It's worth pointing out that, at least by August, the overarching narrative has very much been in the background.
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Persona Community Thread |OT9| SPOILER TAGS OR DIE
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It's worth pointing out that, at least by August, the overarching narrative has very much been in the background.
Like i say before unless they got 7-8 actors in the same profile as Morgana dub VA (newcomers to Persona dubs or people who worked with Atlus but never voice a main character in Persona 3/4 like C.Lee Morris) even people like Labrys VA , Sho VA , Kanamin VA etc etc can fit since they dont voice a "party member" yet if they can use a diferent "voice" than their previous role thats all i ask for the main cast
After that i dont care if the game is filled with P3 and P4 voices actually names like Strassman ,Lowenthal , Fitzgerald ,Mercer ,Bosch , Arem , Wendee Lee and other Atlus (PCB) "favorites" are a given is gonna be in the game as NPC , Bosses , Co-Op and such
And yeah hoping we are days away of hearing Atlus USA with a new trailer hopefully with some dub to end the mystery lol
PD : I love the Max Mittelman choice , he is in my short list for Ryuji or Yusuke but since he getting more main char roles and he sound generic enough (Yuri Lowenthal second coming) i dont mind him as Joker either good call
StarSketch
Banned
I think we've established the guy is too busy for jrpgs.
Almost sure Troy Baker or Laura Bailey are not coming back to a Persona game (or anime jrpg) for a while
like never
Plus Baker got enough Main Character roles already like literally he voice the main guy in a lot of games ...
Mediking
Member
No Laura Bailey.....
And Troy? I'm trying to think the last time I think he did a really good performance.... Gonna get called biased but I think his Vincent performance from Catherine is still better than his Delsin Rowe, Ocelot and now Batman performances. His Dying Light performance needed help. !!!!!!!!!! OH WAIT! Troy was good at Uncharted 4. OH! Atlus USA should hire the guy who played as Young Sam in Uncharted 4. He did a super good job.
Good to hear, from what I've seen it's more than deserved.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Hahaha no. They can't afford him anymore.
[PS4] Persona 5 {2016.09.15} 264,793 / NEW
[PS3] Persona 5 {2016.09.15} 72,974 / NEW
Total: 337,767 copies
Even with a 80% drop it should cross 400k and beat p1
Considering how the franchise was on the verge of death in Eternal Punishment and had to reboot in p3 with 200k sales, im pretty satisfied with it
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
Is it true that P5 localization will use the name Ann instead of Anne?
That would be kind of stupid.
I don't really think that's spoilers so I just post the picture of the credits:
That would be kind of stupid.
I don't really think that's spoilers so I just post the picture of the credits:
Is it true that P5 localization will use the name Ann instead of Anne?
That would be kind of stupid.
I don't really think that's spoilers so I just post the picture of the credits:
Yes. Don't know why they decided to drop the e.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
A Dead Diehard
Member
Watch them drop the e, but keep the credits the same.
Because "shut up". :/
And sadly, I don't think they're above that.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
That would be so stupid if they would do that.
They're probably going to cut the VAs from the credits like usual.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I wouldnt have cared about this for the longest time...but this makes me sad now.
also still cant believe dropping a silent vowel is irking people
Well they forgot some japanese in SMT IV: Apocalypse so why not?
And speaking of Apocalypse, I'm a little less impatient for P5 now that I'm playing it. I was having a good time with DQ VII and all but only a SMT game can distract me from one of its offsprings. Besides, the gameplay has been fucking great right out of the gate and I really like how the story picks up from IV's climax so it already starts much better pacing-wise.
I really hope it doesn't shit the balance later on like SMT IV did because so far the challenge has been just right.
CrimsonFist
Member
Wonder what Atlus USA has against the letter "e"
Is it true that P5 localization will use the name Ann instead of Anne?
That would be kind of stupid.
I don't really think that's spoilers so I just post the picture of the credits:
Did you beat the game?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I believe that had more to do with the pronunciation in japanese
Cannon_Fodder
Member
Even if they cut that out, I think the dropped e will be a problem with other projects down the road. Kinda like the example CrimsonFist posted, where the opening of Arena had "Aegis" and "Kuma" instead of their localized names. It's certainly not a big deal, but it just seems so... unnecessary. Why make a change, for seemingly no good reason, that will only cause problems later?
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Did they cut the JP voices out of the P3 and P4 credits? I don't really pay attention to the names so I don't remember for sure.
That was a weird one since her name was still pronounced Aigis in Japanese, and that's not how you say aegis.
Morning Star
Member
Right. It could be worse. P5 could have been delayed for years and Anne's character could have been eliminated by a new director in favor of a new character named "Nancy Takamaki" or something.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
my sister's middle name is ann. You tend to rarely see either as a first name. Anna is far more common. I'm not bothering to verify that
That's actually a good explanation. It's not that Ann isn't a name. Anne just comes off looking better. That said, yeah, it's not a big deal at all. It's just kinda weird when most people seem to prefer Anne, and that's the romanization the Japanese version went with as well.
Haha my mom's middle name is Ann. That's the only reason I'm not mad about it, I do think it's weird to change it though.
CrimsonFist
Member
If I had to take a guess at to why it's "Ann" rather than "Anne," earlier Atlus Japan marketing assets had it as Ann, so Atlus USA might have decided to go with that before Japan switched to using Anne.
A Dead Diehard
Member
If that's the case, then nothing's keeping them from changing it back like the jp devs.
While Troy definitely is big league and all, I think Laura would definitely return. When I got her autograph at Otakon in 2015 I asked her about not reprising Rise and she definitely seemed a bit down about not being able to do it. Gears of War just caused too much of a schedule conflict.
She's always struck me as one of those "voice monkeys" who'll do pretty much anything, time permitting. Steve Blum is another example, he's in damn near everything, in truth.
He's landing a decent amount of protagonist roles in RPGs. Maybe that's where my perception's coming from.
They're there every single time. I figure it's a legal thing.
No one knows if Baker's full union or not for certain, but if he is, then yeah, he's not touching any nonunion game with a ten-foot pole. He's built up too big a name for himself and is too recognizable that anything he would try would reach the union's door real quick.
Sounds like Nancy Drew in her weeaboo phase.
I think Laura could return but not in a main role, at least. She's got a good amount of range to work in secondary roles.
Like, I'm thinking her more "adult" voice (Jaina Proudmoore, Kainé from Nier) could work well for Sae Niijima.
(Looking up how to spell Sae's last name reminded me I gotta be real careful googling stuff now...also how many damn i's are there in that name, sheesh)
StarSketch
Banned
I saw a video about that, but I don't know where to look for it again. I think the reason was that the Greek word she's named after is pronounced "Aigis" , but is usually spelled "Aegis" and the Japanese version pronounced it as it's spelled.
StarSketch
Banned
Double post, but it's been 2 hours, and I'm only now noticing this post.
Hmm, most of my recognition for him is anime, so I'm probably just missing something. Or our definition of "Protagonist" is different.
Meanwhile, I realized he actually might make an OK Goro.
Huh? I don't recall the names showing up in either P3P or P4G...
-checks youtube-
...Yeah, the Japanese cast isn't in the (US) credits for P4G or P3. I know they are on the Arena games, but those are also dual audio.
Hmm, most of my recognition for him is anime, so I'm probably just missing something. Or our definition of "Protagonist" is different.
Meanwhile, I realized he actually might make an OK Goro.
Huh? I don't recall the names showing up in either P3P or P4G...
-checks youtube-
...Yeah, the Japanese cast isn't in the (US) credits for P4G or P3. I know they are on the Arena games, but those are also dual audio.
I'm not really familiar with how it works, but it seems like since Atlus can't afford the pay that the VA union requires that if Troy did work there, he would be heavily fined. Correct me if I'm wrong.
flipswitch
Member
Best place to buy persona game soundtracks?
I'm looking for P1 and P4.
I know you can listen to them on P4G ( if I remember correctly)
I'm looking for P1 and P4.
I know you can listen to them on P4G ( if I remember correctly)
StarSketch
Banned
I've seen copies of the P4 Reincarnation CD on Amazon, as well as the regular cd, but that might not be the best place to buy it/
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Hit up CDJapan, most of them are probably in stock there. If you wanna go cheaper and second hand, they also tend to pop up on Mandarake every now and then.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this, as I am not an expert by any means.
The basic jist is that one of the biggest acting unions has a rule where you have to work under a union contract. This rule is the source of controversy, because on one hand it's aimed to ensure that the actors represented under a union are fairly paid and represented, but on the other hand it can limit work because some places are not union members and do not pay their fees for whatever reason. Atlus, for example, apparently does non-union work.
Buuut under US law, you can claim financial core status, and work on non-union jobs, but only after you've paid your dues to the union and such.
As Troy Baker has done bigger name works, he probably hasn't been able to claim final core status, and thus hasn't been able to reprise roles in Atlus games.
In the 90s, working under a pseudonym was a common way to get around this issue. That's why you'll see some actors credited under different names and stuff on a lot of anime.
I mean, he's only been pursuing games and anime these past two years. And in that time, he's been the protagonists/protagonist voices for Lord of Magna, Xenoblade X, and Tales of Zesteria. Plus, he's leading characters in FF XV, Sailor Moon, and Digimon Tri.
I get that I'm being a bit loose with my definition of "protagonist." Still, that's more than most people can claim, even after working those genres a lot longer.
I just realized that all the credits I've been looking at have been for the Asian releases of the games... Doesn't help that the credits are in English, so it's hard to tell what release they're for at a glance. Probably completely wrong on the others, then, too.
More or less. Most of Atlus' big actors are ficore, so yeah, they're theoretically able to work any job. It's just a big hassle on the production side to get a ficore actor signed onto a union project. Some clients might not want to fill the extra paperwork. It's less of an issue if you're well-known, but the scab stigma still lingers in places.
The VO industry is generally more understanding landing work's already hard without a handicap. Still, one of my VO coaches has told me some real stories, both as an actor and casting director. Cases of clients loving someone's audition, but going completely gun-shy the moment "ficore" pops up.
Most of Atlus' games are nonunion, except Catherine. It's the reason why it's their only game to list any English actors in the credits. Some places like XSeed try to give cast lists online (it helps that Hatsuu's a major VO geek), but you generally won't see any English actors listed in nonunion localization credits.
As for Baker, it wouldn't surprise me if he moved from ficore to full union. Ficore members forfeit all benefits and security. And those become important once you get older and suddenly have to worry about your health or a family. There's nothing stopping someone from going ficore. You just need to commit either to that or going full union once you've been in three union gigs. The union will block you from working any more until you pick.
Waaitasecond. Catherine was a union-based act? Why the hell did they scrub out the opening credits and not simply put the English actor names there then? lol
A big factor with Troy Baker too is that he's highly desired as a motion capture actor too. Joel in The Last of Us? Delsin in Infamous? He does their motion work, and that's why stuff like the facial expressions and such are so great. So he probably has little reason to drop down to ficore when you're that in demand. Why toss away the benefits? Pensions, Healthcare, they bargain for you, get you special deals, resources, get you the tools you need, legal services, etc. That's a lot to give up, just for smaller anime games.