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Players are complaining about visual problems in the Final Fantasy VII Rebirth demo
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Deleted member 848825
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I don't know what you're trying to achieve in your comment. I'm not a sole focal point for appeasing your issues with GAF as a whole. But perhaps be mindful that you're whining a lot yourself, about others whining. Which to me is a poor way of trivialising others opinions. If you're trying to win me over in why I shouldn't critique the game technically. Sorry, my view is my view. Look on the brightside and count yourself lucky, you're happy with the demo, so have a game catered for your expectations to look forward to. Enjoy.
This is being marketed as a top tier exclusive and coming with a top tier price. If you're telling me to lower my expectations just because SE, then don't worry they're already lowered after FFXVI.
Bojji
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Neofire
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I thought I was the only that wondered where dude pulled that bs time line from
DownLikeBCPowder
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That's when the exclusivity period ends, but yeah, unlikely for a PC version to be released by that time.I thought I was the only that wondered where dude pulled that bs time line from
DoktorCoktor
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The blurriness likely stems from how they implemented TAA. That method of anti-aliasing is known to cause blurry textures. This can be mitigated by adding TAA sharpening commands, or just changing to MSAA, in Unreal Engine 4's Engine.ini config file. Only possible on a PC port though, of course.
YeulEmeralda
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True I thank all early adopters for their sacrifice.
JimboJones
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Playing on an LCD too, they need some motion blur to make the 30fps bearable.No judder on my end but I'm not playing on a shitty oled that makes 30 fps unplayable
Irobot82
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If they're going to teleport companions as many games do, do it behind your back!
Just select the 30 fps mode.
Spyxos
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leizzra
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Well, cave lighting is made the same way. I didn’t played the demo (I’m waiting for full game) so I don’t know the exactly how it looks but sky light is the base of lighting environments - it works through all the area evenly. You can see this at the faces - parts that are facing down (upper lips, beneath eyes, under jaw, etc.) are darkened and the rest is brighter. It’s not real shadows, that’s the trick of sky light.
In cave you’ll have different HDRI map to reflect better the environment you are in. In the end if you want better lighting in cave you need to have some artificial lights, glowing organic objects (mushrooms like in Gears I think) or maybe some holes in the selling from which you’ll have a daylight. Still sky light is a base light that works by default in Unreal. In theory it should be used as a filler but it’s cheaper and easier to use in gameplay conditions and with this type of lighting.
Besides lighting I see that eyes are looking flat as if they aren’t using proper materials. Maybe it’s the lighting, but it looks like pupil is flat texture without depth effect (parallax or different method like used by Epic). Hairs also have problems with lighting but they always are hard to make right - you need better lighting or additional rendering layer.
Kumomeme
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to be specifically, more like custom modified version of UE4.
itseems they prioritize to maintain the smoothness of development foremost.
something they already done since the first game FF7 Remake
How Square Enix leveraged Unreal Engine to modernize FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE
<em>FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE </em>Co-director Naoki Hamaguchi shares how Square Enix revamped <em>FINAL FANTASY VII</em>'s graphics, combat system, and world for the modern era while keeping the spirit of the original game.
www.unrealengine.com
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blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
More games will be using Unreal and "devs" will become more complacement.
mayham2199
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Im going to download the demo just to see if it’s as bad as everyone is making it out to be. IME most complaints like this tend to be overblown but we will see.
sendit
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Wolfpact1983
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StereoVsn
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Sony cash unfortunately.
I am still getting the copy with the art book from VGP gaming (dumb I know), but I think I will wait to play till PC version releases unless PS5 60fps version is patched.
I can’t deal with 30FPS on OLED unless it’s pure turn based. Too much blur.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
RE4 on PS2 called, it wants its farmhouse textures for the Bitores Mendez boss fight area back.
sendit
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Working overtime?RE4 on PS2 called, it wants its farmhouse textures for the Bitores Mendez boss fight area back.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Fabieter
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Playing the actual game and looking on screenshota on an early build isnt the same tho.
simpatico
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Agreed. I don't think Square has ever been known for their technical optimization. Just seeing people blame the console hardware, and I don't think it's completely at fault. I believe other studios could reach this level of fidelity and scale without sacrificing so much.
Fabieter
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No I think the actual game will look better and some of the haters are people who defense actually bad looking games.
Mortisfacio
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Square deserves this. Charging $70 a pop for a broken up and drawn out version of an almost 30 year old game remake. Devs are creatively bankrupt and apparently poor optimizers as well.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Literally no one is saying it's the consoles fault. People are citing last gen game examples to highlight Square's incompetence, or the lack of grasp on UE4 after using it for so many years, for this demo release.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Seems like the same problems the first title had are repeated here.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I didn't want to play the demo before full version so I don't know how it looks.RE4 on PS2 called, it wants its farmhouse textures for the Bitores Mendez boss fight area back.
But I bet 1000% that the shots on here are probably cherry picked... right ?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This is a snapshot from NXGamer's video, he lingers on the scene for a good 5, 7seconds.
So if there was a higher resolution texture, it never loads. It stays like that.
Make of that what you will.
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Haint
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No. You will encounter several dozen instances of absolutely awful assets and lighting if you actually explore the demo. Any impressions to the contrary are from people B-lining through the demo on their 50" 1080p TV from 12 feet away.
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DenchDeckard
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They cut the polygon budget by 10...
Cloud looks like life have been sucked from him, and that materia on the ground... definitely nothing wrong happening.
That's the PS4 one right?...Right????
Fabieter
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They are and it's a demo. The final game will 100% look better than this.
Fess
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Just take it easy, it’s just FOMO kicking in tricking you to think you need to be there day 1. They’ll patch it for a couple months anyway. Playing day 1 hasn’t been great for quite some time. I’m going with the PC version.
Bojji
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I HOPE it will look better and if not that SE will at least acknowledge issues and fix them. That's why most people are complaining.
I plan to buy this game day 1 and I will have to live with all those potential issues.
Not really, game is full of this. I couldn't believe it when I launched the demo, every other texture and model are bad.
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SkylineRKR
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Its the start of the full game though, and your progression stays. Like FFXVI. I don't remember if that game was updated from its demo.
Fabieter
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Xvi didn't have a problem with loading assets, but we had several games this gens where loading assets was buggy like dirt 5 for example on xbox series. That game looked like a last gen version compared to ps5 and PC.
asdasdasdbb
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FWIW I futzed with my video settings, forcing 1080p and the blurriness in Performance Mode didn't seem so bad then. Course I did switch spots where I loaded from, so that may be it... but I suppose it's worth a shot if you are a real 60 fps diehard.
The PS4 version of FF7R didn't get a patch - I'm not talking about a Day 1 patch, anything - for multiple months. I do think that there will be one for Part 2 though.
The PS4 version of FF7R didn't get a patch - I'm not talking about a Day 1 patch, anything - for multiple months. I do think that there will be one for Part 2 though.
Gameplay Gods Bless
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I believe the exclusivity contract is for 39nths but square doesn't launch their games when exclusivity ends generally. Under the old CEO they would be lazy and conjure up a half assed PC port much later despite "taking their time". The new CEO seems intent on changing everything so who knows if that will continue.
Gameplay Gods Bless
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This is made by the part of the kingdom hearts and FF7R teams which both worked on UE4. Luminous was the FF15, Forespoken and FF14 (forked version of luminous) teams.