy to get into. Akihiko doesnt have that many moves, but its really great how all his stuff chains into each other. Ceaser weak attack is nice to use for an OTG (hope i'm using that right), but i'm kinda disappointed that he only has one strong attack, and it's that global vacuum.
Ragingnight
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VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Did you get combo'd into an IK?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I'll play you in a little bit after I play Noi and god's. Add me on psn same name as here
I can't do that fucking shit LOL that's like a 1 frame link off a character dropping from the top of the screen
I have to thank everyone I've played with and that's given me advice. I've only had the game for like a day, but I'm already doing things that I didn't think I'd be able to do for a long time in a fighting game. Half the shit I can do I can only do in training mode, but still, haha.
You guys are pushing me to be better.
You guys are pushing me to be better.
Ragingnight
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Nope but yukiko has a really difficult time against slabs. Its imo 7-3 in slabs favor, she has no real options against slab while slab has all the options. And I'm free to Jump axe crossup.
I wished there was a gaf meetup in the san fernando valley =X I don't drive due to health reasons otherwise I would be at WNF every week for P4A.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Doesn't seem that bad to me.
The grab at the end should be similar to catching someone after bursting mid combo. If you can 214D someone after a Jayoku as Hazama in BB I think you can do this.
Of course there's the whole learning the whole combo before the IK but that should take a couple hours at most because of potential timing issues.
About the axe crossup, Yukiko should have some anti air capabilities. Seems a common theme for 2B to be an anti air attack. Timing it can be difficult though.
Master Milk
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Yea, ggs man. You were punishing most of my attacks appropriately. Felt like I couldn't do anything most of the time, no matter where I was on screen.
I might pick someone else up until I learn Elizabeth proper. I am so salty right now.
...I'm in the San Fernando valley.
Ok I'm back now, who's around for games? xD
I swear I was telling the truth. I was actually going to open the damn game this time.
Any Mitsuru players do challenge 30 and can tell me the notation for the combo? Dustloop seems to be down or something.
Mitsuru challenge 30
I don't know which version of coup droit to use as the opponent is dropping down...
Mitsuru challenge 30
I don't know which version of coup droit to use as the opponent is dropping down...
Ragingnight
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2B is a pretty bad anti air if not spaced right for yuki since its a upward fan toss. Also there a chance the persona takes the hit since its always out and fans do not take away a p card away off slabs.
Yuki best AA is 5A, 236C/D if spaced right, and fans. But I believe most of them lose to it. I think DP (baitable) is my only option beside blocking.
Also is slabs/labs auto combo safe on block? I can't seem to punish it at all.
Where at? I'm northridge.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Hit shadow lab after the second attack, the 3rd is slow as shit
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