In my opinion, those are the only two worth keeping.
Maybe Chie.
Too bad you're stuck with Yu.
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Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth |OT| -- No Dating, Just Dungeons
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In my opinion, those are the only two worth keeping.
Maybe Chie.
Too bad you're stuck with Yu.
You give the P4 side way too little credit
Naoto is god, and Yu/Kanji/Chie are very good characters. Yosuke is quite solid, and Yukiko is just a better Yukari. The only P4 character that's outright bad isTeddie.
How many times should I fight FOEs in the first dungeon? I already fought one on the first floor for a request, then another on the 4th floor & was able to make great armor for Yu & Rei/Zen. Would really like to get new armor for Mitsuru, Aigis, & Naoto to stay consistent.
robotzombie
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My party is those two, P3MC, Shinji, and Akihiko. You obviously need P4MC in your party, but I'd say Akihiko or Shinji up front and P3MC in back would make an awesome team for you:
P4MC, Kanji, Ak/Shi
P3MC, Naoto
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
Just defeated the third boss! It was pretty exciting too since
Truly splendid.
Man the conversation between the Lovers was amazing.
I love when Rise gets serious about stuff.
since he was already poisoned and low on health, so at the las turn I decided to attack him with everything I got. Hmm Akihiko you don't have any Wind attack, so just att-OH MY GOD YOU DID A CRITICAL HIT! Then Yosuke and P3MC with Garudyne and Magarula, yes! Should Yukari heal or...? GARUDYNE! And finally, Kanji also does a crit with Guillotine, who does more damage since he's poisoned. All my party keeps boosted since the doctor only power charges himself, and then ALL OUT ATTACK! All debuffs go away and whatever, and BAM he dies after that with poison damage and my party still gets the extra EXP of the All Out Attack!
Man the conversation between the Lovers was amazing.
Glad Yukari brought up how they're actually not really close friends.
SpaceBridge
Member
The third labyrinth is such a drag and a pain, too bad too cuz design wise it's ny favorite. But fuck wind corrosion followed up with magarula. I've lost so much progress, redoing the same thing over and over. I'm used to this kind of thing in SMT games, but this is ridiculous.
Anyone have tips?
Anyone have tips?
My party's Kanji, Akihiko on the front row
P3MC, Naoto, and the Etrian Odyssey Twins on the back row
Links, poison, and muda/hamon all day err day.
I'm almost done with the final floor! Suck my ass, FIRE
Dekunda on P4MC will get rid of corrosion.
I usually spent my first turn with Naoto trying to get insta-kill, and everyone else trying to incapacitate what's left with ailments. Confuse or sleep + impure reach has a pretty good success rate and will prevent them from casting if it hits. Silence circle is good too, but at the time I didn't have binding hands to boost success. Just do your best to prevent two from acting in a turn and getting you with the one-two punch. Use dekunda when you get corroded.
Well, I gave up on that Limited Edition 3DS XL. EBGames still won't authorize my credit card payment without any explanation, fuck them. And fuck Nintendo for giving them exclusives.
Oh well, buying another vanilla 3DS now that the New is already announced was a pretty dumb idea anyway.
Oh well, buying another vanilla 3DS now that the New is already announced was a pretty dumb idea anyway.
*hugs* sorry to hear it didnt work out :/
I did no such thing, lol.
I said Kanji and Naoto were members you'd want to use.
And Chie was arguably one, too.
Yukiko is not naturally better than Yukari. Yukiko is better once you give her the proper spells and sacrifice your accessory slot to get her fast enough to do her job proper-like.
The only thing Yu has going for him is the fact that he's not weak to Dark, imo. Other than that, he has nothing over the P3 MC. He's basically a pre-8 Wizardry Bard, in a game where you do not have five other slots to customize around making one a viable option.
Naoto is everything she was not in Vanilla P4... she is 'Ddess tier.
Haha, some of the attack combos you can pull off in this game.
Aki does Gale Link, Aigis follows it up with Death Chaser, which triggers the Link, then Aki's Heroic Gemini activates, he uses Gale Link again, which then triggers another Gale Link from the first time he used it because he has Double Link, and Aigis then follows up with Death Chaser again. Six attacks out of one! Chaining links off of themselves is fantastic.
Aki does Gale Link, Aigis follows it up with Death Chaser, which triggers the Link, then Aki's Heroic Gemini activates, he uses Gale Link again, which then triggers another Gale Link from the first time he used it because he has Double Link, and Aigis then follows up with Death Chaser again. Six attacks out of one! Chaining links off of themselves is fantastic.
To be fair, you did say that the game was much easier on the P3 side, and that they were "gimped" in comparison to the P3 side.
In any case, the fact Yukiko is not naturally better than Yukari is frankly irrelevant when you consider that making Yukiko into a better unit is fairly trivial process. You gain the Luck-Agility swap accessory quite early, and Mediarama shortly after Yukari naturally learns it. Sacrificing your accessory slot is well worth being able to outrun most enemies (which Yukari can't do... ever). What would does Yukiko really miss out on by opting to use Luck-Agility? Plum Potpouri?
Yu and Makoto aren't directly comparable at all. Yu's probably worse, sure, but Yu and Makoto do not compete for the same slot. Makoto's a back row fighter that's best on support / offensive magic. Yu's a front row fighter that benefits from having an excellent SP, endurance and a decent magic stat. He outdamages Makoto for nearly the entire game, since physical offense > magic in terms of raw damage. Also,
after his Persona evolves
I wouldn't use Yukiko. But I wouldn't use Yukari either.
I like having three front row Phys and two back row Mages.
The back row is obviously going to be Naoto and Makoto.
That leaves the front row, which has many viable options, of which Aegis is a shoe-in.
Kanji is in my opinion a great off-tank, with Aegis being main tank, which leaves pretty much one slot, as a choice. I think Chie, Shinjiro, and Akihiko are better for most of the game, for this role. I'll grant that end-game Yu is a viable substitute for this slot.
The game is pretty much a matter of flavor, though.
That's the ideal setup, yeah
Aegis / Kanji / (Phys of your choice)
Makoto / Naoto
Is the staple endgame setup. But outside of endgame, there are plenty of reasons to use Yu, such as in the 3rd dungeon when corrosion enemies are literally everywhere. Discounting the fact that he's forced on the P4 side, he's a great alternative to the pure physical fighters because his stat spread allows him to do anything at any point in the game (physical attacker + backup healer, buffs, debuffs, etc), and the mudo immunity is sweet. While Chie, Shinjiro and Akihiko are solid units, they're limited in what they can do, and some of them (Chie—Shinji especially) don't really shine until the endgame.
Shinji suffers from very low Speed/Luck; which means his evasion and accuracy suck, he'll crit a lot less than the others, and he can't really make use out of teardrop until the ENG - AGI swap accessory comes into play (and opting to use that kills his vitality). Chie's also slow, and her SP is awful, which greatly limits her options. Like, Critical Eye and Mind's Eye are superb abilities, but she often has to be in boost to use either of these abilities. Akihiko's fantastic and his default skillset is definitely better than Yu's, but his SP (while not as low as the other pure physical fighters) is still quite low, so there's still a reason to use Yu over him.
Like you said though, it's pretty much up to flavor. Character viability isn't strictly dictated on endgame usability, so there's a lot of variance in what you can use. Yukiko's not that bad in the main game. She's pretty much outclassed by Makoto, but if you're already using him as your protagonist then she's not a bad character use (especially if you don't want to leave healing to Makoto). Even if he isn't your MC, she's still a worthy consideration if you prefer her.
Definitely. Aigis has a skill (Swordbreaker) that has a chance of halving damage directed towards anyone in the row she's in. She doesn't need the back row defense bonus, so you want her out in the front. P3MC's better suited to the back row, but if you want to use him there, he's still adequate, provided you have good armor / give him good physical skills.
Yosuke's a beast. Dude is fast... like seriously fast. "I outspeed most FOEs before they can blink fast" fast. Outside of Speed, his strength is adequate and his Magic is pretty good. Best of all, he's got good SP, so you can also trick him out to do all sorts of things. In my game, he's the primary healer/buff user with decent physical skills to fall back on.
Yeah, I just thought he wasn't that good since he is rarely mentioned as being on teams here, so I thought I was missing something. I gave him Recarm and Media, so he can heal and revive usually on the very first turn when needed. He is the only one out of the 5 I use that I can constantly switch to front and back depending on what I want him to do.
I accidentally hamoned it on my first turn :X
I TRIED THAT FOR AN HOUR I HATE YOU
Yeah me too I had naoto-cakes doing it every second turn and ended up having to take it out the old fashioned way :
Your avatar is traumatizing me
Just in case you haven't worked this out yet:
I'm pretty sure collecting those orbs unlocks the first of two post-game extra boss fights, but only after you finish the Reaper request.
I found going through the latter dungeons to be super tedious in NG+ because there aren't too many opportunities to sequence break puzzles beyond brute-forcing through some FOEs. Luckily, I had more than enough yen to max out on Repulse Bells. The payoff
ultimate boss fight had a fun set-up but it was kind of disappointingly easy, at least on Hard.
That extra dialogue was a really cool touch! I didn't notice very many others like it, unfortunately; maybe I just missed them.
Magic bind makes the fight way easier. Level up Sameal for Binding Hands for convenience
I'd like a better pic but yeah has replaced stalker and mantis as creepiest foe ever.
I'm sorry I know
I got a one in a million chance of it working so I just took it and bounced
CrimsonFist
Member
I found it yeah, you don't have to beat the Reaper, just go into the Nurses Office a second time after she's given you the Reaper quest.
If a charecter uses a link skill on a shadow, the next one to attack that shadow will trigger the link and deal extra damage. You can boost the number of times and damage it does with various link buff skills. So it would go:
Elec Link -> Attack -> (Link is triggered) -> Attack -> Attack
or if the charecter using the link has the double link passive:
Elec Link -> Attack -> (Link is triggered) -> Attack -> (Link is triggered) -> Attack
The Silver
Member
4th dungeon, 4th floor, got everything mapped and I just need to go through those shrine things to open the door.
Only problem is.....I forgot the order.......
Only problem is.....I forgot the order.......
CrimsonFist
Member
I'm currently playing at Risky using P3 cast after a some hiatus due to playing other games. Onto the 2nd dungeon, FOE walking toward me, just beside me, then I got a random encounter, met the random enemy to beat, then all of a sudden it changed into an FOE battle...FUCK THAT SHIT LUCK! I almost threw my 3DS XL out of rage as I lost 2 level ups, tons of materials, and all shortcuts I saw in 90% of my exploration! Now I have to do that all over again...
The Silver
Member
HURRAY
Sigh... Here I go again. I'm currently on the first floor of the fourth labyrinth and I have serious trouble with
those bonfires. I've managed to locate the stairs to the next floor already but I can't access them since the door is blocked by one of those holy bonfire things. The problem is that I can't find a bonfire that is close enough to let me either open that sealed door directly or to let me light the bonfire right next to the door. I think I checked every other path as well but I always get roadblocked by FOEs...
MetalGearOnlineK
Member
Is anyone else on a long break from the game? I played a lot the first week, getting up to maybe half way through the first floor of the 3rd labirynth, then I decided to take a break to avoid burn out. I haven't really felt the need to go back yet. Anyone else have the same thing happen?
I'll finish the game, I just don't know when.
I'll finish the game, I just don't know when.
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
OH MY GOD I SPENT ALL NIGHT AND THIS MORNING TRYING TO DEFEAT THE GOD DARN OLD DOLL FOE. EVERY 10 TURNS SHE USED DIARAHAN, PROCEDEED TO CURSE MY PARTY WHICH I HAD TO WASTE A TURN USING ME PATRA, TENTARAFOO AND HAMAON NEVER HIT AND WHEN SALOME'S KISS (bind) DID IT ONLY LASTED LIKE ONE OR TWO TURNS. WHEN I HAD EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL MAMUDOON KILLED ALL OF THEM AT ONCE. I ONCE REACHED THE LIMIT OF 99 TURNS
I then used the last idea available...THE SPIRAL SWORD! With it, I managed to confuse the enemy, which remained in that status until her defeat, and she hit herself every turn resulting in a crit, and thanks to P3MC, Yosuke and Yukari which had Cut/Pierce normal attacks I could enter in boost and use other attacks + All Out Attack. Aki helped too with Fatal End and Ziodyne, and Kanji, oh Kanji, I was able to use Bestial Roar, Power Charge andd Orb of Power to result into a +1000 damage Lightning Strike. I defeated her in like 11 or 12 turns I think.
And that friends, is how Inaba was founded...
I then used the last idea available...THE SPIRAL SWORD! With it, I managed to confuse the enemy, which remained in that status until her defeat, and she hit herself every turn resulting in a crit, and thanks to P3MC, Yosuke and Yukari which had Cut/Pierce normal attacks I could enter in boost and use other attacks + All Out Attack. Aki helped too with Fatal End and Ziodyne, and Kanji, oh Kanji, I was able to use Bestial Roar, Power Charge andd Orb of Power to result into a +1000 damage Lightning Strike. I defeated her in like 11 or 12 turns I think.
And that friends, is how Inaba was founded...
The opposite. I don't want to stop playing, but I need to since I don't wanna end the game too fast. lol
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Urgh, can someone just tell me how to do the convey a secret message quest?
Also third dungeon boss is super easy when your poison circles and binds trigger all the time.
Also third dungeon boss is super easy when your poison circles and binds trigger all the time.
CrimsonFist
Member
The numbers refer to the number of doors in a room, the final "2" is the room that you start in with the power spot, and X is a secret passage in the SW corner of that room.