Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen
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Only turn it on for sports. It is an interpolation software that adds a screen between to make motion smoother on fast moving viewing.
Plasma - 100 hour slides - 150 hour regular viewing
LCD/LED - 100-150 hours of regular viewing.
Do you want surround sound or a sound bar. What shape is the room.
Yea, it looks a lil too dim when you lower it at first but your eyes will adjust and it won't look dim anymore. The dang torch mode outta the box can mess with ya. XD
Do not use CNETs calibrations they are not very good. Try looking at avsforums with your model there is usually a settings thread for the TV or a owners thread with settings from people who have got ISF calibration.
Room is relatively rectangular. Probably something like a sound bar or a stereo setup in general.
FallingEdge
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Anyone have any W900A settings? I've been using the ones on cnet but would like to try something else.
DJ Lushious
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I can't help but to. I'll likely cry the day my Kuro Elite kicks the dust. It's such a beautiful thing, I'd hate to see it ruined. ;-)
Of course everyone has their own opinion, but I am clearly in the "plasma" camp. The picture IQ is unmatched. I'd urge you to get the VT60 over the W900A. Not only because Panasonic is pulling the plug on their plasma lines, but also because those sets are gorgoues. The final gen Kuros finally have a contender with Panny's final gen. How poetic, if you think about it.
I was so, so ready to. Still on the fence because of how much I know I'd be worrying about playing too long or a static HUD element vs. how great people say it is. If I opted for the VT60 I'd go for a super long break-in period of 400 hours (the highest I've seen mentioned) just for the added peace of mind. Seeing some people post pictures here of their Panny plasma with a collection of consoles underneath makes me feel better about the idea of buying one, silly as that might sound.
Once again thank you (and others who have chimed in) for the feedback. Posts like this get me so close to just up and ordering one. Hurgh.
Mistakenly said my ST50 was a 65 inch, it's 60 and I updated my post 
Yes, I used D-nice's settings from HighDefJunkies/CalibrationForums and the only issue we've run into is with really late night viewing (in pitch black room) the brightness can be too much and hurt our eyes, so we occasionally knock it down to about 20. Contrast at 87 is too high and once you break the panel in with slides (like I did for the recommended 100 hours), the D-Nice settings will really blow you away - there is also a separate batch of settings for using immediately out of the box and before breaking in, which you can find at the link above.
Yes, I used D-nice's settings from HighDefJunkies/CalibrationForums and the only issue we've run into is with really late night viewing (in pitch black room) the brightness can be too much and hurt our eyes, so we occasionally knock it down to about 20. Contrast at 87 is too high and once you break the panel in with slides (like I did for the recommended 100 hours), the D-Nice settings will really blow you away - there is also a separate batch of settings for using immediately out of the box and before breaking in, which you can find at the link above.
D-Nice @ CalibrationForums said:
If you can wait till January, I will have mine professionally calibrated.
That is odd as I just turn auto-dimming off. Interface is pretty smooth (and remote is fantastic) as these types of interfaces go but I don't really use it much.
That's the model I have. I haven't noticed any discernible lag issues. If you can find it cheap I would highly recommend it.
Having a hard time with getting feedback, but once again banding.
Is this a TV defect or are shadows supposed to look like rings of shades. Would a different panel look better?
Again the model is UN55FH6003F.
We got it on a whim during Black Friday and another problem is no output.
Even though I wouldn't be able to use one to chat on the One, it'd be nice to at least use the output from the TV and play silently.
Is this a TV defect or are shadows supposed to look like rings of shades. Would a different panel look better?
Again the model is UN55FH6003F.
We got it on a whim during Black Friday and another problem is no output.
Even though I wouldn't be able to use one to chat on the One, it'd be nice to at least use the output from the TV and play silently.
Mattlikewhoa
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Alright, so crunching the numbers, my basement project will cost us a LOT. About 30% more then I had expected.
So I'll be picking away at it, but that means I will be without a rather large screen for a few years. I've been thinking about buying a 75"+ set to use while I pick away at the real HT.
So then, is there such a thing under $8K that's 4K? I haven't been following the TV market like I do projectors.
So I'll be picking away at it, but that means I will be without a rather large screen for a few years. I've been thinking about buying a 75"+ set to use while I pick away at the real HT.
So then, is there such a thing under $8K that's 4K? I haven't been following the TV market like I do projectors.
shadowsdarknes
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Forgive me,
I'm looking into getting a VT60 within the next week or so.
Can someone link me to a post that gives me everything I need to know as far as running slides, calibrating, and all of that? I've been lurking in this thread for awhile now and I'm ready to jump but I just want to have all of the information before I go ahead and do it.
Thank you!
I'm looking into getting a VT60 within the next week or so.
Can someone link me to a post that gives me everything I need to know as far as running slides, calibrating, and all of that? I've been lurking in this thread for awhile now and I'm ready to jump but I just want to have all of the information before I go ahead and do it.
Thank you!
I think you'd be best to wait a few weeks and see what gets announced at CES. Although announced =/= immediately available, of course. Sony's got a 4K tv under $8,000 but it's 65". Meanwhile their 84" is $25k. At least in Canada, where we get fucked on tv prices, so I have no idea how much it is in the US.
So if you want 75"+ for under 8 grand, wait for CES. If nothing else, current models might get a bit cheaper, or you could get a good deal around the Super Bowl.
As someone who calibrates TV's on amateur level I really don't understand why D-Nice keeps posting settings. Every TV is completely different in greyscale and CMS so copying calibration settings will never give you better results or give you an ISF calibrated TV.
Between my TX-50ST50E and TX-42ST50E calibrated settings are totally different. My contrast, greyscale and CMS settings are all different in both 2D and 3D.
Between my TX-50ST50E and TX-42ST50E calibrated settings are totally different. My contrast, greyscale and CMS settings are all different in both 2D and 3D.
MrPressStart
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I opened up my Sony W900A last night... just to make sure it was not cracked or anything. I cant use it until I move back into our house sometime in Jan.
This badboy was sexy!!! Cant wait to hang it on the wall! The 4 pairs of 3D glasses were even nice.
This badboy was sexy!!! Cant wait to hang it on the wall! The 4 pairs of 3D glasses were even nice.
Argh, 7 days until I get mine. The wait is excruciating!
MrPressStart
Member
Yeah.. I didnt even plug it in. Just made sure that it was intact from a shipping standpoint. Hope everything is good next month when I cut it on for the first time. Bought it from Amazon!
Mattlikewhoa
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I'm Canadian Gaf as well! Oh man, do we pay extra for our gagets.
Yeah I figured as much, but I wanted to see if I was missing anything.
I'm not in a rush, since it's still VERY new tech.
I have a ceiling that I'm willing to pay, so I'm just trying to get the most out of my dollars. I might even wait a year depending on CES.
Thanks for thr reply BTW, cheers!
Because ISF calibration is too expensive for most and his settings are close enough and certainly better than the presets that come with the set.
Mobile Suit Gooch
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I got one of those samsung TV's for $53 at Sears. I'm still messing with the configurations though.
I think he understands his market very well, i.e. those who are willing to pay for a proper calibration, but also cares enough about image quality that he would rather put up settings for those who are interested but don't want to/are unable to pay, than have them watch in out of the box torch mode.
But that's just a guess.
IHaveCandy
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Is it not beneficial for games too?
Ultimately went with the W900A. I'm still living in apartments/condos and will be for a few more years, so the thought of having to move a 65 inch plasma scared me off combined with my apprehension about IR concerns (i.e. having to think about what I'm playing or watching and for how long). Although 55 inches is still tremendous in size I feel a little better about owning that than a bigger option until I'm a homeowner or at least more settled, so a few years from now perhaps a 65 inch OLED set will be in what I consider the affordable range.
Went to look at it in person and found it a far better picture than it's cheaper, bigger R550 brother and was impressed with the picture. Will have it Wednesday morning and I'm pretty excited.
Went to look at it in person and found it a far better picture than it's cheaper, bigger R550 brother and was impressed with the picture. Will have it Wednesday morning and I'm pretty excited.
Trojita
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Did you just recommend a calibration by Best Buy?
I would hope not... ;-)
Seriously, just buy the Disney WoW disc and at least get yourself in the ball park of a calibrated set.
FrankNitty
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It is a pain. I picked up a cheap pair of Panasonic RF glasses with one busted lens for like 8 dollars for calibration. The side that I use for teh sensor still works so it works out for what I need.
Spears and Muncil 2nd edition has 3D patterns though so that is good. Makes it a little easier.
Mattlikewhoa
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Different environments = differnt settings
FrankNitty
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Not really. Settings can drift as much as 20% for display to display. Watching a display in THX mode would be better technically then copying someones settings. You could get lucky and it can be damn close others could be to warm or blu, etc.
One guy I gave mine to used them for a short period and later got his set calibrated my settings were almost on point when looking at the calibration report, anoter guy said they were 2 green on his.So really hit and miss
Calibration takes room viewing into consideration. would never work to have them precalibrated.
That's not really possible since a proper full calibration takes into account not only any affects of the full equipment chain from source to display but also your viewing environment. Couple that with the manufacturing realities of trying to pump out as many panels as quickly as possible, and it's simply not feasible.
Built in THX/ISF modes are about the closest they will get, but they are no replacement for a proper full calibration by a professional.
This makes sense, why don't they 'break in' plasmas at the factory, though? Is it just not worth it?
FrankNitty
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I would assume production reasons and cost. I mean I'm sure they run them for QC purposes but to have a display sit there for 150 hours+ before packaging and shipping is must $ being lost. Even them the display may still sit in a warehouse for who knows how long until it is purchased.
I hadn't heard of this and I just bought it off Amazon, so I hope you weren't being sarcastic! I'll try it out on my S60, which is currently on day 3 of 6 of running slides.
Nope, I have it as well. It's been awhile since I used it to calibrate my plasma but it has tests for brightness, contrast, colour, etc. I think it's worth it since you can use it on as many TVs as you want to.
The geek squad are ISF qualified and have the proper tools to do a calibration. You can usually get them for free when you buy a TV from Best Buy if you work with them. Any ISF qualified agent from any company will do the same calibration.
There is a code on disney movies to do a simple WoW calibration as well. Also on Sony discs. I know Ratatouille has it in the extra features.
On Sony discs you press 7669 and then ENTER on your remote. There should be a pamphlet in the case explaining it.
doubt they wanna have a ton of plasmas on for 100 hours sucking up valuable space and energy.
Fun Factor
Formerly FTWer
This site
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1373877495
and this site
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-kdl-55w900a-3d-lcd-hdtv-settings
list their calibrations
DJ Lushious
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Actually, it's normally one Agent that is ISF certified. Then that one person trains the other Agents. So, really, it just boils down to did you get the one person who was actually certified. I'd rather not take that gamble.
They all have to go to ISF certification class.
DJ Lushious
Member
Not when I worked for Best Buy. In addition, Geek Squad Agents are scheduled in time blocks. I wouldn't want anyone rushing through my ISF calibration. I had someone from AVSForum come and calibrate mine and he was there for over two hours, meticulously going over everything and even staying for a bit of a movie to check and make sure everything was a-okay.
FrankNitty
Member
The WoW disc has teh best pattern I have ever used for contrast and brightness settings in advanced with the stars. I use them for ever display I calibrate.
They are limited to a time though. When I do a calibration It takes at least 2-3 hours. Setting up equipment and getting everything in place alone takes time in itself. they are in and out within an hour hour in a half. Not enough time to do a proper calibration. I have redone one someones calibration before that had one done by best buy. Which I found funny because they did it in movie mode which is fine if it doesn't have ISF controls. When I redid it I actually turned on CALday and CALnight (samsung). When I do peoples panasonics I even give them the XML file of their calibration since I have a controlcal professional license that supports everything from VT25 to current and also elites. I keep them on file incase I have to go back and do it to upload it again etc. Even though I lock the settings.
Also a big difference is ideally the calibration will have some reference material to test afterwards. I bring some with me at least and I will actually take the time to explain to you what I'm doing and what each control is actually there for as well as explain the report as well.
To me it's overall touches like that that make a difference. Something I do not believe you get with best buy
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Man, after breaking in my 50" s60 I am absolutely loving it. So glad I didn't go with the BF vizio.