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Before moving to another flat (and getting more space for a new TV) I got the new monitor for my Macbook (lots of video/photo editing). I use it for Xbox 360 mostly now (while PS3 still sits around my old 37' 720p LG) and wait for 29th of November.
The model is AOC i2757Fm. The reviews for so great and the price is so low that I couldn't resist :)

Marketing pic:
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My exact setup:


The quality of image and also responsiveness is very OK (like 9/10). I use external speakers and headphones so the speakers are not the problem.
 
*high five, me too. Between 2-5pm i'll have to leave work early.

I don't have a time frame for mine but I'm assuming it is the same for me as well. Already picked out my first 3D movie, Pacific Rim :)

What I'm real excited is the DLNA and various ways to watch movies. USB, miracast, DLNA, etc. Gonna be real fun.

Seriously considering this one. Whats the verdict on the VT60 as far as gaming?

I believe it is just as good as the S60. The w900a is better with regards to input lag but I think the difference is just 20ms or so.
 
I just got the W900A for gaming, as I decided it wasn't worth risking the burn-in on my ZT60 given the retention issues my set has as I mentioned earlier in the thread. I'm lucky in that I only had to pay cost for it given that my friend owns a home theater installation company.

TV looks great and the blacks are nice enough, although compared to the ZT and my Kuro there is a difference. I'd have no issues with having it as my sole TV. The only complaint I have, and it's not really relevant since I sit dead center, but the viewing angles on the TV are limited, even for an LED/LCD set. The colors get washed out if you are too far off center. Still, as I said, even if I was using it for my movie and TV viewing, it wouldn't be an issue, and I could easily fit 3 people on the couch in front of it without anyone being outside of the non affected viewing angle.

I was really tempted to go for the 65" version, the S900A, but my friend talked me out of it since I hadn't seen a curved screen yet, and I would have felt bad about the hassle of having to return it to him if I wasn't happy. Plus, my stairs have a brutal turn that makes it tough to get a 60" TV up, even unboxed, let alone a 65". Now, if I could just keep my cats from batting the screen everytime I try to play a game, I'd be in good shape.
 
Crap, just went to Best Buy to buy a Panasonic Plasma and saw a Samsung 4k model...with the recent price drop I am encouraged to just wait a bit longer...sigh

What is the general consensus on the 4k, for those that have one?
 
Crap, just went to Best Buy to buy a Panasonic Plasma and saw a Samsung 4k model...with the recent price drop I am encouraged to just wait a bit longer...sigh

What is the general consensus on the 4k, for those that have one?

Resolution is fantastic and the displays can be amazing, too, but without native content it's really hard to justify at this point.
 
That they suffer from input lag. No matter how great the TV or the screen technology is, if it suffers from input lag and you want to game, stay away.
 
Still no major price drops for the Panny Plasmas 60". Really annoyed.

Yeah, I figured there may not be a price drop on panny plasmas, so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a 50" S60. Could not be happier, PS4 games look incredible. I was worried though when I hooked up my 360 and it looked kinda muddy/blurry. Dat 1080p.
 
Resolution is fantastic and the displays can be amazing, too, but without native content it's really hard to justify at this point.

I haven't done a bunch of research yet but the sales guy said something about this Samsung being able to upscale images, bs or does it do a decent noticeable job?

I may hold off until after new years right before Destiny/Titanfall/Second Son drop. Has anyone done any PS4 gaming on a 4k tv yet?...results?
 
I haven't done a bunch of research yet but the sales guy said something about this Samsung being able to upscale images, bs or does it do a decent noticeable job?

I may hold off until after new years right before Destiny/Titanfall/Second Son drop. Has anyone done any PS4 gaming on a 4k tv yet?...results?

I saw a blu ray upscaled on the Sony 4K TV and it looked very nice. I'd really like to know how 1080p games look upscaled on a 4K TV though.
 
Has anyone done any PS4 gaming on a 4k tv yet?...results?

Results are inconclusive, as every tester has had their faces melted off and died.
Stay tuned.


Have the Amazon Black Friday sales been leaked anywhere?
Cause I really want to pull the trigger on this TV, but I'm thinking it MIGHT drop in price on friday. It's already pretty cheap and part of the "countdown to black friday".
 
I haven't done a bunch of research yet but the sales guy said something about this Samsung being able to upscale images, bs or does it do a decent noticeable job?

I may hold off until after new years right before Destiny/Titanfall/Second Son drop. Has anyone done any PS4 gaming on a 4k tv yet?...results?

All displays scale the source content to the native panel resolution. So even SD will be 'upscaled' to 4k on a native 4k display. Won't look anything like proper 4k source material though, and neither will scaled 1080p.

I had a look at the Sony 4k over the weekend which was running a native 4k demo. Looked very nice but didn't hit me like the leap from SD to 1080p. The W902 next to it held it's own I felt.

I'm more interested in what better display technology will bring over the next couple of years than another resolution leap. I'd take reasonably priced 1080p OLED over a 4k LED.
 
Crap, just went to Best Buy to buy a Panasonic Plasma and saw a Samsung 4k model...with the recent price drop I am encouraged to just wait a bit longer...sigh

What is the general consensus on the 4k, for those that have one?

I have no first hand experience, but I expect 1080p scaled to 4k will look worse--much like 720p scaled to 1080p looks far worse than native 720p.
 
Saw the 60" Vizio for black friday (1 hour guarantee too) on walmart, and i saw it listed the display response time as 4ms. Wtf can that be right? Really? 4ms?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/VIZIO-E60...9543946190916&veh=aff&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY

It has to be false....or using a different metric. I mean, comparing on this display lag site it ranks faster than every single other tv?

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/#participants-list

Some gaffer school me on why this vizio is blowing smoke please....
 
Yeah, I figured there may not be a price drop on panny plasmas, so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a 50" S60. Could not be happier, PS4 games look incredible. I was worried though when I hooked up my 360 and it looked kinda muddy/blurry. Dat 1080p.

I currently have an xbox 360 and a 720p TV.

When I buy my 1080p TV, will my xbox 360 games look worse?
 
Dear specialists, I'm looking to buy a no-frills TV in the 32"-40" range size-wise, and around 500€ budget-wise. I don't care if it does 3D or Smart TV, I just want it to play nice with my PS3/PS4 (so 1080p and minimum lag) and not waste space (thin bezel request by the wife). I currently use an ugly 6-year-old Samsung, but I could switch brands for the right TV. Can you give me any pointers/suggestions? I'm in France, by the way, so model numbers might vary slightly.
 
Saw the 60" Vizio for black friday (1 hour guarantee too) on walmart, and i saw it listed the display response time as 4ms. Wtf can that be right? Really? 4ms?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/VIZIO-E60...9543946190916&veh=aff&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY

It has to be false....or using a different metric. I mean, comparing on this display lag site it ranks faster than every single other tv?

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/#participants-list

Some gaffer school me on why this vizio is blowing smoke please....

Input lag ≠ response time:

http://www.displaylag.com/exposed-input-lag-vs-response-time/
 
Alright you fine feathered ladies and gents, thanks to you, I'm now the soon to be proud owner of a P50S60. Been asked an answered a million times I'm sure, but what's the final say on the slide show? I don't think the guy at B3D has created a setting for this particular display. Still a good idea?

I picked up the Disney WOW disc and was planning to run it through that.

Probably not the place for it, but I'm sure someone here will have an opinion. I'm looking at some sound bars to accompany this beauty, and while my mind easily gets distracted by shiny dangling words like DTS HD Master audio, and Dolby True HD, they don't really serve a point on a $350 2.1 setup do they? Should I save myself $90 and just get the lower end model that supports DTS surround and Pro-logic II? (not that a 2.1 can even utilize those).
 
Alright you fine feathered ladies and gents, thanks to you, I'm now the soon to be proud owner of a P50S60. Been asked an answered a million times I'm sure, but what's the final say on the slide show? I don't think the guy at B3D has created a setting for this particular display. Still a good idea?

I picked up the Disney WOW disc and was planning to run it through that.

Probably not the place for it, but I'm sure someone here will have an opinion. I'm looking at some sound bars to accompany this beauty, and while my mind easily gets distracted by shiny dangling words like DTS HD Master audio, and Dolby True HD, they don't really serve a point on a $350 2.1 setup do they? Should I save myself $90 and just get the lower end model that supports DTS surround and Pro-logic II? (not that a 2.1 can even utilize those).

If you are impatient like me, you can bypass the slides and be smart about what you watch. If you game, find games that you can turn off the hud. Dark Souls and killzone 2 and 3 can have their huds turned off and God of War games have their hud disappear when out of combat. I don't have a bit library and didn't try any other of my games.

If you watch tv, zoom in so that the channel indicators are off the screen. Hell, I still do this with some channels because their logo is terrible (E! and cartoon network are awful).
 
If you are impatient like me, you can bypass the slides and be smart about what you watch. If you game, find games that you can turn off the hud. Dark Souls and killzone 2 and 3 can have their huds turned off and God of War games have their hud disappear when out of combat. I don't have a bit library and didn't try any other of my games.

If you watch tv, zoom in so that the channel indicators are off the screen. Hell, I still do this with some channels because their logo is terrible (E! and cartoon network are awful).

That makes sense, I'll probably just run the slides for when I sleep at night for a while.

Speaking of which, does anyone have access to the slideshow? I was going to grab them from B3D but it wanted me to log in, I'm not a member or anything lol.
 
if you could post your general settings, that'd be cool. I know every room is different, but I'm a newbie to this whole thing. did you do it all yourself?

I've got about 2000 hours on my S60 using these settings so YMMV but it should help get you towards a setting you like for your setup. I would Keep the Pro W/B detail adjustment and Color detail adjustment settings at around 0 value if you have a newer set than mine with fewer hours or you have any issues with these settings. Gamma might be better around 2.2 or 2.4 also depending on your ability to control the light in your room. Hope it helps.

Picture Mode : Cinema
o Contrast : 80
o Brightness : -1
o Color : 46
o Tint : 0
o Sharpness : 0
o Color Temp : Warm2
o Vivid color : Off
o C.A.T.S. : Off
o Video NR : Off
o MPEG NR : Off

- Pro Settings
o Panel brightness : Mid
o AGC : 0
o Black extension : 0
o Color gamut : Normal

- W/B detail adjustment
o W/B high R : -3
o W/B high G : 1
o W/B high B : 1
o W/B low R : 8
o W/B low G : 0
o W/B low B : -4

- Color detail adjustment
o Red Hue : -1
o Red saturation : -10
o Red luminance : 4
o Green Hue : 0
o Green saturation : -15
o Green luminance : -2
o Blue Hue : 1
o Blue saturation : 3
o Blue luminance : 5

- Gamma detail adjustment
o Gamma : 2.4

- Advanced picture
o 1080p pixel direct : Off
o HDMI content type : Off
o HDMI/DVI RGB range : NonStandard
o Black level : Light

- Screen settings
o Screen format : Full
o Overscan : Off
o H size : Size 1
 
that helps a ton. thanks.

Like an idiot I hesitated on the Amazon 50S60 and now they're sold out. Gonna go buy one from Best Buy this week. Can't risk this whole thing again.
 
that helps a ton. thanks.

Like an idiot I hesitated on the Amazon 50S60 and now they're sold out. Gonna go buy one from Best Buy this week. Can't risk this whole thing again.

Yeah I got freaked out by the thought of them getting out of the plasma business and literally just pulled the trigger on one.
 
You think this tv will go any lower on Black Friday?
it's possible, but it goes one of two ways, I think.

1) It stays the same in price at retailers because they know people are buying them before they sell out.

2) The drop a little in price and then people snag them up right away.

I would say be prepared to buy one no later than Dec 1 or risk paying more at some 3rd party retailer or searching a Best Buy that might still have them. I remember somebody on AVSForum talking about how some insider told them December is when we'll start seeing them dry up.

Alright you fine feathered ladies and gents, thanks to you, I'm now the soon to be proud owner of a P50S60. Been asked an answered a million times I'm sure, but what's the final say on the slide show? I don't think the guy at B3D has created a setting for this particular display. Still a good idea?
AVSForum has the slides and some various setting for this display. I'd look there.
 
so is the S60 supposed to be the best plasma for gaming? it seems well-liked around the internet. it doesn't have 3d though, does it? if not, is there a standard plasma 3dtv that is the most ideal for gaming?

actually, i'm not even sure if plasma will be the best option for me since it will likely be in a very bright room. i'm on the hunt for a low input lag 3dtv in the next month.
 
Been burning in my VT65 watching a tonne of content. Just waiting on the PS4 now and Shadow Fall to give me that graphical feast for the eyes. My ISF calibrator is coming a few days before the games release, so I'll be posting full settings once mine is calibrated, both Night, Day and 3D settings.
 
Been burning in my VT65 watching a tonne of content. Just waiting on the PS4 now and Shadow Fall to give me that graphical feast for the eyes. My ISF calibrator is coming a few days before the games release, so I'll be posting full settings once mine is calibrated, both Night, Day and 3D settings.

My only regret on the P50S60 is the lack of 3D, I still have that Sony 3d playstation display if I absolutely have to try somethign in 3d :P
 
For a new page:

Does anyone here have a 4K TV?

How does upscaled 1080p content (games in particular) look on it?

My JVC projector is "4K Lite" but from what I've seen, it looks great! I haven't noticed any negative PQ artifacts while gaming. Though everything looks amazing on it, so I don't know what else to say. I'm selling it, and waiting for a "native" 4K projector that's under $10K.

Nice. This is my recent pickup. Samsung PS64F8500 replacing a Samsung PS64E550.

SamsungPlasmas_zps875aac99.jpg~original

You're going to LOVE that set!
 
Took the plunge and picked up the Panasonic 65" VT60 today from Best Buy (Canada).

Sticker was $3999, but I think I came away with a pretty good deal.

Price Matched to $3699 (http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00BC4SN9S/ + a meet and beat bonus)
Free Wall Mount
Waived the enviro recycle fee
Free 3 year warranty
Free ISF Calibration
Waived the admin fee for the 1-year payment plan

Walked out with the whole package for just under 4 grand.

How'd I do, GAF?
 
my 720p set finally died. looking to get something between 50-65 for general use and gaming and would like to spend $1500 or less. will be going to the city on sat to check out sets in person and am currently leaning towards a panasonic s60 mainly due to price, picture quality, and low input lag, but VERY concerned about using it during the day with glare. any other suggestions?

also, hoping this thread gets updated with black friday/cyber monday deals. tis should be a decent time of the year to buy a new set
 
my 720p set finally died. looking to get something between 50-65 for general use and gaming and would like to spend $1500 or less. will be going to the city on sat to check out sets in person and am currently leaning towards a panasonic s60 mainly due to price, picture quality, and low input lag, but VERY concerned about using it during the day with glare. any other suggestions?

also, hoping this thread gets updated with black friday/cyber monday deals. tis should be a decent time of the year to buy a new set

Sony W900A 55" LED LCD. I got mine the other day and I'm loving it.
 
Just swapped my Sony W900 for my ST60. So happy I did so. I don't notice the input lag at all coming from the Sony and the PQ on the Panny is just bananas. All that at a full thousand less than the Bravia.
 
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