Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen

Sanke__ said:
I hope everyone talking about a new tv is waiting until black friday. They gonna be SUPER discounted.

And does anyone think OLED will be affordable by holiday season 2014? 2015?

And looks like ill be watching the sony w900a this black friday. Fingers crossed for sub 1500? Lower?
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Low and mid tier TVs will get good discounts.
Top tier TVs just normal discounts.

I expect $5k OLEDs by next holiday.
 
Is this a good tv to buy? I can get it for 1550e and it seems to have good spec etc I'm not sure if I should go for something cheaper with less hz or idk, need advice because I leave in the morning and need to decide.
Panasonic TX-L47DT60E?
Edit: Im leaning toward 500e cheaper ET50 model, from what I heard 600vs1600jz difference I wont notice and voice and personal stuff is of no interest to me, just pic quality.
 
I just saw a 46" 1080p LED Element for $399 in my local Target. Here is the link for the model, I believe this is the correct version.

http://www.target.com/p/element-46-...14463241#prodSlot=medium_1_2&term=element+46"

My price range is around $500 - $600 and I am not really wanting anything over 46". Would this be a good deal? I haven't heard anything about Element so I am not sure the quality of their products. It also has an 8.5ms response time so that would be good for Kinect right?
 
Does anyone know if the 65 inch Sony W850 has the same input lag as the 55 inch Sony W900?

I'm looking for a 65 inch TV, and I noticed the W900 only comes on a 55 inch model.
 
I'm sure this has been asked or inquired about in here already, but what does everyone think of this Sony KDL-40R450A 40-Inch 60 Hz 1080p LED HDTV???

Some things to note:

- I don't care about Internet-Ready, Smart Apps, or 3D
- I don't care about 120 Hz or higher
- I will be primarily using this for gaming, Blu-Ray's and Netflix.

Is that a good choice for me who is on a budget?

Or is there other "better" options that I should take a look at?

Thank you!
 
X-Frame said:
I'm sure this has been asked or inquired about in here already, but what does everyone think of this Sony KDL-40R450A 40-Inch 60 Hz 1080p LED HDTV???

Some things to note:

- I don't care about Internet-Ready, Smart Apps, or 3D
- I don't care about 120 Hz or higher
- I will be primarily using this for gaming, Blu-Ray's and Netflix.

Is that a good choice for me who is on a budget?

Or is there other "better" options that I should take a look at?

Thank you!
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Do all Sony 2013 sets have 120 Hz backlight scanning for perfect motion resolution or just the higher end ones, because I would get make sure to get a set with them?
 
So after reading most of this thread I know reach out for advice...

It seems the overall consensous for the best bang for your buck is the Samsung S60. I am looking at the 55in which in Canada is $999. (I currently have a 42in Toshiba LCD. One of the first 120HZ models. It's great, but its a little small in our new place and the HDMI ports are kinda flaky now.)

I am also looking at the 50in S64 ($849) as some have mentioned it performs better in brighter rooms. My room is semi controllable but it does get brighter during the day when the wife would be using it.

What do I go for? The smaller, brighter plasma, or the larger, not as bright. Or is there a third option? I need to stay under $1000 and the TV will be used 50/50 for gaming and HDTV/movies.
 
X-Frame said:
I'm sure this has been asked or inquired about in here already, but what does everyone think of this Sony KDL-40R450A 40-Inch 60 Hz 1080p LED HDTV???

Some things to note:

- I don't care about Internet-Ready, Smart Apps, or 3D
- I don't care about 120 Hz or higher
- I will be primarily using this for gaming, Blu-Ray's and Netflix.

Is that a good choice for me who is on a budget?

Or is there other "better" options that I should take a look at?

Thank you!
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The R450 has 43ms of lag where as the Samsung F5500 has 27ms. I'm not sure how the PQ compares between the two.
 
Last question because now I'm out of time, 55ST plasma or 50ET(or47DT) led? Plasma is cheaper and people here suggest it a lot. My room os large and bright(can be controlled to extent)
Couldbuse any advice, I leave in few hours and gotta pick 1 up
 
Island said:
So after reading most of this thread I know reach out for advice...

It seems the overall consensous for the best bang for your buck is the Samsung S60. I am looking at the 55in which in Canada is $999. (I currently have a 42in Toshiba LCD. One of the first 120HZ models. It's great, but its a little small in our new place and the HDMI ports are kinda flaky now.)

I am also looking at the 50in S64 ($849) as some have mentioned it performs better in brighter rooms. My room is semi controllable but it does get brighter during the day when the wife would be using it.

What do I go for? The smaller, brighter plasma, or the larger, not as bright. Or is there a third option? I need to stay under $1000 and the TV will be used 50/50 for gaming and HDTV/movies.
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The difference between the S60 and S64 (which are both Panasonic btw, not Samsung) is that the S64 has the same anti-reflective filter as the ST60. That's why it is better for brighter rooms. The panel itself is identical otherwise.

As far as which would be better to get, it might be worth trying the S60. You say your room light level is semi-controllable. Not sure exactly what that means, but maybe you can get curtains in there if you find it still too bright for the S60.

I'll just say this: The #1 source of buyer's remorse when it comes to tv's is getting one that's too small. So based on that, the S60 would be the way to go.
 
Reallink said:
The R450 has 43ms of lag where as the Samsung F5500 has 27ms. I'm not sure how the PQ compares between the two.
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Hmm, that isn't too good right?

I read through some of the Questions on the Amazonf page and apparently a guy there checked and found it was 25, which is quite a big difference. Can you link me to where you read 43? Thanks!
 
Guys, I now own 2 year old 42 inch 1080p LG LCD. I think it's from their budget range as I don't recall paying more than 600 dollars for it. I've calibrated it a little and the picture is OK for gaming and blu rays.

However, with next gen coming up it's been itching to buy a new 42 inch tv.

I've been eying a Sony W650 LED which is getting good reviews. I can get it for around 550€. Should I go for it GAF? Will the image quality be a lot better? Or only marginally? Thanks
 
Any pics or advice concerning the BenQ W1070 projector or Samsung's 40 inches F6500 ?
Currently looking at both to buy for the media room and the bedroom.
 
dallow_bg said:
Low and mid tier TVs will get good discounts.
Top tier TVs just normal discounts.

I expect $5k OLEDs by next holiday.
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Oh man, that would be so good.

I really really hope something akin to G-sync eventually makes it way into TVs as well. An OLED TV with G-Sync capabilities would be amazing. As it is, G-Sync is virtually useless to me as I don't really play on a PC monitor these days.
 
Mr.Speedy said:
I just saw a 46" 1080p LED Element for $399 in my local Target. Here is the link for the model, I believe this is the correct version.

http://www.target.com/p/element-46-...14463241#prodSlot=medium_1_2&term=element+46"

My price range is around $500 - $600 and I am not really wanting anything over 46". Would this be a good deal? I haven't heard anything about Element so I am not sure the quality of their products. It also has an 8.5ms response time so that would be good for Kinect right?
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I've heard bad things about Element tbh. I think the input lag would be pretty high for one.
 
X-Frame said:
Hmm, that isn't too good right?

I read through some of the Questions on the Amazonf page and apparently a guy there checked and found it was 25, which is quite a big difference. Can you link me to where you read 43? Thanks!
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25 would be as measured by the old cloned timer method. 43 is from displaylag.com, who uses the Bodnar lag testing device (which all review sites are using now as well) and is believed to be more accurate.
 
Omlagus said:
The difference between the S60 and S64 (which are both Panasonic btw, not Samsung) is that the S64 has the same anti-reflective filter as the ST60. That's why it is better for brighter rooms. The panel itself is identical otherwise.

As far as which would be better to get, it might be worth trying the S60. You say your room light level is semi-controllable. Not sure exactly what that means, but maybe you can get curtains in there if you find it still too bright for the S60.

I'll just say this: The #1 source of buyer's remorse when it comes to tv's is getting one that's too small. So based on that, the S60 would be the way to go.
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Whoops. Yes I know they are Panasonics! ;)
 
I think I will go with the 55S60 but a few more questions: What is comparable for an LED? Same parameters. Under $1000, 50-60in, doesn’t need 3d or Smart features. What would be the best choice? I keep seeing Sony’s being mentioned?
 
 
Ok I need help, haven't had to buy an TV for many years. But I just bought a house and have a huge TV wall I need to fill. I figured I will go big, something like 80 inch just to be done with it. (LED only)

I have been looking at different SHARP models and VIZIO also has an 80 inch model that uses SHARP panel. Ideally I want a back array lit panel with local dimming. At first I thought I'd budget it around 2k, however it doesn't seem possible. do you think it would be possible for 3k around thanks giving? and any model suggestion for price/value comparison?

I am gonna mostly use it for PS3/4 PC gaming, plus some movie watching/streaming from the PC (I don't watch any real TV)
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
I'm having a hard time believing that the 65" W850A is the same panel as the W900A. I think Sony realized the mistake that they made with the 900A, It is basically a 55" 4K XBR set minus the 4K. Releasing the 65" W850A as a 900A with the same panel would cause further difficulties in selling the 4K XBR sets. So they made the 65" W850A closer to the 55" W802A.
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The internet needs more 850A vs. 900A comparisons. All I can find is this, and who knows how well Best Buy tried to calibrate the 850A in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnV67xayjI

I'm moving my 55" Sony NX720 up to the bedroom and I'm ready to move up to 65" in the living room for Killzone, but I'm not convinced the 850A has a good enough IQ to do it justice. The 900A specs are great, but 55" is too small. Also, I'm not buying a 4K TV in 2013.

Plz GAF, if anyone's studied the differences between the 850A and 900A models in person, share your knowledge. I'm buying around Black Friday and I gotta decide.
 
Reallink said:
25 would be as measured by the old cloned timer method. 43 is from displaylag.com, who uses the Bodnar lag testing device (which all review sites are using now as well) and is believed to be more accurate.
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Thank you, appreciate the explanation. I guess I'll put that TV as a Plan C or D now, and look for other models that would fit my needs better.

I know it seems like a lot of plasma's are getting recommended here, but I don't need a TV bigger than 40" as this will be in my bedroom, and there doesn't seem to be any plasma's under 50" or am I wrong?
 
X-Frame said:
Thank you, appreciate the explanation. I guess I'll put that TV as a Plan C or D now, and look for other models that would fit my needs better.

I know it seems like a lot of plasma's are getting recommended here, but I don't need a TV bigger than 40" as this will be in my bedroom, and there doesn't seem to be any plasma's under 50" or am I wrong?
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I'm in a similar boat. As far as I can tell, there aren't a lot of displays in the 32-42" range with low response lag.

And my search is made more difficult by the fact that I'm looking for something capable of 1080p24. Right now, it looks like my best bet is the 40" Samsung UNF6300 (rated at ~44ms lag).
 
Any recommendations on what screen size to get? I have a 32inch viera this gen. Would a 50 inch sony/samsung full hd b perfect for the ps4?
 
X-Frame said:
Thank you, appreciate the explanation. I guess I'll put that TV as a Plan C or D now, and look for other models that would fit my needs better.

I know it seems like a lot of plasma's are getting recommended here, but I don't need a TV bigger than 40" as this will be in my bedroom, and there doesn't seem to be any plasma's under 50" or am I wrong?
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There was a Panasonic 42" S60 1080p plasma sold earlier in the year, but I think they discontinued it in America almost immediately. Other countries might have different models, not sure where you're located. You might could find current or prior model years used on Ebay or CL or something. I think Samsung still sells a 43" sub-720p model (1024x768).
 
conman said:
I'm in a similar boat. As far as I can tell, there aren't a lot of displays in the 32-42" range with low response lag.

And my search is made more difficult by the fact that I'm looking for something capable of 1080p24. Right now, it looks like my best bet is the 40" Samsung UNF6300 (rated at ~44ms lag).
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You can check out the Sony 42 KDL W65. It's capable of 1080p24, too. It's the one I have, and in that regard it performs very very well. In the old clock timer test it averages 6m, and in the Bodnar Test 14,6ms. My shooting skills went back to when I had one of the first lcds (it was a really cheap acer with next to no image enhancements) with the added plus that the image is really nice, at least in my eyes.
 
Reallink said:
There was a Panasonic 42" S60 1080p plasma sold earlier in the year, but I think they discontinued it in America almost immediately. Other countries might have different models, not sure where you're located. You might could find current or prior model years used on Ebay or CL or something. I think Samsung still sells a 43" sub-720p model (1024x768).
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That stinks, thank you though. I am in America, and wouldn't want a 720p or sub-720p TV .. I want at least 1080p.

Ateron said:
You can check out the Sony 42 KDL W65. It's capable of 1080p24, too. It's the one I have, and in that regard it performs very very well. In the old clock timer test it averages 6m, and in the Bodnar Test 14,6ms. My shooting skills went back to when I had one of the first lcds (it was a really cheap acer with next to no image enhancements) with the added plus that the image is really nice, at least in my eyes.
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This is the exact TV that I would want, I would probably already have it except it seems to be UK only which is unfortunate for me. Otherwise the next one up is the 47" W802A.

I'll look around some more this weekend and pop in and ask for opinions. I feel like I am in a weird spot since I don't need a big TV and a lot of the great ones seem to be at least 50".
 
So the W900A has this "impulse" mode in Motionflow that is like lightboosting on 120hz PC LCD panels, definitely a change in smoothness, and no input lag issue. Primary problem is the brightness and colors take a hit.

With regard to the STR-DN1040, bitstreaming DTS-HD/TrueHD from Plex and MPC-HC works fine so long as you configure it properly.
 
Rur0ni said:
So the W900A has this "impulse" mode in Motionflow that is like lightboosting on 120hz PC LCD panels, definitely a change in smoothness, and no input lag issue. Primary problem is the brightness and colors take a hit.
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Can't people just up the backlight or brightness of the TV to counter that?
I never understood the argument people have with this, unless they set their backlight to max & like to go blind from brightness.
 
Ateron said:
You can check out the Sony 42 KDL W65. It's capable of 1080p24, too. It's the one I have, and in that regard it performs very very well. In the old clock timer test it averages 6m, and in the Bodnar Test 14,6ms. My shooting skills went back to when I had one of the first lcds (it was a really cheap acer with next to no image enhancements) with the added plus that the image is really nice, at least in my eyes.
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Looks like that one isn't available in the US. But it looks like Sony's 40" KDL-40BX450 is comparable for having relatively low display lag (rated in the database at 27ms) and having 1080p24. Right size. Right features. Right price range. Looks like a possible winner. Anyone with any experience with this model?
 
Was pointed to this thread:
My TV displays 720p, but is actually 1680x1050, can the PS4 display at that resolution? 1680x1050?
 
Got my ST60 today. Beautiful display and insane blacks. Breaking in for 100 hours than doing the DNice settings. Tried a few games and if anything the input lag is better than my previous LCD so no concerns there for me.
 
SnakeXs said:
It is. And the blacks. Already the blacks. I can't wait to break it in and calibrate it, but it's so damned good looking right out of the box.
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Mine arrived as well on Friday but wasn't able to set it up till last night. I'm very tempted to skip the break in period just b/c it already looks so nice, but I know I should.
 
Asturie said:
Mine arrived as well on Friday but wasn't able to set it up till last night. I'm very tempted to skip the break in period just b/c it already looks so nice, but I know I should.
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You can cheat, just avoid the usual pitfalls (letter boxing, logos and other static icons) and if you are gonna watch something that's wider than 16:9 just force a full screen mode for now. Do what you want with it, and run slides and such whenever you aren't.
 
Since a lot games next gen will be in 1080p will there be a major difference on a smaller TV?

My 32 inch tv is broken and I don't have the money to replace it yet.
I have a spare 19 inch 720p TV that I will be using when the PS4 comes out but if that was upgraded to a 1080p 19 inch TV instead would there be a difference? Since the TV size is quite small I'm not sure.

My cousin has a 1080p 19 inch TV that he is willing to give me however I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.
 
What would be the best option for me to have my PC on my TV as well as my monitor, Just a bigger HDMI which is around the outside of my room? Or is there another option?
 
Considering upgrading from my 24 inch to a 32 one. LCD/LED would probably be my best bet? Had good experiences with Samsung.

Would use it for:

- netflix
- usb device
- gaming
 
Thinking of buying a kdl47w802a in the next month. Any news on something newer I should wait for? The price is kind of high but I heard it's a really great TV the 55900 is a little out of my range at 2k I'm afraid.
 
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