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[mckmas8808]

Pro and new base PS5s are using 6nm process, not the newest-most expensive nodes.

And yet component prices are still not going down. And then add on 30% tariffs from China. That stuff matters! Why leave off the reality?

 

[LordCBH]

Knew it was coming. Still sucks fucking dick though.

 

[adamsapple]

Jokes on all those clowns who said they'd wait until the cross gen period is over and get it cheap. Imagine getting a digital now when you could have gotten the disc for the same price 5 years ago.

 

[RedC]

I guess I got a deal when I preordered a PS5 Pro.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

This is what I tell my American coleagues when they imply that I make about as much as they do, my $ are worthless.

Yup. US and Can avg wages are about the same at $60k/yr. Aside from us Canucks saving some money on healthcare, just about everything in the US seems cheaper... lower taxes across the board (good/services, income, capital gains), they got some kind of SALT deduction we dont get, mortgage interest deduction, and most stuff is either parity prices or cheaper in the US too.

On paper, the avg American should be way richer than here banking tons of money (assuming they dont blow it). But not sure that is even the case. Who knows.

 

[dragonyeuw]

 

[Thanati]

A few of you have been waiting for this day. No need to celebrate the increased cost in gaming. It is hitting everyone and it is only going to keep going up up up…

Agreed, 100% We all knew it was coming but it's going to affect us in not just gaming.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Phill Spencer Effect = Make Xbox less competitive

 

[Mr Hyde]

Never thought my launch PS5 would turn out to be a good financial investment. In 5 years maybe I can sell it for double of what I payed for.

 

[Deerock71]

Damn, you did it better than I did.

 

[Elbereth]

 

[Highway Star]

First time I had an electronic device appreciate in value after 5 years of ownership.
Times have really changed.

 

[Robb]

 

[a multicultural team of v]

As someone who bases their entire political belief system on the cost of luxury consumer electronics, this is devastating. Not sure how to move on from this.

 

[mckmas8808]

Or companies can eat the increase by benefitting from better yields and lower costs as tech matures.

How do you know that'll happen? Who's to say Fab companies in America will have better yields and lower costs? YOU!?!

 

[The Cockatrice]

Oh no, you're going to miss out on all those exclusives now! Wait..

 

[K' Dash]

PS2 for comparison:

U.S. Launch
• October 26, 2000 – Launch price: $299

Price Reductions in the U.S.
• May 14, 2002 – Price cut to $199
• May 13, 2003 – Price cut to $179
• May 11, 2004 – Price cut to $149
• April 20, 2006 – Price cut to $129
• April 1, 2009 – Price cut to $99

 

[dragonyeuw]

This generation is going to be known more for hardware increases and layoffs than games. Jesus H Christ this timeline sucks.

 

[graywolf323]

The mock surprise and outrage tickles me, anyone with at least half a brain knew this was coming, sucks but it is what it is. Buy your consoles at launch for the cheapest entry point lol.

especially since a lot of the people acting like that were the ones saying "SonyToo™" when Microsoft and Nintendo raised prices to downplay those price hikes

edit: this new reality is nuts though, the best time to buy a console is at launch because instead of price drops we now get price hikes

 

[Goalus]

This is good news for all those who were never going to buy a PS5. It means that they save even more money now.

 

[mckmas8808]

Granted the APU and chips are made in Tawain or elsewhere. But they really can't assemble the components in US? This is such a big market, their biggest. Instead the PS5s are assembled by chinese teens?

But even then, don't they have TSMC factories been built into US recently? We are talking about 6nm tech, not 3NP.

That one TSMC factory makes items on the 3 and 4 nm chip size. The PS5 has 6 nm chips.

 

[LordCBH]

Know what the best part is?

When everything eventually stabilizes, the price won't come back down. This price is 100% permanent.

 

[blacktout]

SERIOUSLY!!!! But watch some dopes in this thread blame Sony and say they are just being a greedy corporation. As if a 20-30% tariff increase wouldn't change the cost of an imported product.

This. Now that all of the big three have raised their prices, maybe we can set console warring and "corporate greed" aside and collectively admit that it's fucking stupid to implement a regressive tax on consumption (which is what tariffs actually are), especially during a period when inflation is already extremely high.

This isn't even "politics;" it's basic economic cause and effect.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Fanboys will still try to blame this on Xbox! Damn you Xbox and co! You made wholesome nusony do this!

 

[Draugoth]

Off topic: Just my opinion. I support Pres Trump and USA economic policy and tariff strategy. For me, for the sake of food on the table, income, economy, job security and more jobs to be available, I rather have this slight increase on prices on gaming and consumer electronics.

Trust me bro, you won't be seeing any economic gains from tariffs. Ask Brazilians, Indians, Vietnamese what's like to live in a country with high import tariffs.

 

[DryvBy]

Triple threat:
1. Price increases due to tariffs
2. Decreased consumer purchasing power due to overall inflation
3. Mostly non-existent Sony first party library of exclusives this generation

Hard pass.

The tariff thing is funny given it seems every major PS country is getting a price increase or has had one already.

 

[Pop]

Greed

 

[StreetsofBeige]

PS2 for comparison:

U.S. Launch
• October 26, 2000 – Launch price: $299

Price Reductions in the U.S.
• May 14, 2002 – Price cut to $199
• May 13, 2003 – Price cut to $179
• May 11, 2004 – Price cut to $149
• April 20, 2006 – Price cut to $129
• April 1, 2009 – Price cut to $99

I dont know exactly which year, but I remember seeing Canadian Tire (a store that focuses on car stuff, sports, and housewares) selling PS2 Slim (whatever was the latest super small model) for $79.99 CDN.

At the tail end of 360/PS3, their bottom feeder units were going for $100-150 here. I dont think they broke under $100.

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Know what the best part is?

When everything eventually stabilizes, the price won't come back down. This price is 100% permanent.

We PC gamers know all about this. Bro is speaking facts here. All those dumbasses buying 3080s for 1500 dollars.....

 

[TheChadOfGaming]

Greedy Sony is back
More price increases than exclusives

 

[dragonyeuw]

Trust me bro, you won't be seeing any economic gains from tariffs. Ask Brazilians, Indians, Vietnamese what's like to live in a country with high import tariffs.

Where I live, the Nintendo Switch 2 retails for $899 USD, and the PS5 Pro is like $1100.

 

[FoxMcChief]

 

[LordCBH]

We PC gamers know all about this. Bro is speaking facts here. All those dumbasses buying 3080s for 1500 dollars.....

I probably won't be buying future consoles unless they have some seriously killer features tbh. I'll likely just upgrade my GPU within the next year and ride that bitch until it needs it again.
Switch 2 + PC is where it'll be at I think.

 

[Physiognomonics]

That one TSMC factory makes items on the 3 and 4 nm chip size. The PS5 has 6 nm chips.

Maybe for those cheap 160W PS6s then?

We've tried the whole tariff thing multiple times and it's been a clusterfuck every time, except this time, this will be the one. Hope springs eternal.
Honestly, people need to read more fucking books.

This shit will work about as well as trickle down economics ever has.

Tariffs from Chinese manufactured products? When?

 

[Xbox 360 slim]

Close enough, welcome back 2006...

 

[DragoonKain]

Know what the best part is?

When everything eventually stabilizes, the price won't come back down. This price is 100% permanent.

Probably not, but we shall see.

 

[FoxMcChief]

The Phil Spencer Effect strikes again

 

[Celcius]

Just a reminder that the world is run by dumb people

 

[demigod]

I don't think any person believed the PS6 would be $399.

Here's an even better one. Someone thought the next xbox is going to be $700.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Pay more to play our woke walking simulators (that are on other platforms)

 

[LakeOf9]

It said no other additional markets. This is U.S only. So there is no increase for CDN price.

Canadian prices have increased as well

 

[Plies]

I'm going back to Nintendo

 

[adamsapple]

He's trying his best, poor guy.

 

[Generic]

Or companies can eat the increase by benefitting from better yields and lower costs as tech matures.

Won't happen because the PS5 is the most profitable Playstation generation, Sony will keep aiming higher and higher. A stagnant revenue would be considered a failure.

 

[lachesis]

Well, IMHO- the price increase means that after a lot of market research, they do believe it will still sell well enough at increased price.
Or they are willing to take loss of hardware sales in numbers - than to take some loss on H/W, but make up from S/W sales like previous generations.

Tariff, global economy fluctuation, while they may be playing some part - is a convenient excuses to cover their arrogance of being #1 on the market selling 5yr old tech.
Sony, reported a record breaking profit and revenue this year, and they certainly don't want to lose that too. So this price increase, is just a firm stance and they are willing to push as high as they can.
And Sony isn't only one who are doing that. Most of big tech corps are. Nvidia, AMD, MS, everyone - if they know they can still garner some sort of demand for the product.

It's basically Sony telling consumers "What are you going to do? Get an Xbox? PC? LOL"

 

[Kacho]

mckmas8808 is really on top of things here

 

[Unknown?]

Do we feel Liberated yet? Soon we will have millions of people assembling PlayStations in US!

No real liberation until we abolish our central bank like Andrew Jackson did and go back to sound money. That won't happen though.

 

[Represent.]

Finally it hits America. Was sick of everyone else getting raised prices and shit staying the same in the US.

 

[Kvally]

Not sure why anyone here really cares anyway. We all bought one at release and bought it for less. Sucks to be LATE ADOPTERS. Wow, never thought I would say that.

 

[Sethbacca]

Tariffs from Chinese manufactured products? When?

We aren't a manufacturing nation and haven't been for at least 4 decades. Tariff wars will work even less well now than they did a century ago. Enjoy paying more for everything.