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Persona 4: Arena |OT| Midnight's Just Around The Corner
- Thread starter cj_iwakura
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Caesar does suck. But that's why you should use him more. Everyone thinks he sucks. And when you get Persona Broken, you get to give absolutely zero fucks. Standing C gets trumped by Kanji's identical move all the time - so that's something to note.
But j.C is actually decent and the startup serves to throw some people off when used as a change of pace. The pull is something you'll only really start to notice and appreciate when you get into gauging distances on rushes, weaves, etc. Also, I think you've noticed by now that Akihiko's 5a and 2a range is not all that great. Next time you get locked into the back and forth spacing war that all Akihiko's endure, sit back and hit D - bait with a weave, dash forward, and use that overhead. Someone said it before, but the overhead is underused by many. Take advantage of those frames of invincibility.
Is stand C the over head or?
Knux-Future
Banned
Teddie can go EAD.
He's my new Yosuke in term Ihavenofuckingcluewattodo.
He's my new Yosuke in term Ihavenofuckingcluewattodo.
Naw, the all out attack.
Should've clarified - and you can't pull and attack with caesar at the same time anyways.
Knux-Future
Banned
Can someone teach me how to Aigis?
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
The only variation I know goes up to 7.4k.
I haven't even looked at the mechanics of why SMP loop works so I'm leaving the last challenge till later.
I'll play if you haven't found anyone yet.
Shouta
Member
5B5CSweep -> SB Double Fangs -> D Trap -> 2A2B -> A Double Fangs -> Step back Charged 2C -> 5C -> B Double Fangs x up to 9300 Damage -> Alpha Pistol will get you the 10k.
This setup actually goes up to 11k damage and can oneshot pretty much any character in the game, it's harder to land though.
Supermanisdead
Member
I have like 17 or so challenges on every character except Mitsuru. Stupid charge moves. I actually like doing challenges and the arcade mode, but playing online is just not fun to me.
Ragingnight
Member
the true test is score attack mode =D
Young Magus
Junior Member
Thanks for the reply back, Chie huh? I might look into her.
Prototype-03
Member
GGs. Didn't really use a lot of Ds until I saw you using it. The cannon too. Didn't know the cannon can be used to set up.
Yeah, I use a lot of auto combo to set up the orgia pressure. I was afraid too 'cause that reversal is so good. At least I learned what to do when you didn't recover from knockdown. The first few times, I literally just sat there going "uhh.... What now?"
Yeah you can A cannon xx 22B [6]C for a 5k ex megido combo starter too, though it only works if the cannon hits xd
I'm going to have to start incorporating the autocombo and 236 super into my game. Never bothered using either before since I previously saved all my meter for ex megido/ex cannon and preferred a knockdown with some range to do cannon pressure.
As a friend and fellow forum member noted, sometimes people have shitty times in fighters until they find a character that suits them.
I have been playing Naoto (after unceremoniously giving up Aigis) and I have just been fucking up online. Hell, in randoms, I'm more likely to get a win with any other character but Naoto; so there might be something that I'm just not getting about her fundamental playstyle.
So I need to ask here: from someone who played Ky/Milla/Order Sol in Guilty Gear XX through Accent Core, Hazama/Mu in BlazBlue, what would be a good character to really learn here in this game?
Oh believe me, when I try that, it always results in miraculous comebacks. I'm just more of a klutz when it comes to Naoto for some reason.
I have been playing Naoto (after unceremoniously giving up Aigis) and I have just been fucking up online. Hell, in randoms, I'm more likely to get a win with any other character but Naoto; so there might be something that I'm just not getting about her fundamental playstyle.
So I need to ask here: from someone who played Ky/Milla/Order Sol in Guilty Gear XX through Accent Core, Hazama/Mu in BlazBlue, what would be a good character to really learn here in this game?
Oh believe me, when I try that, it always results in miraculous comebacks. I'm just more of a klutz when it comes to Naoto for some reason.
Naoto:
1) Throw AA and ground traps all over yourself
2) Watch as the opponent falls over all your traps for major damage or hesitate and eat major damage from your gun
3) ???
4) Profit.
I'm kind of surprised Aigis is such an unpopular character, at least on PSN.
Shadow Labrys as the least popular isn't too surprising, but I thought Aigis had a lot of fans.
Weird that regular Labrys is more popular than Aigis though.
Teddie being the 3rd most unpopular is also surprising, he's a pretty easy character to use with just basic, scrubby mentality.
Shadow Labrys as the least popular isn't too surprising, but I thought Aigis had a lot of fans.
Weird that regular Labrys is more popular than Aigis though.
Teddie being the 3rd most unpopular is also surprising, he's a pretty easy character to use with just basic, scrubby mentality.
Hmm, I don't think so. Simpler overall movelist, big hitboxes on normals, no stance changes or ammo conversation, etc. I'll fully admit that I wanted to play Aigis Day 1, but I'm seriously no good with characters that require stance changes, even if Aigis somewhat lessens this with her Escape Change. (The most I got out of Ammy in MvC3 was H spam).
Aigis is the better overall character sure, but some folks just like the simplicity.
So has the general consensus weighed on on Kanji yet? Because now that we're in week 2, I'm of the opinion that he just can't compete. Against competent Mitsuru or Aigis's, he cannot land a single hit due to their to safely get in and out against him. Even high level akihikos that can use ex-bob and weave well can make it so that they are never in Kanji's attack range when they are not attacking.
Unfortunately, disappointingly, he ain't no Tager.
Unfortunately, disappointingly, he ain't no Tager.
Ragingnight
Member
He can win tournaments if hes lucky and plays the brackets. But thats almost anybody that isn't mitsu, aigis, and yu.
He's B tier. Everyone in this game can compete.
Yeah. I feel like the key to winning in this game is speed and consistancy. Even if you can completely block aigis's long 6k combo, the fact that there's virtually 0 break in it for you to counterattack makes her so strong. And yu can use his Oki stuff to literally keep you in block stun forever if he wants to.
On a high level, I think it's safe to say that, now, now that we're out of the day one gate, there's no room for grapplers in this game.
Yeah, he's B tier where tiers are seperated by speed. He can't compete with fast characters...almost period.
Also, Mitsuru's c.B has invincibility on it?
Ragingnight
Member
No but air unblockable so you'll lose if you're in the air.
Prototype-03
Member
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH. That makes sense. Kanji vs Mitsuru is one of those 7:3 matchups I've been hearing about, isn't he?
Truthhhhhhh.
The Grim Heaper
Member
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Ragingnight
Member
Really? I have good luck against good Liz's with Kanji. All about staying at the top of the screen as long as possible.
Supermanisdead
Member
Labrys makes me ill.
I guess using Seta and the others had gotten me into the "Oh shit! PERSONA BROKEN!" mind-set because I'm too scared to just throw Caesar out without care. The other thing is that if he's broken you lose your Ziodyne super that is full screen and have the upper-cut only during that time if you need to pull a super off.
I'll have to play with the pull a bit more because I haven't really found a use for the Tager pull.
Who is Seta?
The cannon name of the person that stole Minato's spot. :|
(No Atlus, yours came second. Dealwithit.gif)
Master Milk
Member
i doubt america even has anything you could call a good liz yet
messing around with the Yukiko IK glitch for shits and giggles
apparently if they don't block the little crystal explosion thing, they get slowly lifted up into the air and eventually off the screen. after like.. a minute or something, the person you hit appears back on the screen (with Yukiko still posing) and if they hit her they die.
Why am I not practicing real combos.
apparently if they don't block the little crystal explosion thing, they get slowly lifted up into the air and eventually off the screen. after like.. a minute or something, the person you hit appears back on the screen (with Yukiko still posing) and if they hit her they die.
Why am I not practicing real combos.
Ragingnight
Member
yukiko doesn't have real combos =( just real setups. Most of her "advance" combos are impractical. The only one I can see being useful are the SB agi into the maragi combos, but those aren't easy (for me).
Aigis can one shot kill people? WTFFFFFF