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[xool]

They have been pushing those $1 deals too often for me to believe in its success.

Isn't it just a standard introductory offer that converts into a full sub after 1 month.. (and can you cancel and re-apply for $1 deal - I guess not) .. the introductory offer doesn't really mean a lot about the sucess



[other] 4% of 50 million XboxOne owners is 2 million - pretty easy number to reach ..

 

[LittleBusters]

I heard somewhere that XBox Game Pass has ~10 million paying subs.

 

[DanielsM]

I heard somewhere that XBox Game Pass has ~10 million paying subs.

Where did you hear it?

I seriously doubt they have 10m subscribers at $9.99 a month at one time, my guess way below 1m. I'm still confused as to why all the talk about a rental program, it would be like 10 threads a day talking about PS Now or GameFly. I would imagine they have around 15m XBLG subscribers at or near full price $40-60 per year. There is a reason why they selling it for $1 a month, if they could get $9.99 a month, they would be selling for $9.99 a month.

The attachment for PS Now is less then 1% of PS4 users, and PS Now allows people to stream that don't even have a PS4.

I think its cool if people can play games for basically nothing but that isn't sustainable.

 

[Nikana]

I never thought I'd see the day where a Service has so much biased hate. Never change gaf.

 

[ethomaz]

I heard somewhere that XBox Game Pass has ~10 million paying subs.

It has way less subs than PS Now for example and I don't believe there is 10 million PS Now subs kkkkk

 

[Journey]

Because it's the best way to take about the success of a platform.

Xbox is a successful platform. The days of worrying about your console of choice dying out to the competition like Turbo Graphics 16, 3DO, Jaguar, Dreamcast, etc., is no longer a concern. At least it made sense to check the health of a company before investing, but now it's just fanboyism lol.

 

[LittleBusters]

I never thought I'd see the day where a Service has so much biased hate. Never change gaf.

The hate is born of envy and fear. They know Game Pass is going to be a pillar of XBox and a major system seller soon if not now.

 

[DanielsM]

The hate is born of envy and fear. They know Game Pass is going to be a pillar of XBox and a major system seller soon if not now.

Everyone has a rental program. I remember when Game Pass was going to sell a billion consoles.

The console warz are over, all Game Pass is, is a rental program, its just people invested in PS don't jump up and down and scream about rental/streaming as they have them and there really isn't anything to get excited about. I'm so confused. I see nothing really wrong with Game Pass per se, I don't think its going to work out as envisioned but nothing really different than PS Now or other rental services.

Xbox systems sales have continue to drastically go down since Game Pass was released, I'm not sure what planet you're on but I would suggest moving the goal post outside the stadium. I think you might want to listen to Little Phil as he has some surprises for you coming down the line.

 

[mckmas8808]

Xbox is a successful platform. The days of worrying about your console of choice dying out to the competition like Turbo Graphics 16, 3DO, Jaguar, Dreamcast, etc., is no longer a concern. At least it made sense to check the health of a company before investing, but now it's just fanboyism lol.

It is a successful platform, but in what form? Does MS like being more about services? Or will they be equally happy doing services "AND" hardware?

 

[Jigsaah]

Isn't it just a standard introductory offer that converts into a full sub after 1 month.. (and can you cancel and re-apply for $1 deal - I guess not) .. the introductory offer doesn't really mean a lot about the sucess



[other] 4% of 50 million XboxOne owners is 2 million - pretty easy number to reach ..

This is said about a company who gave windows 10 away for a year for free.

Windows 10 must not be successful either

 

[meirl]

Good for you, but the majority do not. Lots of those subs came from $1.

Can I get some numbers and receipts please for this?

 

[DanielsM]

Can I get some numbers and receipts please for this?

Nobody has numbers on anything but there are tons of $1 deals, and they keep rolling them out. I would think it would be very silly for someone to be paying $9.99 when you can get it for $1. If they can get customers at $9.99 a month, you don't just give it away for free. Of course, they're locking the whales in on XBLG.

Little Phil got money to throw away into the fire from Uncle Satya.

Here's how to save up to $360 on Xbox Game Pass over 3 years

If you follow these steps, you can turn your paid Xbox Live Gold subscription into up to 36 months of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate for $1.

www.cnet.com

 

[demigod]

Ok you're simply delusional. I get it. Duly noted.

Calling people delusional is one way to dodge the subject. Run Away~. I like how you acted so tough yesterday and laughed, not laughing now are you?

Can I get some numbers and receipts please for this?

Go back to page 2 and look at it, better yet just go ask your saviour Phil for the receipt and ask him why 9.5million subs is losing to PSNow.

 

[Jigsaah]

Calling people delusional is one way to dodge the subject.



Go back to page 2 and look at it, better yet just go ask your saviour Phil for the receipt and ask him why 9.5million subs is losing to PSNow.

I'm not dodging the subject. I responded multiple times only to get your hastily generalized answers and thoughtless speculation. I don't like wasting my time having conversations with people who seem incapable of intelligent debate. To end this, I'll just list the digital vomit you've put on this thread alone.

1. "Millions and Millions" as Phil said = 2 million to you.
2. When I call you out on #1, you respond by suggesting I want it to be 10 million, to which I responded that I want it to be whatever it actually is. I never put a number on it, because Phil never put a number on it.
3. You assert that Microsoft counts dead accounts and free subs with absolutely no proof whatsoever.
4. You attempt to defend #3 by saying that all companies do this...another hasty generalization.

I don't want to call you an idiot, because that would be mean and I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just saying you don't seem to have the capacity to carry out a thoughtful unbiased argument with any form of evidence to support your points. Therefore, I don't feel it's worth my time to have this conversation with you. Hopefully you understand now.

I'm going to move on now.

 

[demigod]

I'm not dodging the subject. I responded multiple times only to get your hastily generalized answers and thoughtless speculation. I don't like wasting my time having conversations with people who seem incapable of intelligent debate. To end this, I'll just list the digital vomit you've put on this thread alone.

1. "Millions and Millions" as Phil said = 2 million to you.
2. When I call you out on #1, you respond by suggesting I want it to be 10 million, to which I responded that I want it to be whatever it actually is. I never put a number on it, because Phil never put a number on it.
3. You assert that Microsoft counts dead accounts and free subs with absolutely no proof whatsoever.
4. You attempt to defend #3 by saying that all companies do this...another hasty generalization.

I don't want to call you an idiot, because that would be mean and I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just saying you don't seem to have the capacity to carry out a thoughtful unbiased argument with any form of evidence to support your points. Therefore, I don't feel it's worth my time to have this conversation with you. Hopefully you understand now.

I'm going to move on now.

The only one delusional is you, you and your gamepass billion-dollar a year service. You still haven't explained why a 9.5mil sub monthly is losing to 700k or whatever Sony has for PSNow if you think companies do not count unused accounts.

Xbox Game Pass estimated to have over 9.5 million monthly subscribers. Accounts for "impressive" Percentage of overall revenue.

> Microsoft has not revealed exact subscriber numbers for Game Pass, but we have learned that there are currently some 9.5 million monthly users. Game Pass is an attractive proposition for publishers and developers because Microsoft pays out to developers each time a game is installed. It has...

www.neogaf.com

DId you really just bring up an article from 9 months ago?

Ok I'm done now. It's not worth debating you as you are incredibly biased. I shoulda just ignored you when you said "millions and millions" meant 2million. That was my first clue, and I followed that rabbit down the hole.

My bad, carry on.

So much for being done.

 

[kingwingin]

Those of us who got 3 years had to buy at least 35 months of other Xbox subs before paying the $1 conversion, so it wasn't really $1 for 3 years...

I meant the game pass part of the sub since I would have bought gold regardless

 

[Jigsaah]

Who

The only one delusional is you, you and your gamepass billion-dollar a year service. You still haven't explained why a 9.5mil sub monthly is losing to 700k or whatever Sony has for PSNow if you think companies do not count unused accounts.

Xbox Game Pass estimated to have over 9.5 million monthly subscribers. Accounts for "impressive" Percentage of overall revenue.

> Microsoft has not revealed exact subscriber numbers for Game Pass, but we have learned that there are currently some 9.5 million monthly users. Game Pass is an attractive proposition for publishers and developers because Microsoft pays out to developers each time a game is installed. It has...

www.neogaf.com

First of all who said anything about PS Now? This thread has nothing to do with PS Now. It's the fanboys like yourself who want to turn this into a competition.

Secondly, I cant even trust that what you're saying is even factual as you still haven't referenced anything showing this to be the case.

Third and last, get out of my post history, you might hurt yourself.

 

[demigod]

Who

First of all who said anything about PS Now? This thread has nothing to do with PS Now. It's the fanboys like yourself who want to turn this into a competition.

Secondly, I cant even trust that what you're saying is even factual as you still haven't referenced anything showing this to be the case.

Third and last, get out of my post history, you might hurt yourself.

Are you for real now? You keep dodging.

Edit:
Some actual math.

Sony subscriber count as of May 1, 2019.


700,000 / 90,000,000 = Roughly 0.0078 % of playstation owners use playstation now. 90 million consoles sold does not = 90 million unique owners. Some people own multiple consoles, own both PS4 and PS4 Pro, etc. So it's hard to calculate exactly which is why i say "roughly".

No bias, simple fact. It makes sense why. The pricing structure is terrible. They use the same approach they do with PS+ which is a huge mistake. People aren't paying 20 bucks a month and people don't wanna pay for a full year up front for the discount. Plus they barely advertise PS Now. All the pieces fit.

Yeah its not about PSNow yet you had to talk about it yourself, lol.

I'm bailing out of the thread since you have nothing else to add.

 

[Jigsaah]

Are you for real now? You keep dodging.



Yeah its not about PSNow yet you had to talk about it yourself, lol.

I'm bailing out of the thread since you have nothing else to add.

Who was I responding to...I didnt bring it up

 

[DanielsM]

Who

First of all who said anything about PS Now? This thread has nothing to do with PS Now. It's the fanboys like yourself who want to turn this into a competition.

Secondly, I cant even trust that what you're saying is even factual as you still haven't referenced anything showing this to be the case.

Third and last, get out of my post history, you might hurt yourself.

I agree in part, the reason why PS Now is brought up, at least on my part is to show there is limited demand for these type of things. So, if someone says Microsoft 10m subscribers at $120 a year, i remain suspect as the PS Now numbers are somewhat know. I actually think PS Now is generally the better deal, although I don't subscribe and most probably won't subscribe. (I have tested PS Now for streaming just for giggles) I guess someone could say Game Pass is selling systems, the problem I have with that one poster is.... if Game Pass is selling systems, what would the Xbox system sales be without Game Pass.... like 26?

I'm more confused as to why people are talking about Game Pass so much when all it really is just a rental program.

If Microsoft wants to invest many more billions into a whole bunch more studios and try and get this working, cool by me, I personally don't think its going to work but at least it beats the other prospect of people buying and eventually losing their games because they shutdown the Microsoft Store.

For the people that signed up for a long period of time for $1, that's not very sustainable long-term.... kind of like when Microsoft offered me buy 1 month of Groove Music and get 6 months free - after 3 months they shut the service down.

Look at the dates. Some of us have already been through this several times.

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If you've wanted to try out Groove Music, now is great time to do so with its Labor Day Deal, which is available until Sept. 5. Buy one month for $9.99 and get two free promo codes for three months...

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Microsoft is shutting down Groove Music in favor of Spotify

With music streaming services in large supply and at low cost, the competition has become too much for Microsoft's Groove Music service. Beginning on January 1, 2018,...

www.techspot.com

 

[Dabaus]

"Millions and Millions" sounds like damage control to me. In fact every interview from MS camp this E3 sounds like a concession. Anybody else noting that?

 

[Jigsaah]

"Millions and Millions" sounds like damage control to me. In fact every interview from MS camp this E3 sounds like a concession. Anybody else noting that?

No. It's literally just you...that should tell you something.

 

[DanielsM]

Let me show you a reason why I don't even think Microsoft could get more than a few 100 thousand Game Pass customers without free or heavy discounts. What you will find is Sony numbers actually match up with Microsoft in other subscription areas i.e. Playstation Plus/Xbox Live Gold subscriptions.

So... Microsoft stopped reporting XBLG subscription counts many years ago. In 2012, they report around 67m Xbox 360 units and 26m Xbox Live Gold subscribers, for around 38.8% attachment for the service.

So... pull up Sony's last quarters... reporting 96.8m units sold and they had 36.3m PS+ subscribers.... what do you think the percentage is? 37.5% attachment rate for the service.

My guess is Microsoft couldn't get subscribers so they went back to the free and $1 deals to get subscribers for GP, very similar to what Sony has been doing with PS Now. You don't sell a service for free or $1, if you can get $10. My guess is Microsoft might have gotten a few 100 thousand people to sign up during different deals, and probably has a good amount that come in when its free or $1. Completely possible they got a few million people to sign up for free or $1, duhhhhh, but as far as real paying customers - I seriously doubt they have many at full rate. This is going to be a tough business, which is why Sony doesn't really promote it much - its a loser business, generally speaking. Phil can't say this is a failure as he has only one direction i.e. SERVICES, without services Uncle Satya cancels the whole fucking thing.

My guess Microsoft currently has somewhere in the 15-20m XBLG subscribers range based on 43m units of Xbox One, plus a few Xbox 360 stragglers. At $9.99 for GP, I doubt they have anyone at all at those prices, generally speaking... none of this is sustainable.

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[DForce]

As a consumer, you folks wanna argue how much better Sony's services are doing, while altogether being basically fine with Sony raising it's prices for PS+ in Europe.

How wide is you posterior that you essentially don't feel how hard you're being fucked right now?

Gimme dat Game Pass Ultimate for a dollar all day anyday everyday, And leave my booty alone.

Don't you go around saying how MS services are better when they also upped the price for Xbox Live, too?

Xbox Live Gold price increases in UK due to 'market conditions'

That's quite a jump.

www.windowscentral.com

Fanboys just love to to deny anything that doesn't fit their narrative because they want to view almost anything as a success.

This news isn't surprising because they have been giving away subscriptions for a dollar for awhile now.


People are way more likely to jump at this deal than a $9.99 subscription.

All I keep seeing in this thread is that Xbox fans cannot accept the fact that the numbers are high because they're giving out subscriptions for a dallar.

And yes, a free 14-day trial counts as one, too.

It's like the people on here don't want to take anything less than calling this a huge success.

 

[Jigsaah]

Don't you go around saying how MS services are better when they also upped the price for Xbox Live, too?

Xbox Live Gold price increases in UK due to 'market conditions'

That's quite a jump.

www.windowscentral.com

Fanboys just love to to deny anything that doesn't fit their narrative because they want to view almost anything as a success.

This news isn't surprising because they have been giving away subscriptions for a dollar for awhile now.


People are way more likely to jump at this deal than a $9.99 subscription.

All I keep seeing in this thread is that Xbox fans cannot accept the fact that the numbers are high because they're giving out subscriptions for a dallar.

And yes, a free 14-day trial counts as one, too.

It's like the people on here don't want to take anything less than calling this a huge success.

I can't deny things I didn't know about to begin with. Therefore I'm not a fanboy and this equally fucking sucks.

 

[DForce]

I can't deny things I didn't know about to begin with. Therefore I'm not a fanboy and this equally fucking sucks.

You just talked about Sony fans accepting the high price and also praise their services.. Looks pretty hypocritical to me.

 

[Jigsaah]

You just talked about Sony fans accepting the high price and also praise their services.. Looks pretty hypocritical to me.

What part about "equally fucking sucks" don't you understand?

Microsoft raising the price sucks, Sony raising the price sucks. I did not know that Microsoft was raising the price prior to you posting this.

 

[killatopak]

A weapon to surpass MAU.

 

[AgentP]

Does he ever say active subscribers?

 

[DanielsM]

All I keep seeing in this thread is that Xbox fans cannot accept the fact that the numbers are high because they're giving out subscriptions for a dallar.

I think anyone saying any of these rental andor streaming models are successes are way early on the call - none of them really generate anything that I can see. If Microsoft wants to invest billions and billions into the service for the foreseeable future with huge losses, maybe one day they will have something in like 5-10 years.

I'm kind of confused as to why a traditional Xbox as a Hardware user would be excited about this though - Microsoft is basically saying if you don't move to PC we'll charge you significantly more money, "please get off the console". Basically, this will have to be a PC-centric subscription, eventually.

 

[Jigsaah]

Let me show you a reason why I don't even think Microsoft could get more than a few 100 thousand Game Pass customers without free or heavy discounts. What you will find is Sony numbers actually match up with Microsoft in other subscription areas i.e. Playstation Plus/Xbox Live Gold subscriptions.

So... Microsoft stopped reporting XBLG subscription counts many years ago. In 2012, they report around 67m Xbox 360 units and 26m Xbox Live Gold subscribers, for around 38.8% attachment for the service.

So... pull up Sony's last quarters... reporting 96.8m units sold and they had 36.3m PS+ subscribers.... what do you think the percentage is? 37.5% attachment rate for the service.

My guess is Microsoft couldn't get subscribers so they went back to the free and $1 deals to get subscribers for GP, very similar to what Sony has been doing with PS Now. You don't sell a service for free or $1, if you can get $10. My guess is Microsoft might have gotten a few 100 thousand people to sign up during different deals, and probably has a good amount that come in when its free or $1. Completely possible they got a few million people to sign up for free or $1, duhhhhh, but as far as real paying customers - I seriously doubt they have many at full rate. This is going to be a tough business, which is why Sony doesn't really promote it much - its a loser business, generally speaking. Phil can't say this is a failure as he has only one direction i.e. SERVICES, without services Uncle Satya cancels the whole fucking thing.

My guess Microsoft currently has somewhere in the 15-20m XBLG subscribers range based on 43m units of Xbox One, plus a few Xbox 360 stragglers. At $9.99 for GP, I doubt they have anyone at all at those prices, generally speaking... none of this is sustainable.

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Wait, Sony has a free or $1 deal for Ps Now?

 

[DForce]

What part about "equally fucking sucks" don't you understand?

Microsoft raising the price sucks, Sony raising the price sucks. I did not know that Microsoft was raising the price prior to you posting this.

Oh, you don't understand. You're "basically" going to be fine with it and still praise MS services. MS increased the price of Xbox Live multiple times, even in the US.

 

[DanielsM]

Wait, Sony has a free or $1 deal for Ps Now?

They continuously rollout 1 week free subscriptions, and deals, right now you can get annual for $69.99. I think you need to reread my post though.

 

[DForce]

I think anyone saying any of these rental andor streaming models are successes are way early on the call - none of them really generate anything that I can see. If Microsoft wants to invest billions and billions into the service for the foreseeable future with huge losses, maybe one day they will have something in like 5-10 years.

I'm kind of confused as to why a traditional Xbox as a Hardware user would be excited about this though - Microsoft is basically saying if you don't move to PC we'll charge you significantly more money, "please get off the console". Basically, this will have to be a PC-centric subscription, eventually.

I think they lost a lot of money with Crackdown 3. People played it a lot just for a single dollar and the physical sales were absolutely poor. I think they will slow down on these deals right before Gears 5 is released because I know they don't want the something to happen again twice (though, I do believe Gears 5 will do MUCH better physical than Crackdown 3).

 

[Jigsaah]

They continuously rollout 1 week free subscriptions, and deals, right now you can get annual for $69.99. I think you need to reread my post though.

I'm asking because I'm gonna see if I can try it out

 

[Lort]

Xbox game pass is a great service and a great price and is doing great... cue millions of playstation fans who hate game subscriptions and never wanted EA access... to line up to get into the thread.

 

[DanielsM]

I'm asking because I'm gonna see if I can try it out

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Xbox game pass is a great service and a great price and is doing great... cue millions of playstation fans who hate game subscriptions and never wanted EA access... to line up to get into the thread.

PS has their own rental program, its just not a big deal. (yet here we are, again)

For the record, I don't want anything to do with EA at all (period)

 

[Jigsaah]

I dont deny that the boost in numbers is in great part to their promotions, that's what promotions are for. But to see people saying they only have 100 thousand or so is basically calling Phil a liar with no evidence to disprove it. To automatically say its 2 million based on the words "millions and millions" is disengenuine. All of this is simple guessing.

I've already said I essentially dont have a preference on how many subscribers they have because i want it to be whatever the number actually is. I'm not reaching in any direction, positive or negative.

 

[TLZ]

I got a year's worth of live yesterday and they gave me an extra free month because I had recurring off (they turned it on and I turned it back off again after subbing), then a PC gamepass for $1, and I already had 2 months left of my $1 gamepass, then got the $1 ultimate gamepass and all the above got converted to Xbox gamepass ultimate that goes all the way to Nov 2020.

Glorious.

 

[DanielsM]

I got a year's worth of live yesterday and they gave me an extra free month because I had recurring off (they turned it on and I turned it back off again after subbing), then a PC gamepass for $1, and I already had 2 months left of my $1 gamepass, then got the $1 ultimate gamepass and all the above got converted to Xbox gamepass ultimate that goes all the way to Nov 2020.

Glorious.

I don't think anyone is deny Microsoft is giving away free stuff, obviously they are. Netflix is giving away $2-4b a year of free shit.

The question is - do they have a business here? (just my take)

 

[Jigsaah]

I got a year's worth of live yesterday and they gave me an extra free month because I had recurring off (they turned it on and I turned it back off again after subbing), then a PC gamepass for $1, and I already had 2 months left of my $1 gamepass, then got the $1 ultimate gamepass and all the above got converted to Xbox gamepass ultimate that goes all the way to Nov 2020.

Glorious.

I should have done that. I just converted to game pass ultimate and got my added months tacked on.

 

[Nikana]

Don't you go around saying how MS services are better when they also upped the price for Xbox Live, too?

Xbox Live Gold price increases in UK due to 'market conditions'

That's quite a jump.

www.windowscentral.com

Fanboys just love to to deny anything that doesn't fit their narrative because they want to view almost anything as a success.

This news isn't surprising because they have been giving away subscriptions for a dollar for awhile now.


People are way more likely to jump at this deal than a $9.99 subscription.

All I keep seeing in this thread is that Xbox fans cannot accept the fact that the numbers are high because they're giving out subscriptions for a dallar.

And yes, a free 14-day trial counts as one, too.

It's like the people on here don't want to take anything less than calling this a huge success.

It's the extreme of both ends. But there's certain people on here who act like they are financial gurus and know Microsoft's books and can predict the downfall.

When In reality they know nothing more than the people who support it do.

And the people who support it are more than happy. They are extremely satisfied with this new service and that's how things start to grow.

So would you rather be on the side of the people who think they know everything but in reality don't?

Or the side that's reaping the benefits and are excited?

Edit: tried to quote the part about people not being able to accept that they have millions because of $1 trials

 

[meirl]

Calling people delusional is one way to dodge the subject. Run Away~. I like how you acted so tough yesterday and laughed, not laughing now are you?



Go back to page 2 and look at it, better yet just go ask your saviour Phil for the receipt and ask him why 9.5million subs is losing to PSNow.

How are you even supposed to use PSNow when PSN is offline? Lol

 

[Lort]

Xbox game pass is a great service and a great price and is doing great... cue millions of playstation fans who hate game subscriptions and never wanted EA access... to line up to get into the thread.

Sorry i should have said millions and millions.

 

[Jigsaah]

Where did you hear it?

I seriously doubt they have 10m subscribers at $9.99 a month at one time, my guess way below 1m. I'm still confused as to why all the talk about a rental program, it would be like 10 threads a day talking about PS Now or GameFly. I would imagine they have around 15m XBLG subscribers at or near full price $40-60 per year. There is a reason why they selling it for $1 a month, if they could get $9.99 a month, they would be selling for $9.99 a month.

The attachment for PS Now is less then 1% of PS4 users, and PS Now allows people to stream that don't even have a PS4.

I think its cool if people can play games for basically nothing but that isn't sustainable.

He heard it here more than likely

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[DanielsM]

Well, if he believes they have 10m subscribers to Game Pass at $120 a year, I have a few bridges to sell him.

He heard it here more than likely

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Probably the same unofficial sources used last year to estimate PS Now revenue which wasn't even close when Sony disclosed last quarter. LOL

 

[Jigsaah]

Also important to note is that the article says Gamepass accounts for 30% of the division revenue. I can't confirm this to be true as it is coming from the same source. But what is the Xbox Division's revenue?

 

[DanielsM]

Also important to note is that the article says Gamepass accounts for 30% of the division revenue. I can't confirm this to be true as it is coming from the same source. But what is the Xbox Division's revenue?

Yeah, you might as well throw that article in the trash, there is no Xbox division.

 

[Jigsaah]

Well, if he believes they have 10m subscribers to Game Pass at $120 a year, I have a few bridges to sell him.


Probably the same unofficial sources used last year to estimate PS Now revenue which wasn't even close when Sony disclosed last quarter. LOL

Do you have the actual number's then?

 

[DanielsM]

Do you have the actual number's then?

Well, why not make it an even billion? That's not a source, it would be no different than me saying zero.... there isn't even a Xbox division at Microsoft.

Basically, you ended up giving the click bait artist 2 clicks, one for you and one for me.