That will work for me, I'll be at home all day today.
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That will work for me, I'll be at home all day today.
Some of the challenge mode stuff is helpful to see how things play & fit together. And some of the stuff there is actually useful.
But you're better off checking dustloop.com or asking the Chie players here.
So last night I put in like oh 5 minutes in the lab with Chie, then did around 40+ matches with an online buddy who got the game. We leveled the fuck up faaaaaast.
He already knew some bad ass Yukiko combos, set ups, etc, but just didn't know the actual match ups since he played about 1 ranked match, and rest was lab time for him.
By the end we were doing some fucking cheaaaaaap mix ups on each other. He had one with Yukiko in awakened doing her fire super to bring you towards here, and then I'd have to guess low, high, or throw set up, or cross up set up since I was stuck in block stun for the damn fire super.
I'm done searching for a main though. Tried Yosuke, tried Akihiko, and tried Chie. Chie wins hands down.
I LOVE STEAK!
He already knew some bad ass Yukiko combos, set ups, etc, but just didn't know the actual match ups since he played about 1 ranked match, and rest was lab time for him.
By the end we were doing some fucking cheaaaaaap mix ups on each other. He had one with Yukiko in awakened doing her fire super to bring you towards here, and then I'd have to guess low, high, or throw set up, or cross up set up since I was stuck in block stun for the damn fire super.
I'm done searching for a main though. Tried Yosuke, tried Akihiko, and tried Chie. Chie wins hands down.
I LOVE STEAK!
Prototype-03
Member
I need to play some chie players. I still have no idea how to block the auto combo
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
High low
Right, I'll check out some of the combos in that dustloop thread and see what works. Thanks!
Prototype-03
Member
Ah... okay
They've always been on ranked so haven't learned it yet :/
Literally, I just keep them out with 2B. Then burst or DP if they ever get close.
Stupid question but what does "leads into OKI" mean?
Best go into training mode and to record the dummy doing things you have trouble with. I've been looping Labrys doing sweep -> overhead axe like 40 times so I can muscle memory block it if I at least block the sweep first.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It means you knock them flat on their asses and they have to guess a mix up on waking up.
Oki pretty much means mix ups and attacks you do to a player that is recovering off the ground
Prototype-03
Member
oki's short for okizeme. Basically, it's a hard knockdown setup.
Well it's not a stupid question so don't feel ashamed in asking. Oki is short for Okizeme and it refers to the tactics one can use while the opponent is knocked down.
Block everything high then block the last hit low.
Prototype-03
Member
Oki is a mixup setup. So any combo works from there on out. Oki just means that your opponent just got a hard knockdown (ie: they have very limited options on wake up) so you can do high/low/bait reversals/throw.
I faced a chie player that did pressured me with a block string consisting of lows and her high low attack followed immediatly by her aoa. How the hell do you stop that? Her aoa comes out so fast that its near impossible for me to block on reaction and with it being seamlessly mixed with her block strings it made it impossible for her not to eventually get a hit on me a pound me down. Can her aoa be combo'd into? As it came out so fast during her block strings it seemed as if there was no gap open in the string to attack.
Prototype-03
Member
I believe what you're talking about is actually one of her combos. If you get hit by the low, the AOA connects. If you block the low then you can block the high (shouldn't be that hard... AOA's are still pretty slow, even the fast ones).
edit: taken from Dustloop. I don't think the AOA can be followed up but it's a hard knockdown (according to the combos)
5C (CH) > 5B > 2B > 236A > 236A > 5B > 5C > 5AB (0%@2396)
5AB-D (FC) > 5B > 5C > 2D > JD > 5AB (0%@2737)
5BD (CH) > 5B > JC > 8D > 5AB (0%@2671)
JBB > 5B > 5C > 2B > 236A >23A > 5B > 5C >5AB (0%@2545)
I don't see any lows, so I may be wrong on that one.
Gotcha, thanks!
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Labrys has the best English VA in this game. FACT
FICTION.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Fiction. Second best. Aigis is the best, duh.
You can't resist that Boston accent!
EMBRACE THE BOSTON ACCENT
Fiction. Second best. Aigis is the best, duh.
More like worst. MY ARMOR MY ARMOR MY ARMOR!
Haven't played the game yet, but from what I've heard it's appalling.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Boston accents are the new kawaii
I can't blame Arc System Works and their love of having too many fucking voices in battle on Aigis!
Nah, it's very charming actually.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
On the topic of VAs...
as much as I love Johnny Yong Bosch, I can't help but feel his voice feels too old to be Yu's voice
Not sure why that's in spoilers, but yeah, Daisuke Namikawa is a heck of a lot better for the character. Still, JYB puts on a good preformance.
Akihiko's throw is terrible. It's range is pathetic.
Also, screw the combos - you're stiff as hell. Learn how to move with your character before trying to land crazy youtube combos. Kill Rush is not a substitute for a poke - it is never your safest option as your first attack. Akihiko's basic run isn't the greatest thing in the world but good old run forward / roll or dash is essential. Its cool to sit and weave through fireballs, but at the right distance you can weave through and corkscrew right after before opponents know what him them.
You should almost never be leading with a naked Kill Rush with Akihiko.
SolarKnight
Member
It really grows on you, just like the character.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Yea now that I think about it the spoilers were out of place, haha
I can't blame Arc System Works and their love of having too many fucking voices in battle on Aigis!
Obligatory "I NEED YOUR HALP" post.
And yeah I do like JYB at times (fighting game wise I feel he's perfect for Yang and Zero), I don't feel like he fits Yu as well as his Japanese VA.
Daisuke is unbelievably well-cast. Most of the JP cast seems to be.
I don't blame Bosch really. He's a great actor, he's just put into roles that are unsuited for his voice. Same situation with Laura Bailey. Her Rise is fantastic because it actually fits her voice.
Holy crap, I never realized all the roles Namikawa does. He certainly has range.
Holy crap, I never realized all the roles Namikawa does. He certainly has range.
Against characters like Kanji, it's dope when he whiffs 5C
ShinobiFist
Banned
Going to put some work into the game this weekend, haven't had time since I got it last week, but how does GAF likes the game overall? From the limited two days I had with the game, I find it rather amazing, and this is coming from a guy that mainly plays VF...
It's awesome. This is my first anime type fighter and I fucking love it.