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Persona 4 |OT|

Yaweee

Member
Second said:
Why do personae from P3 still have the same art-design in P4?
Quite a letdown. I expected some new cool art from the creatures...

For the same reason the personae from P3 use the same art-design as in SMT1, back in 1992?

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I like Kanji's S. Link.

Rank 6 Spoiler:

"She wants a pink alligator? Oh, like the one in that story book."

:D :D :D
 

Majmun

Member
Yaweee said:
For the same reason the personae from P3 use the same art-design as in SMT1, back in 1992?

Are you serious? P3 was my second SMT game after Nocturne. I can't remember the designs in Nocturne anymore...

They need newer designs to keep it fresh imo. Final Fantasy always uses new designs for the summons , for instance...
 

Tamanon

Banned
Second said:
Are you serious? P3 was my second SMT game after Nocturne. I can't remember the designs in Nocturne anymore...

They need newer designs to keep it fresh imo.

Eh it's like cactaurs/chocobos in Final Fantasy games. The Personae/demons are a staple of the series and don't change much usually.
 

Yaweee

Member
Tamanon said:
Eh it's like cactaurs/chocobos in Final Fantasy games. The Personae/demons are a staple of the series and don't change much usually.

They (the FF ones) don't use the same exact pieces of art, though. You can tell some of the Justice Persona are old-school Kaneko works.
 
I have finally discovered my uber grinding loophole to avoid paying the stupid fox! Damn thing is a ripoff!

When low on SP, head to yukiko's castle and just keep pwning till you get an Arcana Chance that restores all your SP, then continue your grind lol
 

Majmun

Member
Alts said:
So, as I wait for my pre-order delivery from Amazon, I made a Fusion calculator.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fusion.php
Only Normal spread is supported at the moment.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fission.php
Takes the given persona, and finds all fusions that result in the specified persona.

If you have comments or anything, just PM me. I'll be working on this and finishing Episode Aegis until my copy finally arrives.

That's just awesome. Nice work. I'm going to use that a lot.
 

NichM

Banned
Alts said:
So, as I wait for my pre-order delivery from Amazon, I made a Fusion calculator.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fusion.php
Only Normal spread is supported at the moment.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fission.php
Takes the given persona, and finds all fusions that result in the specified persona.

If you have comments or anything, just PM me. I'll be working on this and finishing Episode Aegis until my copy finally arrives.

The Fission one is the most useful thing ever. Thanks!
 

Blackjack

Member
Yaweee said:
Fo' sho. The first boss is definitely the easiest of the four I've gone through so far, though that is Expert.
Which would you say is the hardest?

Gone through five myself (on expert), I'd rank it (from hardest to easiest) 2 > 1 > 3 > 4 > 5

5 is a joke, and if I was that victim's shadow, I would be embarrassed. :lol
 

Alts

Member
NichM said:
The Fission one is the most useful thing ever. Thanks!

Thanks. I made one for Persona 3 that also incorporated Reverse Triangle Spread, but it often results in 1000+ results, so I don't know if I'll do that this time.
 

Az987

all good things
Man, I still havent gotten my game and I had it preordered through Amazon.

But they finally updated the tracking info today so it looks like ill have it tomorow maybe.

I dunno if ill play it though, I bought P3 at launch and never played it, then Fez and never played that lol. I just wanna look at the artbook :lol
 
Alts said:
So, as I wait for my pre-order delivery from Amazon, I made a Fusion calculator.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fusion.php
Only Normal spread is supported at the moment.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fission.php
Takes the given persona, and finds all fusions that result in the specified persona.

If you have comments or anything, just PM me. I'll be working on this and finishing Episode Aegis until my copy finally arrives.
Good lord, man. I believe this may be one of the most useful things I have ever seen. Props to you.
 

Yaweee

Member
Blackjack said:
Which would you say is the hardest?

Gone through five myself (on expert), I'd rank it (from hardest to easiest) 2 > 1 > 3 > 4 > 5

5 is a joke, and if I was that victim's shadow, I would be embarrassed. :lol

3 > 4 > 2 > 1.

2 was long, but not particularly brutal once I gained enough levels to not get one-shotted. 3 really required me to be on my toes at all times, as did 4.

I expect to see a lot of bizarre lists regarding this game's difficulty, due to the explicit level dependence in the combat algorithms.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
Wyndstryker said:
I have finally discovered my uber grinding loophole to avoid paying the stupid fox! Damn thing is a ripoff!

When low on SP, head to yukiko's castle and just keep pwning till you get an Arcana Chance that restores all your SP, then continue your grind lol

There's a more reliable way to do something similar, actually.

Get up to level 17 and fuse a Sarasvati. Level her up to 19 and she'll learn Invigorate 2, which restores 5 SP per turn in combat. Then while dungeon crawling use your main character for all your out of battle healing needs and use him as much as possible for exploiting weaknesses and whatnot. When his SP runs out leave the dungeon you're in and go to Yukiko's Castle. Equip Sarasvati and get into a fight on the first floor and just have everyone defend until the main character's SP is full. Return to the dungeon you're actually exploring and go to town.

I was able to clear all of the second dungeon, beat the optional boss that was available, collect every item I needed for quests, and grind an extra five levels in a single trip by doing that.

Also, the Cu Sith Persona learns Traesto if you don't want to spend money on escape items. Best part is that he also learns Growth 1, so you can just leave him in reserve until he learns it if you don't want to use him.

Alts said:
So, as I wait for my pre-order delivery from Amazon, I made a Fusion calculator.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fusion.php
Only Normal spread is supported at the moment.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fission.php
Takes the given persona, and finds all fusions that result in the specified persona.

If you have comments or anything, just PM me. I'll be working on this and finishing Episode Aegis until my copy finally arrives.

This thing is insanely useful. Muchos gracias.
 
Alts said:
So, as I wait for my pre-order delivery from Amazon, I made a Fusion calculator.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fusion.php
Only Normal spread is supported at the moment.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fission.php
Takes the given persona, and finds all fusions that result in the specified persona.

If you have comments or anything, just PM me. I'll be working on this and finishing Episode Aegis until my copy finally arrives.
You sir, are a hero, you have won one internets.
 

Acid08

Banned
Alts said:
So, as I wait for my pre-order delivery from Amazon, I made a Fusion calculator.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fusion.php
Only Normal spread is supported at the moment.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fission.php
Takes the given persona, and finds all fusions that result in the specified persona.

If you have comments or anything, just PM me. I'll be working on this and finishing Episode Aegis until my copy finally arrives.
I think I'm in love with you.
 

iammeiam

Member
Argh.

After fifteen minutes of reading this thread, I just ordered P4, the guide, and the Social Link Expansion Pack off of Amazon.

Now I have to go locate and hook up my PS2.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I think trying to figure out the song lyrics is the Persona metagame.

Yooovation yooovation to get the fluffyyyyy
I swear to you that you'll be kissing nothing's wok
Yooovation yoovation yovaaatioonnn i swear to you that you need to make yourself lucking dong
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
Y2Kev said:
I think trying to figure out the song lyrics is the Persona metagame.

Yooovation yooovation to get the fluffyyyyy
I swear to you that you'll be kissing nothing's wok
Yooovation yoovation yovaaatioonnn i swear to you that you need to make yourself lucking dong

At a certain point in the standard battle music it is possible to distinctly hear the words "Die in a spatula fire."
 

Yaweee

Member
Costanza said:
There's only 3 left now, lol

if anybody else wants you better do it quick

Wow. Now I feel less bad about splurging.

There better be a way to get the Raiho plushie when Raidou 2 comes out.
 

Yaweee

Member
darkressurection said:
What is a good level to be at for the second dungeon boss? (I am on beginner because my RPG skills are weaksauce)

On expert, I beat it at 23, and it was a reasonably long fight. I believe Beginner is basically normal plus those ten continues, so don't use them except if you'd lose tons of progress.

So, 23 on normal/beginner should be pretty good. Just don't stroll in flaunting your weaknesses, and have people guard them if you're in a very vulnerable position.
 
Yaweee said:
On expert, I beat it at 23, and it was a reasonably long fight. I believe Beginner is basically normal plus those ten continues, so don't use them except if you'd lose tons of progress.

So, 23 on normal/beginner should be pretty good. Just don't stroll in flaunting your weaknesses, and have people guard them if you're in a very vulnerable position.
Sounds good, only have about 3 levels to gain then before I give it a shot.
 

Volcynika

Member
Bah, too late! I was doing something with family.

Anyways, tried out the bonus boss on the first dungeon. Death came quite quickly.
 

Yaweee

Member
Ordering the Expansion Pack triggered an email from Amazon

Top 10 Bestselling PlayStation 2 Gifts

#1 Persona 4

Which is kind of surprising, as it was only #5 on Amazon's PS2 sales last week.
 
Finally cleared the first dungeon a little while back. Seems like I'm going at a slower pace then a lot of other people here.:lol

Final boss became a lot easier once I realized that I didn't have to beat the Prince. First two times I tried I beat him and got her down low, but then ran out of steam. So the third time I just wound up beating her down and didn't pay too much attention to the Prince.

Story keeps getting more interesting, and I'm loving all the characters. Now that the first dungeon is out of the way, I'll have to take a little break from dungeon exploration and do some socializing and stuff.
 

Shouta

Member
Yaweee said:
Oh, you can also waste a day on the vending machine that only works on Rainy days, but I've never gotten anything good. Don't waste your time.

I got some pretty good shit from it myself on occasion but it is random.
 

mollipen

Member
Guled said:
wow, the graphics are a lot better then P3, more so with the amine cut scenes

I hate the hate P3's anime scenes got. The style was AWESOME, and I'm disappointed that they moved back to a more "generic anime" design.
 

Guled

Member
shidoshi said:
I hate the hate P3's anime scenes got. The style was AWESOME, and I'm disappointed that they moved back to a more "generic anime" design.
I liked P3's style, but the generic style is easier on my eyes and looks better to me
 

MoogPaul

Member
The Gods of gaming have smited me. My XBox360 is in it's lovely white coffin and now my PS2 is giving me disc read errors on anything I put into it. Why must they toy with me!?!? I wanna finish the castle :-(
 
Alts said:
So, as I wait for my pre-order delivery from Amazon, I made a Fusion calculator.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fusion.php
Only Normal spread is supported at the moment.

http://apps.evilrobotstuff.com/persona4/fission.php
Takes the given persona, and finds all fusions that result in the specified persona.

If you have comments or anything, just PM me. I'll be working on this and finishing Episode Aegis until my copy finally arrives.

Thanks for this application. It will help me out tremedously. I have found one mistake so far though.

In your second application, I wanted to find all fusions that resulted in Sarasvati. One of the results was Saki Mitama + Sarasvati. This combination shouldn't even be fusable as both are priestess persona and should give a pristess that is a rank lower then Sarasvati (except Sarasvati is the lowest ranked pristess persona.)
 

Darkman M

Member
I think im a p4 addict, im only in September and i have clocked over 50 hours in this game already.... Think im gonna hit the streets to try and beat this addiction.
 

edgefusion

Member
This works flawlessly on PS3 right? I don't want to get to find I run into trouble, I loved P3 and I definitely want to pick this up.
 

ixix

Exists in a perpetual state of Quantum Crotch Uncertainty.
When I finished the second dungeon something jumped out at me.

Right before the boss fight Shadow Kanji says "You three would make nice boyfriends."

Now obviously boyfriend candidates one and two are the main character and Yosuke. It's the third candidate that made me wonder. I assume he's not talking about the real Kanji, on account of them being the same person. And he's obviously not talking about Chie or Yukiko on account of them lacking Y-chromosomes. Which only leaves. . . Teddie.

I note that Teddie was less enthusiastic in this instance than he was when he thought Yukiko called him a prince.
 
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