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Phil Spencer: Video games - A unifying force for the world
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Shut up, Phil.
Night.Ninja
Banned
I dont get all this negativity
Insane Metal
Member
Damn, all hail the hero Phil Spencer!
I don't think of it as negativity, I think of it as the reality of the situation. They (Microsoft) continue to act like they are center of the gaming universe (when they're actually in left field, pun intended) instead of doing the things they should be doing to compete. They are going to have to go to the gamer(s), not the other way around. He's out of touch with all this, nobody wants to hear this from Phil.
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Elcid
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I had a game of DOTA2 a few weeks ago where both sides started with the usual toxicity. We started insulting eachother's mothers, questioning everyone's sexuality, threatened physical harm, etc., we went HAM when it came to the insults.
By the end of it, all 10 of us came out and said that was the most fun in a DOTA game we had ever had. We all laughed, commended the other team, and some of us kept playing together.
Toxicity is a beautiful thing. Safe spaces are bullshit.
By the end of it, all 10 of us came out and said that was the most fun in a DOTA game we had ever had. We all laughed, commended the other team, and some of us kept playing together.
Toxicity is a beautiful thing. Safe spaces are bullshit.
thelastword
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It's because I don't think Mattrick is a supervillain or anything close to what Xbox fans declare him to be. They support Spencer only because he is there now, but what has Spencer delivered exactly?.... relative to what matters.... the games, where are they?So because Mattrick was a confirmed supervillain, Phil must be one too?
I'm typically among the first in line to give MS the ol' side-eye but that's a bit of a leap in logic.
I see people praise him and say how he's changed Xbox, but if his delivery is a changed Xbox, it's looking likely that I will never have reason to buy an Xbox console again....... Nobody cares about Phil insulting people's intelligence by posturing himself as the good guy in gaming, people don't need a suit mascot from Redmond, they need games that's all, not games in PR, but good games on disc, from good studios....
Build the games, deliver them, ensure they are great quality, tis all.....No need to talk, just do it....
Kacho
Gold Member
I think it's mostly because this comes across as meaningless grandstanding. Who is he speaking to with this blog exactly? Lil' Timmy and his mom sure as shit aren't reading this but core gamers are. Go take a look at the responses to his tweet about this blog. It's hilarious.
Meanwhile the Xbox brand has been in the gutter for six+ years and they lost a lot of core gamers during that time. You think the vast majority of them give a single fuck about what he said here when they still have so much to prove in key areas? Zero chance.
And since when has gaming been considered not safe or inclusive? Like come on. Are we supposed to think that people will start gravitating to games they didn't play before because the “Defenders of Joy” are on the case?
Stinky.
I agree for the most part. Phil is stuck between a rock and a Nadella.
I kind of feel bad for Phil, tough job going forward, imo. Not much he can do but go along with the plan, they better have some games or even Nadella will probably throw him to the wolves.
thelastword
Banned
MS this while gen has been a meme palace.... They've created so many eye rolling themes this gen....
Power of the cloud, beta tested in the future, highest quality pixels, you know you will gets 1080p output on your screen right? So many gems this gen and still they're not done..........
This new one is probably the best so far...... "Defenders of Joy"...... I hope MS gives me the right to direct this new TV show, because I have so many ideas already..... Defenders of Joy??? ..... Would you believe it......
Power of the cloud, beta tested in the future, highest quality pixels, you know you will gets 1080p output on your screen right? So many gems this gen and still they're not done..........
This new one is probably the best so far...... "Defenders of Joy"...... I hope MS gives me the right to direct this new TV show, because I have so many ideas already..... Defenders of Joy??? ..... Would you believe it......
thelastword
Banned
Well, I guess it depends on what you feel it meant.......For the gamers to me meant..... "we will deliver the games".... Obviously your experience may vary, but I felt they hit it out the park there.....
HotPocket69
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48086
Member
Yeah, I understand what you are saying and agree they did a good job! I just think both phrases are super cringy.
Barakov
Member
And now Microsoft is going ham on this stuff. What is Spencer and the rest of XBOX smoking?
Perfect front man for Xbox.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Doing that and not committing to privacy above all... mmmh. scary... from any company saying/doing that.
HeresJohnny
Member
That's quite the blustery bit of PR-speak there, Phil. I've always thought of them as bubblegum pop entertainment that usually doesn't age very well. Phil makes it sound like it's The Avengers or something lol.
Insane Metal
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FIFY
TLZ
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48086
Member
Nah, I meant what I said. Thanks though.
Jon Neu
Banned
Well, we are fucking tired of this virtue signalling bullshit.
MayauMiao
Member
Keeping his platform and community safe I understand but good god the article made him sound pretentious with a savior complex.
JustP_Gaming
Banned
This E3 will be very interesting. I hope you all will admit you were wrong if Phil delivers. If not then feel free to shoot those negative darts.
Whitecrow
Banned
in my head I just had this scene where the E3 MS conference starts with a strong male voice, with the lights off:
"All Hail the Saviour of Gaming, Phil Spencer"
Then a light focus on him, and he screams:
-"Long live to gaming, diversity and inclusion!"
And the crowd:
-"Long live XBOX!"
And a lot of candles lights on the entire room.
"All Hail the Saviour of Gaming, Phil Spencer"
Then a light focus on him, and he screams:
-"Long live to gaming, diversity and inclusion!"
And the crowd:
-"Long live XBOX!"
And a lot of candles lights on the entire room.
ANIMAL1975
Member
A good friend of mine that is familiar with the people at Xbox gaming staff , just told me that they were blindsided in the making of this article to Ms blog. The team was caught off guard by the release, managers had to calm people, and assure them that plans for the company to continue make games, will not be affected, said salesman analyst that asked to not be identified.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Too bad X-Force was already taken, eh?
I look at it a little differently, nobody really cares if EA, Activision, or (insert big publisher) delivers at E3.... not really. The console warz as they were are coming to an end, if Microsoft can show some good games (as we have discussed) than that is good, and release information as to what alternative platforms/stores/devices they might support in the future.
The 800 lbs. gorilla in the room is this stupid and silly marketing/pr crap doesn't stop, its non-stop day and night. So... at this point, I'm not interesting in the Microsoft Store (UWP), I'm not interested in Xbox as a brand, I'm not interested in Xbox as a Platform Service, I'm not interested in Xbox as a Hardware, etc. But if they don't shut the fuck up, I'll probably not want to buy their games even if they come to my device/platform of choice. Its getting to point of buying games from EA or Denis Dyack for me - which I don't do or won't do going forward.
Microsoft is very lucky to have their existing customers not leaving at a quicker rate, this is top notch out of touch marketing. What they are doing isn't working and its not going to work, but they keep running the same plays.
The Cartographer
Member
Define ''delivers''.
Because people have been saying that Xbox has been ''delivering'' at E3 for the past 5-6 years (especially last year) but most of those show were mostly multiplatform game presentations, at least in my opinion.
Vawn
Banned
Phil has delivered many times at E3. The problem is those games he promises either get canceled, are really bad, or never really existed in the first place.
I'll happily apologize when Xbox starts releasing quality exclusives again. I'll bring my Xbox One back out of storage too.
joe_zazen
Member
Deliver, as in he will unify the world via gaming.
I hope we see footage of the airforce using microsoft software and xbox controllers to kill children at weddings. “Use the controller the US military uses to unify the middle east through death from above!” Then a montage of actual dead humans and their mangled bodies, and an interview with a drone pilot explaining how asymmetrical sticks allow for less thumb fatigue and more dead babies.
“Use the gear Trump’s soldiers use!” Then maybe a Presidential animatronic from Disneyland could explain how America ruling the planet is a good thing, and how gaming being run by a trillion dollar American company is a key plank in that.Different people, different goals, different, intentions, different vision/mission. Plus, Mattrick left them with a lot of cleaning up to do, and they did a great job.
I don't know why you people are so ridiculous, and why other people who are equally ridiculous thumb you guys up. Smfh
The problem (or your problem or Xbox users problem) is its not Phil, its Nadella. His vision of the company is not what you guys want as a consumer, so you're in total conflict with the goals of the company. (generally speaking) Microsoft has a chance to produce games (applications) and services, just like they do now on mobile platforms of all kinds. Phil has a very tough job, convince you that Nadella doesn't exist until Nadella has everything in place, the issue is... many of those things are taking very long and will continue to take very long to roll out.
What's the difference between a game or a web application to Nadella? Nothing, they both can be run from a cloud service from which Microsoft can charge on subscription.
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Klayzer
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I get Xbox is going to a more service oriented gameplan, but even its harshest critics like yourself will have to admit, Xbox will not leave its millions of customers without some type of hardware to sell its subscriptions and games. They can satisfy both styles of fans.
Dlacy13g
Member
First off that is a ridiculous stance... Game companies can do as they wish and don't need to be compelled by courts to do things that envelope bringing safety and security to their ecosystems. Secondly, I hate the break it to you but mail service companies like the US Postal Service, UPS and others do have processes in place to identify potentially harmful/dangerous/illegal packages and can / will open them to inspect them if they suspect such a thing.
DeepEnigma
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Pallas
Member
I bet Nadella does, which would be Sony’s equal who made the comment.
Wouldn’t know, he hasn’t made that statement yet afaik I just thought it was a really weird comment compare to all of the success. It may not be comparable to what Spencer said but frankly it’s all starting to sound like PR whenever one of the big three make a statement.
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ProgenitorCastle
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Video games: A unifying force for the world
My father, a chemical engineer, brought home our first computer, a Sinclair ZX81, which came out in 1981. We played games together and then later, we wrote games together.
Today, for many people around the world, gaming is the first entry point into technology, just like it was for me.
I believe in two fundamental truths about gaming:
First, gaming is for everyone. No one group “owns” gaming. Instead, whether you’re new to gaming or are a diehard e-sports fan, you are welcome to play and welcome to all the fun and skill-building that comes with gaming. In this way, when everyone can play, the entire world wins.
If you imagine gamers as predominantly men and specifically teen boys, think again. We are a 2.6 billion-person strong community of parents playing with our kids, adventurers exploring worlds together, teachers making math wondrous, grandmothers learning about their grandchildren through play, and soldiers connecting with their folks back home. Most gamers today are adults; nearly half are women.
Second, gaming must promote and protect the safety of all. Gaming must be a safe environment. Creating community is shared work, and protecting community is essential work, so, we all carry part of the payload of community safety – game industry and gamers alike.
This widespread embrace of gaming and its global communities have turned video games into the world’s leading cultural industry, bigger than movies or music. But it also comes at a time when digital life includes a growing toxic stew of hate speech, bigotry and misogyny.
No different from rock and roll, books and TV before them, video games are often dismissed or maligned as frivolous, fraught with violence or filled exclusively with hate-mongering. But gaming is uniquely designed for equality. We don’t just walk in someone’s shoes – we stand on equal footing, regardless of age, education, socioeconomics, race, religion, politics, gender, orientation, ethnicity, nationality, or ability. Gaming doesn’t just bring stereotype-defying gamers together; it unites us through our universal language of fun and answers our human need to play. Research has shown an effective way to battle polarization and prejudice is through relationships with people outside our own groups, known as intergroup contact theory. This is where gaming excels: forging unexpected friendships with people we might never meet in real life. Dr. Linda Tropp, a professor of psychology at University of Massachusetts Amherst, observes, “As an interactive form of entertainment, gaming environments have the potential to bring people together for collaborations across differences, and to build empathy and mutual understanding through play.”
When people call video games a waste a time, I point them to the well-documented health and social benefits of gaming. Beyond pure exhilaration, gaming helps children with autism make new friends and seniors with Alzheimer’s improve their memory. Researchers have found that gaming teaches adults leadership, improves decision-making and reduces stress and depression and also teaches kids computational skills and empathy. Gaming is the gateway to these 21st century skills and to STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math). Just consider: teen girls who play video games are three times more likely to pursue a STEM degree. Among teenagers who play games online with others daily, 74% have made friends online and 37% have made more than five friends online.
By uniting as an industry, we can thoughtfully and deliberately continue building a safe and inclusive gaming environment for everyone. Microsoft, Team Xbox, and I are personally committing to this, beginning with the following principles and actions:
We commit to be vigilant, proactive, and swift. Our Xbox Safety team is nicknamed the “Defenders of Joy” because we will defend you in every humanly and technologically possible way, so gaming remains fun. We will identify potentials for abuse and misuse on our platform and will fix problems quickly. We are also intent on expanding the composition of our safety team so wide-ranging perspectives can help us identify future safety problems and solutions. Because hate and harassment have no place in gaming, we recently published a refreshed version of our Xbox Community Standards to communicate how each of us can keep gaming fun and safe for all and detail the consequences when any of us break these standards. A welcoming community is the key to a safe community, so our 150,000 Xbox Ambassadors – community leaders, stewards, and allies – will be engaged to embark on new community missions to help create an inviting and safe environment for all gamers. We will also continue to roll out new programs for the health of our entire gaming community.
We commit to empowering you to safeguard your gaming experience the way you want. We believe in equipping you with the tools to customize your gaming experience fit for your personal comfort level. This summer, we are empowering our official Club community managers with proactive content moderation features that will help create safe spaces for fans to discuss their favorite games. We plan to roll out new content moderation experiences to everyone on Xbox Live by the end of 2019. Creating a Child or Teen Account is the easiest way for parents and guardians to manage who their kids engage with as well as their family’s screen time, content and spending. While more than 26 million Child and Teen accounts have been created to-date, we will make it easier for parents and guardians new to console and PC gaming to discover and create Child or Teen accounts. This year, Microsoft Stores rolled out a series of family workshops to help parents understand the tools available to them on console and PC, and this summer we are launching Gaming Summer Camps offering young gamers new ways to explore life skills and practice healthy habits that can be used in gaming and everyday life. Additionally, we recently launched a new “For Everyone” destination on Xbox.com where parents, guardians and players can learn how we’re making gaming more fun for everyone with our new inclusivity, accessibility, and safety features. We’re innovating now in these and other concrete ways to reduce, filter, and develop a shared understanding of toxic experiences, and to ultimately put our community of gamers, and their parents or guardians, in control of their own experiences.
We commit to working across the gaming industry on safety measures. Because we intend to protect all gamers, we will openly share safety innovations with our industry the same way Microsoft has made PhotoDNA technology universally available to everyone from the police to the tech industry to fight the spread of child pornography. Today, multiple teams working in areas like moderation, user research, data science, and others are already aligning with industry partners to share insights, and best practices in areas of safety, security and privacy.
The gaming community continues to grow rapidly, and the imminent roll-out of new game services such as Apple Arcade, Google Stadia and Microsoft’s Project xCloud, will make gaming available to even more people worldwide. Our industry must now answer the fierce urgency to play with our fierce urgency for safety.
We invite everyone who plays games, and industry partners, to join us in following these principles to help unify the world and do our part: make gaming accessible for everyone and protect gamers, one and all.
Source: MS Blog
Love this message dearly. I believe and agree with it. When I was young, gaming united me and my cousins together (who were normally rivals)...specifically, the PC version of Megaman X4. We'd take turns at trying to beat the Mavericks, and we'd share our tactics so that each time someone died, the next person to try would have an even better chance at defeating the Maverick. I truly do believe video games are a unifying force for the world.
Slings and Arrows
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It looks like Microsoft will talking about a different Tv Tv Tv this time. (transvestite, LBGTQ inclusion and diversity joke)
Games bring people closer together? Oh yeah, Gaf and REEE are getting along swimmingly.
Games bring people closer together? Oh yeah, Gaf and REEE are getting along swimmingly.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I think he used that word in a business sense to Japanese translation, it makes perfect sense with what he's trying to convey.
Niche - Definition, Meaning & Synonyms
A niche is a space that's all your own, from a literal corner or enclosure to some kind of professional specialty. Like finding a niche in the scented soaps market with peanut butter body wash and winning over a loyal, if not nutty, following.
www.vocabulary.com
Hence why both companies are trying to expand beyond just little plastic boxes to a more mainstream and Global Avenue with multiple entertainment ventures connected at its source.
It's just gamers and fanatics like to take everything said as an attack, as if the word 'niche' is such a bad word, when in the vocabulary context above, it's pretty dead on in the business sense.
Damian black
Member
Dont console war like this. Unnecessary.
Irrelevant like their useless console.
You cant showcase multyplatform games, when you have the console with least customers.
You dont get people on board with multyplats on year 5-6 of the generation.
But of course I dont expect xbots to understand this.
They need to either walk on the left side of the road, or walk on the right side of the road.... walk in middle you get squashed just like grape. They need to rapidly speed up their transition, if they have any hopes of retaining their customers. I actually never said they wouldn't release more hardware, on the contrary, they don't seem to want to stop.... despite nobody buying their pitch.
The only thing that Microsoft can really possibly offer the gaming world is games, all the rest of this is generally not going to work.
Nobody wants hear about Games as a Promise (GaaP), I mean Games as a Service (GaaS)
Nobody wants to hear about the Infinite power of DA CLOUD
Nobody wants to hear about they have the new most powerful created console to replace the existing most powerful created console
Nobody wants to hear about your Xbox One is future proof because of DA CLOUD
Nobody wants to hear about game streaming
Nobody wants to hear about Xbox as a Service Platform
Nobody wants to hear about Diversity
Nobody wants to hear about Inclusion
Nobody wants to hear about yet another failed Microsoft digital store, or how they are going to fix it
Gamers want to hear about games, and what platforms/devices they will be able to play them on.
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spandexmonkey
Banned
Gaming was a unifying force, back when you checked politics at the door. The same people he's signaling to are the very ones who turned it into a sharply divided clusterfuck.
Elenchus
Banned
“Getting people on board” is not the problem or concern of the consumer. Anyone buying an Xbox had more content than they could possibly finish. MS’s issues with selling units is MS’s problem.
When I decided I wasn’t going to buy another Hyundai I went back to the dealer and yelled at him; not every person driving a Sonata I happened to pass on the way there.
Take up company concerns with the company and stay outta the face of fans.