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Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth |OT| -- No Dating, Just Dungeons
- Thread starter Volcynika
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I called up and they said they cancelled my pre-order because it's sold out online.
I pre-ordered in store. My cash has vanished along with it apparently.
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snow in jamaica
Member
Use Chuck.
//ARCANUM
Member
wait what. they took your money and said your order had been canceled and aren't giving you back the money? do you have your email receipt?
TatteredHat
Member
Muted voices all the way, that's how I played P4G as well.
The only thing that shows up in my BestBuy RewardZone order history is Pre-order for $5.
I never got any e-mails for cancellation or anything. They said they're supposed to refund my money at the store, but there is no records at the store for the rest of my money. I think somebody fucked up my order in the computer.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Typical Best Buy fuckery. I suggest you try to hunt down another copy at another retailer of the LE while you tear down the walls of Best Buy customer service.
FYI, it doesn't look like they were ever going to stock or ship them to their B&M stores. It was never available for in-store pick-up at any point during the preorder period, so whoever took your preorder really goofed it.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
So I played during my long ass break at work(3 hours), I turned on auto map for like 5 minutes and it was horrible so that went back to off, I did play in Normal till I was around level 5 and I'm now back to Hard, I also REALLY recommend to set the speed to the fastest because seeing those slow animations got old really fast.
I also now appreciate EO way more in the sense that it let's me play the damn game really fast, the characters in here didn't shut up for like 30 minutes when I just wanted to play the damn game, even if Elizabeth and Aigis made me laugh(P3 route ftw).
What can I say, it's enjoyable so far and the production values are pretty nice. My team is:
MC/ Mitsuru /Aigis
Yukari/Rei
I really enjoyed how when Liz opened the shop and Inn and made up a stupid reason to why it's going to cost money.
I also now appreciate EO way more in the sense that it let's me play the damn game really fast, the characters in here didn't shut up for like 30 minutes when I just wanted to play the damn game, even if Elizabeth and Aigis made me laugh(P3 route ftw).
What can I say, it's enjoyable so far and the production values are pretty nice. My team is:
MC/ Mitsuru /Aigis
Yukari/Rei
I really enjoyed how when Liz opened the shop and Inn and made up a stupid reason to why it's going to cost money.
//ARCANUM
Member
yes i think it sucks that they didn't deliver the item, but the even BIGGER issue is that it was 100% paid for and now they're not giving a refund...
you need to go in to the store and raise hell.
MetalGearOnlineK
Member
Okay, so a couple of hours in now. I started with the P3 MC, but it didn't feel right for whatever reason, so I switched to P4 and have no regrets. I just unlocked the ability to have sub personae. Really liking the game so far. I have the game set to draw walls automatically but I enjoy filling in all of the little details by myself. One thing I'm super impressed with is the audio department. The music is great (Using earbuds), and the sheer amount of voice acting (Which has also been good) is awesome, hopefully it stays throughout the game like Virtue's Last Reward. I'll be disappointed if all of the production value is loaded into the first quarter of the game *coughNiNoKunicough*
I've been playing on normal, the battles have been fun. I decided to go back and try to fight an FOE after clearing the first dunegon floor and got REKT, so it will be satisfying to go back and kill those later on. I'm excited to get the P3 party. This could obviously change, but I'm hoping to use the 2 MCs, Aigis, Yukiko, and either Zen/Rin or someone else. The new charcters have been fine but the girl is a bit one dimensional so far.
In fact, that would probably be my only complaint so far, the characters. I know the cast is huge, and gameplay is taking priority over story in this game, but a lot of characters seemed to be dumbed down versions of themselves. Teddie pretty much only talks about girls. Oh well!
I've been playing on normal, the battles have been fun. I decided to go back and try to fight an FOE after clearing the first dunegon floor and got REKT, so it will be satisfying to go back and kill those later on. I'm excited to get the P3 party. This could obviously change, but I'm hoping to use the 2 MCs, Aigis, Yukiko, and either Zen/Rin or someone else. The new charcters have been fine but the girl is a bit one dimensional so far.
In fact, that would probably be my only complaint so far, the characters. I know the cast is huge, and gameplay is taking priority over story in this game, but a lot of characters seemed to be dumbed down versions of themselves. Teddie pretty much only talks about girls. Oh well!
Here's a late-game tip for anyone playing (it's not story-related, but I'll spoiler it just in case):
It makes sense when you get used to it. Movement's grid-based, which makes sense with a digital input, while the camera lets you look at pretty much any angle relative to the direction you're facing, so that's why it's on the circle pad.
In order to unlock the ultimate equipment and each character's exclusive skill, you'll need to complete a side quest that only opens after both heroes reach level 55 in the same playthrough. After completing it, any character will learn their skill after reaching level 55.
It makes sense when you get used to it. Movement's grid-based, which makes sense with a digital input, while the camera lets you look at pretty much any angle relative to the direction you're facing, so that's why it's on the circle pad.
Part of me's wondering if it just came down to a technical limitation, and the localization wasn't on Atlus Japan's minds as they were developing the game.
I think that might've been me. Q has three characters that work really well in either row Zen, Aigis, and late-game Yu. Zen has high stats across the board and can do whatever he wants, while Aigis is the game's tank and Yu can become a niche tank if you give him the right cards/sub-personas after he gets his exclusive skill. (It's unfortunately the only thing he excels at.)
Dunno, it's really unimportant stuff you don't need in any way. I've heard the free personas are even more useful than the ones you have to pay for.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
So the Protags are different? Is there one that is better than the other or should I just not care? I went P3.
Tribes of Trusty
Member
I completely forgot this was coming...so I went to various online retailers. One already had it in store (it's supposed to release the day after tomorrow here)...This and Pokémon, I'm going to be broke -_-
(the battle track is so hype. It might become a favourite of mine)
(the battle track is so hype. It might become a favourite of mine)
Thought it was done on purpose.
//ARCANUM
Member
can someone please explain this reference to me?
edit - the one referring to naming your character that name
MetalGearOnlineK
Member
Charlie Tunoku was the name used in Giant Bomb's Persona 4 Endurance Run (Which is a hilarious 155 episode Let's Play of Jeff and Vinny playing through the game.)
//ARCANUM
Member
ah gotcha, thank you!
Ah, okay. I haven't even started yet (probably won't get a good start until tomorrow) so it was just a quick little thing I noticed. I'm sure I'll get used to it once I start the actual game and spend some time using the d-pad.
P3MC is weak to Elec and Dark. P4MC is weak to Wind. P4MC gets better Vit and Str. P3 gets better Mag, Agi, Luc. The dark weakness is probably the biggest knock against the P3MC.
Somebody translated the Japanese wiki here for stats and abilities. Potential spoiler warning..
Resident4t.
Member
You are a smarter person than I.
Just got to the first battle. The battle theme on the Persona 4 side is AMAzing. Had to stop and listen to it for like 5 minutes.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I thought I could change personas with the MC and change my weaknesses like in their games, am I wrong?
You could give them a sub-persona to cancel out their weaknesses, yeah, same with any character. In Persona Q, the MC doesn't get special treatment. He has a fixed Main-Persona just like everybody else. Sub-Personas are the ones you can attach to anybody (including Fuuka/Rise), fuse together, call from the compendium, etc.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Ohhh, everything makes sense now, Thanks.
Ah.. that kinda sucks. I was gonna play risky with P3MC but that combo sounds terrible now.
Are there ways to cover a weakness eventually in this game? Equips or personas?
Damn, gotta rethink the risky or MC choice now.
EDIT: Okay so sub personas can help cover weakness. Still sucks I'd be limited to ones who negate dark for my mc so often. Rethinking this.
What do you hate about Persona? It'd help in answering.
Probably not. This is fanservice for P3 and P4 fans with some light Etrian trappings. It has much more of a story focus, and the game still really plays like Persona despite the Etrian influence.
They both have different stats and get access to different skills. The P3 hero is a mage and, despite getting a melee attack, is best in the back row thanks to having really high magic but low vitality. P4 Hero is a jack-of-all-trades, but unlike Zen, he doesn't have much going for him in his base skill set.
Unless the enemy is immune to all magic, the P3 hero will always out-damage the P4 hero, and even then, you have plenty of other, better muscle to pick up the slack. He does have better resistances, but that's easier to patch up than bad stats are.
Vague late-game story spoiler:
His exclusive skill is also the worst in the entire game, but there's another change that comes with getting that skill that makes him a good tank.
E_Darkness
Member
I'm still of the opinion that both Chie English voices are both bad and the fact people argue over which is better makes me sad.
Also P3MC is weak to dark? That's crazy. That is super crazy. I'm rethinking my choice of going P3MC first and on risky difficulty.
Though the dub in Persona is pretty solid, except a few voices.
Also P3MC is weak to dark? That's crazy. That is super crazy. I'm rethinking my choice of going P3MC first and on risky difficulty.
P3 Protag: Exceptional Magic and solid Strength/Speed/Luck. His vitality is low, which is somewhat of a concern if you use him in the front row. Using him in the backrow will keep him safe, but it'll weaken his physical skills, so make sure he's got some solid defensive equipment. Mudo weakness is somewhat of a problem, but manageable for the most part. Assuming you don't play on Risky that is. A magic caster that can fall back on melee skills if needed.
P4 Protag: Well rounded stat spread. Unlike most jack of all trades, all of his stats are average/above average (he has the highest stat total in the entire game). In particular, his endurance and SP stats are quite high so he can keep fighting for along time. In the lategame, he's nigh unkillable. Mudo immunity is invaluable, especially on Risky. A versatile fighter that can pretty much do anything.
I thought Sub Personas only influenced HP/SP and granted skills? I don't think they alter resistances.
If by "grandma" you mean "teen", and by 'best" you mean "toddler", then yes, I concur.
Just wasted my entire lunch break trying to get a copy from the nearby Frys. The website and their system showed the game as in stock, but they checked the shelves, warehouse, and even opened up all of that day's packages right in front of me but the game was nowhere to be found.
Now I'm trying to reserve it for in-store pickup at any other store on my way home but it's all out of stock. I might just download it but I really wanted those silly tarot cards.
Now I'm trying to reserve it for in-store pickup at any other store on my way home but it's all out of stock. I might just download it but I really wanted those silly tarot cards.
^Here is more tears for you. Original Chie is best Chie. ;p
This game is my Christmas present. No playing it until then.
If you dislike Persona because of Social Links, calendar structure, and repetitive randomized dungeons, then know Persona Q doesn't have these elements.
If you dislike Persona because you don't like the characters, dialogue, or persona-fusion mechanics, know Persona Q does incorporate these elements. (Persona Q has a lot of dialogue, even if the story itself is pretty skeletal.)
Battles are round-based, with a focus on elemental advantages similar to Persona.
If a Persona comes with a "Resist Dark" passive skill (as in, it actually occupies a skill slot), it would cancel out the weakness, I believe. I might be wrong though.
Ahhh.
Yeah, Personas that come with resist/null/etc skills will automatically overwrite resistances if they are superior.
I heard Alice was a good sub Persona for the P3 protag. I hope Thanatos also comes with resist Dark as well.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I like the sound of the P3 Protag being an amazing mage, so I'll keep using him.
CrimsonFist
Member
I get it Atlus, Youske likes nurses and the girls can't cook, does that really need bringing up in every single spinoff? I'm sure the nurses thing was literally one line in the original P4.
Japanese Chie sux. BOOM.
entremet
Member
The pacing of both games. They both seemed to take forever before they got decent.
I also hated Social Links and Calendar day to day structure.
been on hold with BB for nearly two hours.
Apparently there was no receipt issued for my $80 cash pre-order. only $5 pre-order charge.
which is odd since I pre-ordered Porject Diva and GTAV for the Xbone all on the same receipt and I currently have both of those games.
The only info about PersonaQ on my account shows a cancellation for my pre-order today and nothing else.
I think the BB clerk I pre-ordered with stole my money...
Apparently there was no receipt issued for my $80 cash pre-order. only $5 pre-order charge.
which is odd since I pre-ordered Porject Diva and GTAV for the Xbone all on the same receipt and I currently have both of those games.
The only info about PersonaQ on my account shows a cancellation for my pre-order today and nothing else.
I think the BB clerk I pre-ordered with stole my money...
//ARCANUM
Member
before i got to the end of this post i was thinking "that best buy employee stole $75 from you"