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[DeepEnigma]

How bad are smart TVs, security-wise? I've been looking for a TV recently and trying to avoid smart TVs because a) it's a feature I won't use but might add to the cost and b) I heard of security issues for them. The problem is, I'm finding it increasingly hard to find a TV that DOESN'T have smart features.

Is it okay to just ignore the smart aspect of the TV and/or simply not connect it to my home network?

I had the same caution as you before purchasing.

The Android one on the Sony TV fully updated is the same firmware revision of 5.1.1 (Lollipop), and performs much better than it did at launch. I actually prefer using YouTube and Netflix on it over the PS4, since it performs really well.

If you are behind a firewall on your network (even better if you are masked), you should be fine. I have location services disabled (like I do on my phone for everything but maps and weather), and if you are feeling a little unsure, then do not sign into anything with linked accounts (i.e. Google).

And yes, you do not need to use any of the features. It is not required. You can disable the WiFi antenna, as well as the Bluetooth one to have it locked down further.

 

[Josh378]

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60294504/#/30294505 ?

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S19098474/#/S19098474 ?

The second is nicer but just over $150

Both of those links doesn't work for me, do you have another link (using cellphone)

 

[Josh378]

Currently, there is no benefit with console gaming. But there may be new consoles in the next 2-5 years that will take advantage of it. If you plan on replacing your TVs again in the next few years, then you could save a couple hundred dollars and get 1080p sets now. If, however, you want these TVs to be able to take advantage of PS4K (or PS5, etc.) then I would not cheap out now.

Besides, unless you are talking OLED, there's not a huge difference in price, IMO. Decent 4K LCD sets aren't really that expensive, and most of the 1080p sets that are out there are low-end models.

LG 9100 OLED for the bedroom, vizio p65 for the living room. Best long term (and cheaper) option.

 

[Akuun]

I had the same caution as you before purchasing.

The Android one on the Sony TV fully updated is the same firmware revision of 5.1.1 (Lollipop), and performs much better than it did at launch. I actually prefer using YouTube and Netflix on it over the PS4, since it performs really well.

If you are behind a firewall on your network (even better if you are masked), you should be fine. I have location services disabled (like I do on my phone for everything but maps and weather), and if you are feeling a little unsure, then do not sign into anything with linked accounts (i.e. Google).

And yes, you do not need to use any of the features. It is not required. You can disable the WiFi antenna, as well as the Bluetooth one to have it locked down further.

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind if I happen to find a TV that I like but happens to be smart.

Are there any recommendations for a 55 inch 1080p TV that'll be mainly used for gaming and maybe the occasional movie? Don't need smart or 3d or 4k. The budget is around $700 CAD, and I don't know if that's realistic or not.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Only issue I have with rtings.com calibration, is they do not get into the details for the color settings, and white balance, etc.. Why is that?

I thought they have that for some models? I could've sworn they had them for the JU7500 when I had it.

Anyway, one reason they could give is that there is a lot of variation from panel to panel, especially when it comes to the white balance. Just because their set was correct on these settings doesn't mean yours will be, and copying someone else's settings may make your set worse than it was out of box. Only a calibration on your set will give you the proper WB settings for your panel.

Is it okay to just ignore the smart aspect of the TV and/or simply not connect it to my home network?

Absolutely. Just don't hook it up to Ethernet or WiFi if you are worried that someone is going to hack your TV for some reason. As you said, most decent TVs are smart now and it really doesn't cost the TV manufacturer (and therefore you) much to include that functionality. It's basically just a way for them to differentiate between low and mid/high end sets now. I would not rule out good sets just because they are "smart".

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

I use movie mode for all of my input sources. I used the rtings.com calibration settings, and it looks great. The input lag just isn't noticeable to me, and I love fast paced action games.

I did have some problems with my one connect HDMI box, but an update solved those


The JS8500 is a great TV. Games and blu rays look fabulous on it.

Sounds good. I sent ya a pm by the way.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind if I happen to find a TV that I like but happens to be smart.

Are there any recommendations for a 55 inch 1080p TV that'll be mainly used for gaming and maybe the occasional movie? Don't need smart or 3d or 4k. The budget is around $700 CAD, and I don't know if that's realistic or not.

For that I would look into the Vizio models.

I was going to recommend the Sony KDLW800C, but noticed the Canadian price range is double (where you can get it in the States for $650-750).

 

[LostDonkey]

I asked in another thread, want to get some opinions in here before I shoot £799 on a TV.

Would there be any benefit going from a Panasonic 42" plasma 1080p set to a 40" 4k HDR set, also by Panasonic (LED).

Is 40" too small for 4k? I can get a 55 inch non HDR 4k set for around 100 cheaper as well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I thought they have that for some models? I could've sworn they had them for the JU7500 when I had it.

Anyway, one reason they could give is that there is a lot of variation from panel to panel, especially when it comes to the white balance. Just because their set was correct on these settings doesn't mean yours will be, and copying someone else's settings may make your set worse than it was out of box. Only a calibration on your set will give you the proper WB settings for your panel.

That makes sense, and figured it was something like that. Would be a good reference point. Do you recommend any good 'do it yourself'/discs to help? I was thinking this one if I could find it reasonably priced (seems out of print)...

http://movies.disney.com/disney-wow-world-of-wonder

Also seen that it was highly rated, especially for beginner calibrators from CNET and the like.

 

[BumRush]

Both of those links doesn't work for me, do you have another link (using cellphone)

Go to Ikea and search BESTÅ TV unit, walnut effect light gray and BESTÅ TV unit, Hanviken black-brown

The one with the drawers is nicer but it's 173 USD.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Also seen that it was highly rated, especially for beginner calibrators from CNET and the like.

I have the Disney WoW disc and it's pretty great. It will help you with most of the major settings. I don't think it will help you much with white balance though. People usually use professional software and colorimeters to adjust those.

Is 40" too small for 4k?

Unless you are sitting right in front of it, yes, IMO. Now if that set supports HDR and whatnot then there may be other benefits, but just a standard 4K LCD at 40" seems like a waste unless you're sitting right in front, monitor-style.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I have the Disney WoW disc and it's pretty great. It will help you with most of the major settings. I don't think it will help you much with white balance though. People usually use professional software and colorimeters to adjust those.

Thanks for the heads up. I would not even know where to begin for white balance, even with said software, lol. I will try to score one on the cheap to help with most of the basics.

 

[Akuun]

Thanks guys. Will do more research when I get home.

 

[LostDonkey]

Unless you are sitting right in front of it, yes, IMO. Now if that set supports HDR and whatnot then there may be other benefits, but just a standard 4K LCD at 40" seems like a waste unless you're sitting right in front, monitor-style.

I will be sitting just over arms length from the set. So pretty much monitor style.

It's the Panasonic Viera TX-40DX700B.

I'm flip flopping between it and a ROG swift at £525.

it's mainly for PC but will have some XB1 gaming as well. So I don't know whether to buy the Panny and use for both, or keep the 1080 set I have for the Xbox and get the upgrade for the PC and save myself £200.

I hate when it's time to upgrade lol

 

[Venuspower]

I will be sitting just over arms length from the set. So pretty much monitor style.

It's the Panasonic Viera TX-40DX700B.

I'm flip flopping between it and a ROG swift at £525.

it's mainly for PC but will have some XB1 gaming as well. So I don't know whether to buy the Panny and use for both, or keep the 1080 set I have for the Xbox and get the upgrade for the PC and save myself £200.

I hate when it's time to upgrade lol

If its mainly for PC => Go for the Rog Switft.
Input Lag of LED-TVs can be really annoying. Also with turned on PC/Gaming Mode.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

So we went to the store to check and see if they have the JS8500 on display and so we could demo it with a console. Turns out they only have the JU7500 there. Will my brother still get a good indication of the JS8500 is he demoes the JU7500?

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

So we went to the store to check and see if they have the JS8500 on display and so we could demo it with a console. Turns out they only have the JU7500 there. Will my brother still get a good indication of the JS8500 is he demoes the JU7500?

No. The JU7500 does not support the expanded color gamut and increased light output of HDR. Furthermore, the JU7500 is rear-lit as opposed to the JS8500 which is edge-lit so each of them will have different flaws related to their lighting method. Finally, the JU7500 has much less input-lag than the 8500, almost 16ms difference which is roughly1 frame. Most people can't tell the difference but some can. The point is that it's not close enough to the 8500 to be a valid test, IMO.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

No. The JU7500 does not support the expanded color gamut and increased light output of HDR. Furthermore, the JU7500 is rear-lit as opposed to the JS8500 which is edge-lit so each of them will have different flaws related to their lighting method. Finally, the JU7500 has much less input-lag than the 8500, almost 16ms difference which is roughly1 frame. Most people can't tell the difference but some can. The point is that it's not close enough to the 8500 to be a valid test, IMO.

Hmm ok. But as for HDR, that doesn't benefit console gaming though, or does it?
They also had a 9000 Samsung. I forgot the first letters, that's probably a better model to demo then.

However, if he does demo the 7500 and likes the picture quality, he'll know for sure he's going to like the JS8500 even more. Right? So in that way it's kind of a indication.

 

[craigrushforth]

My son accidentally swung a water bottle into my Panasonic ST55 which cracked the screen and caused it to make a high pitch crackling sound when you turn it on. So I'm in the market for a new TV all of a sudden.

I probably won't go plasma again (had some screen burn in from too much Destiny) but I'd like to get as close as possible to those vibrant colours and inky blacks. I'm using an old Bravia from 2010 as a replacement currently but its just reminding me how good the Panasonic looked.

Anyone have any recommendations for something around 55 inch, with ok response times around $1000 - $1200 Canadian dollars?

Was looking at some of the Visio's. They seem to have gotten much better since the last time I looked at TV's.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Hmm ok. But as for HDR, that doesn't benefit console gaming though, or does it?
They also had a 9000 Samsung. I forgot the first letters, that's probably a better model to demo then.

However, if he does demo the 7500 and likes the picture quality, he'll know for sure he's going to like the JS8500 even more. Right? So in that way it's kind of a indication.

HDR doesn't benefit console gaming currently, no, but the screen technology between those two sets is different, and as a result will look different. The JS8500 and 9000 are SUHD sets and have nano-crystal displays. The 7500 does not. Plus there is the lighting difference. Edge-lit sets and rear-let sets can look different depending on the content. The 9000 is also edge-lit just like the 8500.

Therefore, the JS9000 is a much closer comparison to the 8500 and the main difference is that the 9000 is curved, whereas the 8500 is flat. The 7500 is also curved so it is no better in this regard. I would demo with the 9000, and if he likes it, just know that the 8500 is flat and has higher input lag (about 13ms).

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

HDR doesn't benefit console gaming currently, no, but the screen technology between those two sets is different, and as a result will look different. The JS8500 and 9000 are SUHD sets and have nano-crystal displays. The 7500 does not. Plus there is the lighting difference. Edge-lit sets and rear-let sets can look different depending on the content. The 9000 is also edge-lit just like the 8500.

Therefore, the JS9000 is a much closer comparison to the 8500 and the main difference is that the 9000 is curved, whereas the 8500 is flat. The 7500 is also curved so it is no better in this regard. I would demo with the 9000, and if he likes it, just know that the 8500 is flat and has higher input lag (about 13ms).

Thanks man, really helpful. It's possible that it was the JS9000 or KS9000. The price difference is quite noticeable there. But also between the JS8500 and the JS9000. Are there any huge differences between them?

 

[DD-11]

Thanks man, really helpful. It's possible that it was the JS9000 or KS9000. The price difference is quite noticeable there. But also between the JS8500 and the JS9000. Are there any huge differences between them?

I've got the 9000 and absolutely love it. Beautiful set. I picked it over oled because of the price (got a steal) and the input lag on the oled is quite noticeable to me.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Thanks man, really helpful. It's possible that it was the JS9000 or KS9000. The price difference is quite noticeable there. But also between the JS8500 and the JS9000. Are there any huge differences between them?

I don't know much about the KS displays other than they are the 2016 versions of the 2015 JS models. So, I would guess that the KS9000 would still be a closer match to the JS8500 than the JU7500 would be.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

I've got the 9000 and absolutely love it. Beautiful set. I picked it over oled because of the price (got a steal) and the input lag on the oled is quite noticeable to me.

Hmmm, which OLED was it? I have the LG EC9300 and i have to say when i use Game mode or PC mode the input lag is very very good. But of course this differs per person.

Picture quality wise (how crisp things are, black levels) how do they compare against OLED in your opinion? Which 9000 is it by the way, JS or KS?

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

HDR doesn't benefit console gaming currently, no, but the screen technology between those two sets is different, and as a result will look different. The JS8500 and 9000 are SUHD sets and have nano-crystal displays. The 7500 does not. Plus there is the lighting difference. Edge-lit sets and rear-let sets can look different depending on the content. The 9000 is also edge-lit just like the 8500.

Therefore, the JS9000 is a much closer comparison to the 8500 and the main difference is that the 9000 is curved, whereas the 8500 is flat. The 7500 is also curved so it is no better in this regard. I would demo with the 9000, and if he likes it, just know that the 8500 is flat and has higher input lag (about 13ms).

HDR compatible sets may benefit SDR gaming strictly because (the good) TVs must be capable of better contrast/local dimming and higher brightness compared to SDR sets.

 

[Vanillalite]

I got the 55" Samsung JS7000 earlier this week cause the SWMBO said we could upgrade our old tiny TV.

I know there are mixed reviews on this set particularly because the 50" and 60" are VA while the 55" is IPS, but the IPS still looks great to me. Plus I got the extra 5" over the 50". I got a decent deal as it appears Sammy is discounting this lineup to get out with the old 15 models and in with the 16 models.

At any rate watched TFA on BR this evening and shit looked boss. Got our PS4 and Wii U hooked up to it. No complaints here.

It's no OLED, but it's way nicer than my old cheapie smaller set this replaced. Plus like I said we got a deal. That's also why I ended up going from 50 to 55 inches as it was only $100 price difference.

I can see why this TV might have gotten panned as it launched as sort of Samsung's new entry level SUHD TV at a much higher price. Sticker price at launch was supposedly $1599 which puts it closer to other sets. I got mine for $999 though at Best Buy.

 

[J-Rzez]

The new Samsung 4Ks have me scratching my head.

Color looks good. Contrast is awful. Light bleed is ridiculous. And the judder/micro stutter is crazy.

For anyone curious about these:
JS8500 -> KS8000/KS8500(curved)
JS9000 -> KS9000/9500. The KS9500 lost FALD and it shows.

The KS9800 is rumored to be the FALD replacement this summer?

Also, got to love that Vizio removed the tuner from their TVs, and the E-series "smart features" is miracast only now basically. Lol.

Even the Sony 930D disappoints.

What the hell got into TV makers this year?

I appreciate the better more accurate color, but not at the cost of contrast and lighting capability. What a disappointing year for TV enthusiasts thus far outside of the LG OLEDs once again. OLED only future (more affordable) with the death of LED-LCDs can't come soon enough.

 

[minx]

The new Samsung 4Ks have me scratching my head.

Color looks good. Contrast is awful. Light bleed is ridiculous. And the judder/micro stutter is crazy.

For anyone curious about these:
JS8500 -> KS8000/KS8500(curved)
JS9000 -> KS9000/9500. The KS9500 lost FALD and it shows.

The KS9800 is rumored to be the FALD replacement this summer?

Also, got to love that Vizio removed the tuner from their TVs, and the E-series "smart features" is miracast only now basically. Lol.

Even the Sony 930D disappoints.

What the hell got into TV makers this year?

I appreciate the better more accurate color, but not at the cost of contrast and lighting capability. What a disappointing year for TV enthusiasts thus far outside of the LG OLEDs once again. OLED only future (more affordable) with the death of LED-LCDs can't come soon enough.

It's pretty much buy an expensive OLED or the Vizio P series.

 

[J-Rzez]

It's pretty much buy an expensive OLED or the Vizio P series.

I didn't see a P-series this year in person, just read through the specs and heard some good things from people. To be honest I'm not expecting much from it, but after seeing the offering from Sony, Samsung, and LG (LED) this year, I wouldn't doubt Vizio will give them a run for their money and at a good price.

I mean seriously, what the hell is going on this year? Sheesh.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

The new Samsung 4Ks have me scratching my head.

Color looks good. Contrast is awful. Light bleed is ridiculous. And the judder/micro stutter is crazy.

For anyone curious about these:
JS8500 -> KS8000/KS8500(curved)
JS9000 -> KS9000/9500. The KS9500 lost FALD and it shows.

The KS9800 is rumored to be the FALD replacement this summer?

Also, got to love that Vizio removed the tuner from their TVs, and the E-series "smart features" is miracast only now basically. Lol.

Even the Sony 930D disappoints.

What the hell got into TV makers this year?

I appreciate the better more accurate color, but not at the cost of contrast and lighting capability. What a disappointing year for TV enthusiasts thus far outside of the LG OLEDs once again. OLED only future (more affordable) with the death of LED-LCDs can't come soon enough.

Oh that sounds bad. The JS8500 suffers from this too then? It's probably a case of....you either have it on your set or you don't. My EC9300 suffers from quite visible vertical banding but only when i display light to dark grey backgrounds. Also a bit of greenish effect on white backgrounds but that's about it. On other forums i've read issues with this set that i luckily don't have.

Sadly Vizio is not available in my country.

 

[TheSpecialOne]

The new Samsung 4Ks have me scratching my head.

Color looks good. Contrast is awful. Light bleed is ridiculous. And the judder/micro stutter is crazy.

For anyone curious about these:
JS8500 -> KS8000/KS8500(curved)
JS9000 -> KS9000/9500. The KS9500 lost FALD and it shows.

The KS9800 is rumored to be the FALD replacement this summer?

Also, got to love that Vizio removed the tuner from their TVs, and the E-series "smart features" is miracast only now basically. Lol.

Even the Sony 930D disappoints.

What the hell got into TV makers this year?

I appreciate the better more accurate color, but not at the cost of contrast and lighting capability. What a disappointing year for TV enthusiasts thus far outside of the LG OLEDs once again. OLED only future (more affordable) with the death of LED-LCDs can't come soon enough.

As far as I'm concerned, the panasonic dx902 is the only good LCD set if reviews are to be believed.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

I've read the HDTVtest reviews of most of those TVs and it sounded rather damn good though.

 

[Wolfie5]

Worth mentioning that the KS9000 and the rest of Samsung's 2016 models don't have 3D support.

 

[Original Man]

I need help. What do yall think about this 4ktv? I can grab it for $450.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XMUU5KU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[MikeE21286]

I ended up picking up a 50" Vizio P Series and am planning to take back the Js7000 I had purchased earlier.

I'm using it hooked up to my PC and the blacks are amazingly good.

Any suggestions on HDR content I should try playing on it?

 

[Bgamer90]

Currently torn. I want to get the Samsung JU7100 4K TV. I found the 50" version for $800. The 60" version is a little bit more than double that -- $1,700.

I'm going to sit about 6-7 feet away from it. I would prefer to get the 60" -- especially since my current TV is 50". The huge price difference (as well as the fact that the TV won't be in a really big area) is making me really consider getting the 50" version though.

I'm pretty much 50/50 at this point. If I get the 50", I think I'm going to be upset that I didn't get the 60". If I get the 60", I think I'm going to be upset that I spent far more for a screen size that's just 10" bigger (instead of say, 15"+); Especially during a year in which I'm planning on getting "4K consoles" (if true), the iPhone 7, and maybe the NX.

50" isn't too small for 4K is it? The only person I know with a 4K TV has a 65" Samsung JS8500 -- it looks amazing but I don't want to spend anything more than $2,000 for a TV.

 

[Vanillalite]

Everyone is discounting last year's models though so there is that. During my recent search all of the major manufacturers were price reducing their TVs basically everywhere in brick and mortar as well as online on Amazon.

While the 2016 lineup might not impress you if you're in the market for a TV you can still get a nice 2015 TV on the cheap low compared to their original MSRPs.

 

[Bgamer90]

Everyone is discounting last year's models though so there is that. During my recent search all of the major manufacturers were price reducing their TVs basically everywhere in brick and mortar as well as online on Amazon.

While the 2016 lineup might not impress you if you're in the market for a TV you can still get a nice 2015 TV on the cheap low compared to their original MSRPs.

Yep. Currently focused on the Samsung JU7100 that released last year -- seems to be the only good Samsung 4K TV model that has a 60" TV.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

The new Samsung 4Ks have me scratching my head.

Color looks good. Contrast is awful. Light bleed is ridiculous. And the judder/micro stutter is crazy.

For anyone curious about these:
JS8500 -> KS8000/KS8500(curved)
JS9000 -> KS9000/9500. The KS9500 lost FALD and it shows.

The KS9800 is rumored to be the FALD replacement this summer?

Also, got to love that Vizio removed the tuner from their TVs, and the E-series "smart features" is miracast only now basically. Lol.

Even the Sony 930D disappoints.

What the hell got into TV makers this year?

I appreciate the better more accurate color, but not at the cost of contrast and lighting capability. What a disappointing year for TV enthusiasts thus far outside of the LG OLEDs once again. OLED only future (more affordable) with the death of LED-LCDs can't come soon enough.

Honestly, I'm hoping the requirements/competition to do good HDR, combined with the price point from VIzio, is going to force a wider offering of affordable FALD, OLED, or creative Edge-lit solutions in 2017. I mean, it's crazy. I wanted a high-end FALD set, but there's no way in hell I'm paying for (nor want) at 75" TV.

For what it's worth, I have a 65" Sony 930D and I love it.

 

[Moreche]

I have read that I should enable full and not limited on both my Xbox One, PS4 and TV but is this correct?
I see that the Xbox One settings call it PC.
I don't see that much of a difference between that and have the devices and TV set to limited.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

I have read that I should enable full and not limited on both my Xbox One, PS4 and TV but is this correct?
I see that the Xbox One settings call it PC.
I don't see that much of a difference between that and have the devices and TV set to limited.

If you have the Xbox One set to limited and the TVs black level to low it should look the same as PC mode on Xbox One and high black level on TV.

Honestly, I'm hoping the requirements/competition to do good HDR, combined with the price point from VIzio, is going to force a wider offering of affordable FALD, OLED, or creative Edge-lit solutions in 2017. I mean, it's crazy. I wanted a high-end FALD set, but there's no way in hell I'm paying for (nor want) at 75" TV.

For what it's worth, I have a 65" Sony 930D and I love it.

My bro is currently chosing between a Samsung and Sony, if it's going to be Samsung there's a real chance he'll go for the JS8500. Great reviews, 4k,has HDR and we'll, you never know what these new upgraded consoles will be able to do for sure(if true of course) so it's never a bad thing to have those. But he's also very fond of Sony TVs, still has his W829 and might go for a really good Sony TV. I just looked but it seems my country doesn't have the 930D.

What are some really good Sony TVs out right now?

 

[Drewfonse]

If you have the Xbox One set to limited and the TVs black level to low it should look the same as PC mode on Xbox One and high black level on TV.



My bro is currently chosing between a Samsung and Sony, if it's going to be Samsung there's a real chance he'll go for the JS8500. Great reviews, 4k,has HDR and we'll, you never know what these new upgraded consoles will be able to do for sure(if true of course) so it's never a bad thing to have those. But he's also very fond of Sony TVs, still has his W829 and might go for a really good Sony TV. I just looked but it seems my country doesn't have the 930D.

What are some really good Sony TVs out right now?

Hey man, didn't mean to ignore your PM. The JS8500 is a terrific TV. I have not seen the OLEDs with games running, but I'm sure they are great, too. I really don't think he would regret the 8500. All of the Sonys that I have seen look beautiful, too, but I like the black levels on the 8500 better. And the physical TV itself is gorgeous, thin silver bezel.

Buy with confidence.

 

[OG_Original Gamer]

I ended up picking up a 50" Vizio P Series and am planning to take back the Js7000 I had purchased earlier.

I'm using it hooked up to my PC and the blacks are amazingly good.

Any suggestions on HDR content I should try playing on it?

That would be NETFLIX Marco Polo, Lego Movie, In the Heart of the Sea, and Pacific Rim. Dolby suggest you, use Calibrated Dark mode.

 

[MikeE21286]

That would be NETFLIX Marco Polo, Lego Movie, In the Heart of the Sea, and Pacific Rim. Dolby suggest you, use Calibrated Dark mode.

Awesome thank you much!

 

[Quixzlizx]

Awesome thank you much!

A lot of people on avsforum are testing with the HDR version of Mad Max: Fury Road on Vudu.

 

[Vanillalite]

I ended up picking up a 50" Vizio P Series and am planning to take back the Js7000 I had purchased earlier.

I'm using it hooked up to my PC and the blacks are amazingly good.

Any suggestions on HDR content I should try playing on it?

You gotta check your sub for Netflix FYI. It's a different tier to get UHD streaming.

 

[thewaffles]

Rtings review is up for any interested in the Vizio P series. The video game score is tied for the highest they've ever given.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/p-series-2016

 

[ss_lemonade]

Rtings review is up for any interested in the Vizio P series. The video game score is tied for the highest they've ever given.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/p-series-2016

Can someone explain what 4:4:4 chroma is and how not having support for it (like this vizio at 120hz 1080p) could affect picture quality. The only thing I know is that having 4:4:4 ensures that your TV will look good when hooking up something like a PC to it but that doesn't really tell me much.

 

[Vanillalite]

I love RT. Glad that site exists as we've need a good site like that for a while now.

That being said I've always had some issues with their reviews. I feel like they need to do separate reviews for the TVs that use different panels. I know it's more work, but I feel like there is a big difference between VA and IPS panels which should result in their own reviews.

I've also never quiet gotten the sports catagory. ESPN is 720p. NBC is 1080i. Watching on Direct TV vs Comcast vs WatchESPN on Chromecast all give different material to judge. Watching a game on ESPN 3 and a game on ESPN doesn't give me the exact same experience.

At least in theory when testing say movies you can use the same Blu-Ray for each test.

I also always wondered about input lag as that can vary from console to console (or PC) in terms of gaming.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

Hey man, didn't mean to ignore your PM. The JS8500 is a terrific TV. I have not seen the OLEDs with games running, but I'm sure they are great, too. I really don't think he would regret the 8500. All of the Sonys that I have seen look beautiful, too, but I like the black levels on the 8500 better. And the physical TV itself is gorgeous, thin silver bezel.

Buy with confidence.

Hey man, it's all good. Yeah the TV sounds great for him. Next week we're going to the stores and hopefully they'll let us demo it with Xbox/PS4.