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Persona 4: Arena |OT| Midnight's Just Around The Corner
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Sent. I hope I don't get steamrolled.
You can hold it though and release as needed. There is no recovery. You can also cancel out of it. The fans and the ground rolling fire attack are lol vs an Akihiko that bothers to dodge them - the A attacks are the biggest hurdle by far.
I was probably out
I'll definitely try and get on with you today though.
Unlike a lot of Yukiko's, you really take advantage of the speed and hitbox of her j.A and 5.A attacks while keeping the spacing between fans. You also don't sit back and try to treat Yukiko like a full screen zoning character like most. Your damage output is great for the reason that you capitalized on nearly every hit. Again, GGs dude.
TomcatTheLion
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Want to get a few games in with Mitsu later tonight after Sleeping Dogs.
Oh this addiction is so lovely.
Oh this addiction is so lovely.
I think I found a kindred spirit in the form of Labrys. She's a bit slow, but I feel as if I can take my time in matches with her. She has good damage and decent projectiles, plus I actually kind of like her in story mode. And I have also been trying to pick up Aigis again (timing for her stuff is... not quite what I would expect, and my fingers are still doing dumb stuff; I wonder if I'm grasping the stick incorrectly or uncomfortably).
And oddly enough, losing with Aigis or Labrys doesn't make me rage like losing with Naoto... so I guess that's something. I guess I'll stick with the Robot Sisters for a little while now.
And oddly enough, losing with Aigis or Labrys doesn't make me rage like losing with Naoto... so I guess that's something. I guess I'll stick with the Robot Sisters for a little while now.
NOOOOOOO
Prototype-03
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I was probably out
I'll definitely try and get on with you today though.
Lol, I'm just teasing. I'll see if I can play later tonight but no guarantees. What time you gonna be on?
Her combos are just not something that feels easy to pick up for me from what I've seen the Japanese do. Most other characters I feel like I could do the combos, but hers just throw me off a shit ton. Props to people who do her crazy combos where you leave traps mid combo to juggle people for extended damage.
Okay, Akihiko is my main now. Spent more time playing and he fits my playstyle so well.
5AA(A) > 2BD >236236A/B is just plain fun. EDIT: ARGH, I MEANT 2BD.
So, Akihi-bros, help me out here:
1) what's the best way to get cyclone level 3 in combos? I'm doing 236A/B > 4A/B > 6A/B, which gives a Cyclone level 2 for the final hit. What can I fit in here to get to level 3?
2) what's the point of using weave/duck in a kill rush? To cover screen w/ the kill rush then avoid punish from the whiff? Or does it make kill rush safer on block? I've seen notations for one combo that uses Kill Rush > Duck > Corkscrew but haven't tried it yet - wouldn't this make the combo breakable during the duck (btw, the fact that the combo meter shows you when you screwed up and made your combo breakable is a *phenomenal* addition to the game).
3) Where are you working in Dive? Right now I'm only using it as a Marvel style air combo finisher (which is rare).
4) Thunder Fists seems like a waste of meter given how the super uppercut slots so well into combos. Am I wrong, and if so, where are you using it?
5AA(A) > 2BD >236236A/B is just plain fun. EDIT: ARGH, I MEANT 2BD.
So, Akihi-bros, help me out here:
1) what's the best way to get cyclone level 3 in combos? I'm doing 236A/B > 4A/B > 6A/B, which gives a Cyclone level 2 for the final hit. What can I fit in here to get to level 3?
2) what's the point of using weave/duck in a kill rush? To cover screen w/ the kill rush then avoid punish from the whiff? Or does it make kill rush safer on block? I've seen notations for one combo that uses Kill Rush > Duck > Corkscrew but haven't tried it yet - wouldn't this make the combo breakable during the duck (btw, the fact that the combo meter shows you when you screwed up and made your combo breakable is a *phenomenal* addition to the game).
3) Where are you working in Dive? Right now I'm only using it as a Marvel style air combo finisher (which is rare).
4) Thunder Fists seems like a waste of meter given how the super uppercut slots so well into combos. Am I wrong, and if so, where are you using it?
Not at home to test but you could try 236SB > 4A/B > 4C > 6A/B > 236236B. Not sure if it'll work though, but 236SB give you a lot more leeway to cancel into Duck and Weave from 4A/B
Weave/Duck gives you Cyclone charges. If someone blocks kill rush, you can 6C into them for a grab, or 4D to bait a DP or mashing and then follow up with 6B. You can also 6CD into a crossup. I also saw something like 236A/B > 4SB > 4C > 4A > 4C > 4A > 6B in a video.
I think if you counterhit with Kill Rush you can 4A > 4C/D > 6A/B. It was in one of the challenges.
I suck at aerial movement so no comment.
I don't know of any good time to use it, except during corner combos that are out of my league at the moment.
TomcatTheLion
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I have a similar feeling with her as my secondary. It's an interesting play-style shift when I go from Mitsu to her and overall (I usually play with more speedy characters). Speaking of speedy I really like the feel of Akihiko.
I still haven't decided which version of Labrys to stick with though.
Thanks, I will try that.
Very helpful, I should check deeper into the challenges & see what I can program training dummy to do for practicing these block options.
I think they allow you to dodge projectiles when high enough. Dunno what raises it.
Cyclone will change the properties of all your Kill Rush followup moves and Cyclone Uppercut. For example, A level 1 corkscrew will blow them away, while a level 3 corckscrew will wall bounce and leave them open for a super. You get Cyclone charges whenever you cancel one Kill Rush followup into another.
Mayonaka Midnight said:
Plus, according to Dustloop, Cyclone Uppercut counts as a kill rush followup itself, and so should get extra damage from being at level 3.
What are Aki's reliable ways to get FC's?
Edit: answering myself, 5B is a FC, nice.)
I was probably out
I'll definitely try and get on with you today though.
I hope you punch the shit out of that robot. That is all.
Jump cancel air combos give me a hard time in this game. They seem so easy but my double jump never comes out. Kanji's aaa dj a b 214 B is giving me tons of trouble in the challenge mode, and Slab's 2b JB DJ JA seems so hard for no reason at all.
But beating Yukiko with a Chair is so satisfying!
But beating Yukiko with a Chair is so satisfying!
Well, you're not supposed to keep it up from one combo to another. It's a per-combo thing. Basically, depending on your combo you know what level your charge will be at and the options they open for you.
Just a simple 5AAA > 4A > > 6B will bring it up to level 2.
I just can't get into him. Then again, I don't really care for most grapple focused characters in fighters with the sole exception of Lilith from Vangard Princess.
Yukiko is awesome too. Although it has probably been mentioned before but she really does remind me of Nu and Lambda after playing with her a bit.
I think that's looking at it the wrong way - it's more about building a combo (1) that maxes out the meter for the final hit, and (2) that you can reliably pull off.
For me it's just finding the missing piece that builds from 2 to 3. Getting to level 2 is easy, but the fun stuff, like crumple and wall bounce, happens at 3. If Haly is right and you can drop a 4C into 236SB starter, that will make for fun, repeatable combos.
I want to play around with 5A > 5B (FC) > 236A/B and see what I can do from there to get level 3 & crumples.
Prototype-03
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You use Mitsuru D:
Cyclone level is important for a lot of things. All kinds of properties change. Akihiko's all out overhead isn't that awesome on its own but at level 3 cyclone in block string I read it becomes faster than Chie's.
level 2 is important for mid combo FA uppercuts because they send the person higher for further combo potential.
My goto combo at the moment is:
A A B 2B 236AB 4B 6C BD 2AB 236A 6B
punches > SP kill rush > hook > duck > uppercut > sweep > kill rush > corckscrew
the followup after the uppercut works because of the cyclone level at that point.
level 2 is important for mid combo FA uppercuts because they send the person higher for further combo potential.
My goto combo at the moment is:
A A B 2B 236AB 4B 6C BD 2AB 236A 6B
punches > SP kill rush > hook > duck > uppercut > sweep > kill rush > corckscrew
the followup after the uppercut works because of the cyclone level at that point.
That's slick - going to try it out tonight. Thanks.
Concerning that, I think this is what you're looking for?
My BnB is a pretty simple 5AA > 5B > 2A+B > 236A > 4A > 6B.
Until I can land that in regular matches consistently I'm not going to bother with anything more complex. Struggling with avoiding A mashing.
I guess the combos I use that end in the sweep 2A+B never raise the gauge because I can use the auto-combo or build my own short combo strings and it never raises for me. And when it does hit level 1, it falls back to 0 two milliseconds later to where I haven't even bothered to pay attention to the damn thing.
darkblade77
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It's use or cancel; the moment you cancel a level is raised and applied to the next move, which will set everything back to 0 unless another cancel is involved. That's why you can clearly see the level at a given number >= 1 for the entirety of uppercut super but largely at 0 for most other gameplay.
It's so awful, whoever came up with that deserves a slap upside the head.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
You guys should be more scared of Proto he beats me
every 20th game
Listen to him and keep your eyes on her. He makes sound queues
Prototype-03
Member
Let's be fair.
I never beat you.
I only care when I'm mid range or if he disappears for a second.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
You having trouble with what part?
For the first part you jump as soon as you can and hit as soon as you are close enough to connect.
The second part the jump cancel-able frames isn't as soon as the move hits it's a little bit after. So after it hits count half a second in your head then jump again.
Got it. Also I fell for Naota's killshot lol. Playing with Aki, seems you have to make more use of dodges than anything, but once you get in...
Aki is piss easy imo. Hence why I'm playing him.
I am all about those high health, high damage, low execution characters in my fighters.
See: Abel, or Nova
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
His combos are a bit more strict. Aegis is more execution for her movements and mix ups. her combos are brain dead
Oh really? Dacidbro keeps talking about how he's a really hard character to use because he has so many combos to keep track of depending on your situation and you need to be able to properly read your opponent if you expect to get anything out of him.
Ya, I have been trying it like that. It's just the timing is so strict. Sometimes Ill get the Jump B, sometimes Ill get the JB DJ JA in there, but not have enough time for guillotine axe. I guess I'll keep trying it.
Also, for your B+D reversal video. Your Titanomachia inputs are Up C, + 236 C right? Or are they reversed? How does he come out from the other side? I'm still trying to figure out how to manipulate the position of Asterois in combos. I can do the basic stuff like combo into knuckle train or set up some laser beam pressure in the corner.
Blocking keeps him stationary, while letting go resets him behind me. Is that right?
That's why he is hard. His basic stuff is easy, but to remember all the follow ups in combos are much harder. When to weave and sway and to duck. Also the 2b Jumping B loops are really awkward. He takes more muscle memory than most of the cast. That's why I switched to kanji. Kanji is much more straight forward, and my neutral game with Kanji is leaps and bounds better compared to my akihiko. Plus I can't stand how bad Ceaser is. In a game called Persona, I want a good persona, and Kanji's persona has so much utility.
Well his counter really can catch people off guard, and yeah some of this stuff does seem pretty situational.
EDIT: Yeah Ceasar really could have had some better moves. I like the range of the swipe and the global vac, but some variation would have been nice. A launcher for instance.