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[Arsic]

But why?

You've just recently launched pro and portal. Your competition isn't even competing against you at this point.

Why not build up a first party studio offering to make up for the lackluster library so far? Plus help devs catch up to be able to make games perform well with new engines etc.

 

[powder]

But why?

You've just recently launched pro and portal. Your competition isn't even competing against you at this point.

Why not build up a first party studio offering to make up for the lackluster library so far? Plus help devs catch up to be able to make games perform well with new engines etc.

Shhhh...they might hear you making sense

 

[nial]

The answer is no, just something to think about.

Not really, and not that I personally mind it (unlike you, funnily enough).

 

[nial]

Thanks for dragging down the gen for the rest of us.
(/s but you did take responsibility)

More 60fps games for you, the horror.

 

[powder]

Not really, and not that I personally mind it (unlike you, funnily enough).

Yeah I'm real torn up about someone trying to angrily refute every comment in a thread lol.

 

[Walliwallipaloo]

Start saving up!

$900 between now (June 13, 2025) and November 2026.

76 weeks between June 13, 2025 and November 30, 2026.

$900 / 76 weeks = $11.84 per week

You can... but should you?

 

[nial]

Yeah I'm real torn up about someone trying to angrily refute every comment in a thread lol.

I mean, the conversation definitely had more of a impact on you than me:

Shhhh...they might hear you making sense

If you care about proving me wrong, you will stop quoting me for no reason.

 

[ProtoByte]

More 60fps games for you, the horror.

The extended PS5 cross gen period was going to handle that, thanks.

Playing lame games at 60fps doesn't make them better. Someone's going to have to explain to me how this vision of maximally accessible development/distribution and multiplatform gaming replete with handheld deadweight is so great when we're down 12% in actual game sale revenues despite being 16% higher in MSRP for major titles and have more titles releasing each year than ever.

 

[powder]

I mean, the conversation definitely had more of a impact on you than me:

If you care about proving me wrong, you will stop quoting me for no reason.

I don't care about proving you wrong, I'm just sending the ball back.

That comment wasn't even about you, it was about Sony.

 

[Loxus]

What does he mean by that?

Surely it's more than just a simple handheld right?

 

[nani17]

Great can't wait to buy it and play remasters of PS5 games

 

[nial]

I don't care about proving you wrong, I'm just sending the ball back.

That comment wasn't even about you, it was about Sony.

I thought it was quite obvious what I meant with that. But ok, let's agree to stop bothering each other, fine?

 

[sendit]

fuck yeah fuck the cloud

Yeah! Fuck the cloud! *continues to use the internet and access services hosted on the cloud

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Fingering enhanced input on PS6 Dualsense

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

controller gets cold and moist for underwater segments

 

[Mibu no ookami]

A price drop would have had a minimal effect as Sony was struggling to make many PS4s back then in the first place. It's why the drop to 5M was massive in the first place.
I also think you have a tendency to oversell the reach of these consoles beyond year 7, this is not a Game Boy suddenly having Pocket Monsters blowing up in 1996.

Clearly you didn't read everything I said. They had to make a decision as to where to push their supply chain. If they wanted they absolutely could have made more PS4s and easier than PS5s.

And yes, everything was selling out at the time.

You should see where the bulk of the PS1 and PS2 sales were end of life. the PS1 was outselling the Dreamcast even when the dreamcast was being sold off for less.

 

[nial]

Clearly you didn't read everything I said. They had to make a decision as to where to push their supply chain. If they wanted they absolutely could have made more PS4s and easier than PS5s.

And yes, everything was selling out at the time.

You should see where the bulk of the PS1 and PS2 sales were end of life. the PS1 was outselling the Dreamcast even when the dreamcast was being sold off for less.

Fully aware of that, but those consoles managed to do so after they were replaced, got BIG price cuts and were pushed on emerging markets. Which is Sony could have very well done with the PS4 even after the PS5 launched, if it weren't for the pandemic.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Fully aware of that, but those consoles managed to do so after they were replaced, got BIG price cuts and were pushed on emerging markets. Which is Sony could have very well done with the PS4 even after the PS5 launched, if it weren't for the pandemic.

Literally was my point...

 

[tr1p1ex]

I thought they were hibernating.

 

[nial]

Literally was my point...

I still think those numbers couldn't maintain the PS4 as Sony's sole platform after 2020. The PS5 was needed.

 

[existensmaximum]

lets go guys are you ready to pay 900 dollars for ps6 with even less exclusives than ps5?

Nope! That's exactly what I'm expecting as well, which would mean I'm out.

 

[FrankWza]

Nah, I mean just launching with only the PS6 Pro.

I like the mid gen pro console approach. Theres only two ways of doing if you're going to keep prices as low as possible. Unless they are able to have AI scaling really make things easier and better for the lesser spec console in the 2 console at launch approach.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Screw it go back to 3d but this time on the handheld glasses free their spatial reality displays seem impressive

 

[midnightAI]

But why?

You've just recently launched pro and portal. Your competition isn't even competing against you at this point.

Why not build up a first party studio offering to make up for the lackluster library so far? Plus help devs catch up to be able to make games perform well with new engines etc.

The hardware will be the same from now on (I mean compatibility wise, so no completely custom GPU's or CPU's like PS1, 2 and 3), so there is no harm in making more powerful hardware and if anything PS5 (even Pro) is now lagging quite a bit behind due to PC GPU's especially in things like Ray Tracking. Also, there is no reason Portal shouldnt be able to work with PS6. We are still 2 or 3 years away from launch anyway, so not an issue currently.

 

[ogroses]

Good points. I guess the PS5 is waining in regards to what it can actually do.

I guess to really push the PS6 to the forefront Sony are going to have to have some proper in-house showcases to bolster it (And from the sound of it they are at least gearing towards this)

Bring some of that PS1 energy back.

Give me a proper eye busting Wipeout with some funky music, I'm there, day 1.


Oh that would be an utter gut punch!

As I said above to Fbh, and as much as it'd pain me being a collector.. if they did have PS6 specific titles that had the same energy as the early PS1 titles, I probably would bite..

If it's Spiderman 3 I'm good

What's wrong with spider-man

 

[Dr.Morris79]

What's wrong with spider-man

The 1st was good, the 2nd..?

Ehh.

 

[TKOFromTokyo]

I'll buy the PS6 if I can play my PS4/5 discs on it. This is likely my last non Nintendo console. Sony was my main console PS2-PS4. PS5 has been boring for me.

 

[StereoVsn]

I mean yeah, it makes sense. They will have PS6 most likely in 2028, but might be in late 2027. It really depends if advanced 3nm node will be cheap enough, IMO.

There is no way consoles are going to use 2nm wafers.

 

[adamsapple]

Great. Makes waiting a couple of years and not investing in a Pro even easier of a decision.

 

[UltimaKilo]

PS6 already for what? There's barely anything done on PS5 lol. Production/Dev time for games has only increased, this is ridiculous.

Nobody is discussing a PS6 release next year or even the following year, that would be stupid as this console is still selling well, hasn't reached its potential and is now entering bigger margins of profitability. Anything they could release now wouldn't be leaps and bounds above a PS5. He's just discussing that they are already planning on it.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Making actual games for their current system should be what's actually "top of mind"

 

[Kerotan]

I think that's not a smart idea, they should try to extend the PS5 generation for now. But we'll see.

If Xbox really gives up I'd like them to extend this gen by 2 year's.

 

[MicTyson]

Honest question..

What fucking use is a PS6? They've barely pushed anything out on the 5th?

Doesn't matter to them… It's all about sucking every last penny out of everyone. That's all any of them care about anymore.

 

[MicTyson]

They already have for the most part

Wow. I haven't seen it laid out like this. They don't have near the studios they used to have.

 

[Bernardougf]

They should focus on ps5 first... it's SO UNDERUTILIZED.
And make sure ps4 and 5 physical games work on ps6

They should extend this gen at least until 2030 and give time to all theit studios to produce something ...

Launching a console in 2027 or 28 would ***probably*** mean the lowest (quantity and quality) output for first party in house exclusives ever since the ps2, witch imo devaluates your product since it fails to differentiate itself from the competition

And would also mean a very expesinve or underpowered console, the Pro launched at 700 dollars, the ps6 has to be a gen leap over the Pro. And in 28 I dont think they can do this even with a 599 machine without loosing money. Even a 699 might be hard as a true next gen leap.

Extend the gen, correct your game pipeline just like you did with the ps3, launch some games and wait for costs of hardware to come down so you cans launch a console at an acceptable price or at least with the leap people expect.

 

[rofif]

They should extend this gen at least until 2030 and give time to all theit studios to produce something ...

Launching a console in 2027 or 28 would ***probably*** mean the lowest (quantity and quality) output for first party in house exclusives ever since the ps2, witch imo devaluates your product since it fails to differentiate itself from the competition

And would also mean a very expesinve or underpowered console, the Pro launched at 700 dollars, the ps6 has to be a gen leap over the Pro. And in 28 I dont think they can do this even with a 599 machine without loosing money. Even a 699 might be hard as a true next gen leap.

Extend the gen, correct your game pipeline just like you did with the ps3, launch some games and wait for costs of hardware to come down so you cans launch a console at an acceptable price or at least with the leap people expect.

exactly.
The gen should not be shorter than turnout for a game.
During 360/ps3 gen, we had whole TROLOGIES and then some.
4 gears games
3 uncharted games + tlou
2 GTA games
3 Souls games
3 Mass Effect games
3 bioshock games
3 batman games
3 Dead Space games
Killzone games, infamous games, few mgs games... and so on so on.

and these games were all 8-20 hours long, not overbloated and nice, physical releases. And most looked groundbreaking at release so nobody can say that the games looked bad.

Nowadays the slowdown is insane. Studios don't take 2-3 years for a game but 5-8... despite unreal engines and other crap supposedly making dev SO EASY.
So by the time a studio starts making ps5 game... ps6 comes around and it's not really a ps6 game right?!

 

[PlayStaytion]

 

[PlayStaytion]

I want to feel the chilling that I've felt with the original Resident Evil Trilogy.

 

[Sid]

They should extend this gen at least until 2030 and give time to all theit studios to produce something ...

Launching a console in 2027 or 28 would ***probably*** mean the lowest (quantity and quality) output for first party in house exclusives ever since the ps2, witch imo devaluates your product since it fails to differentiate itself from the competition

And would also mean a very expesinve or underpowered console, the Pro launched at 700 dollars, the ps6 has to be a gen leap over the Pro. And in 28 I dont think they can do this even with a 599 machine without loosing money. Even a 699 might be hard as a true next gen leap.

Extend the gen, correct your game pipeline just like you did with the ps3, launch some games and wait for costs of hardware to come down so you cans launch a console at an acceptable price or at least with the leap people expect.

Their PS3 game pipeline was goddamn amazing from day 1 and it got way better by the end of the gen plus the sheer quantity and quality of third party games just shits on current gen.

 

[Audiophile]

Very end of '28 makes the most sense, but based on what Kepler is saying regarding chips being taped out, it seems like '27 is more than likely the plan.

Can't fathom why as PS5 is selling fine and they're making money hand over fist on PS5 & PS4. I'd rather they make the PS6 the very best it can be by pushing it out.

But, if PS6 is already approaching finalisation then I guess they might as well just get on with it.

Only concern is they have a chip taped out with '27 in mind and delay it to '28, meaning not just weaker hardware but weaker hardware at a later date, at best you'll maybe clock bumps, better memory and/or slightly better pricing. If it is set in stone and weaker I'd rather they just get started sooner rather than later so we can play PS5 games like GTAVI or TW4 with everything cranked and so that the next-next-generation can come in 2034/5 as opposed to us being stuck with weaker hardware 'til 2035/6.

On one hand I'm positive about a lot of the new tech this generation finally being implemented on a console that reaches a decent threshold of performance so they can be done well (RT, ML, Mesh/Microgeometry, etc.), on the other I'm preparing for disappointment as I honestly don't see Sony pushing the boat out in terms of the engineering effort to get something that punches well above its weight. The Pro was underwhelming, poorly balanced and overpriced alongside a half-baked PSSR. With Sony making so much money with so little effort, I also doubt whether they're hungry enough to aggressively push for impressive hardware, impressive software and an overall step up in the general experience or if they're going to just drop an effective PS5 Pro+ and expect everyone to turn up anyway.

 

[Bernardougf]

Their PS3 game pipeline was goddamn amazing from day 1 and it got way better by the end of the gen plus the sheer quantity and quality of third party games just shits on current gen.

Completely agree.

 

[Melfice7]

With the direction sony is heading, i predict its gonna be a 800+€ console to play cross gen titles/0 exclusives and ps plus extra at 150, premium at 200

please be excited

 

[Caio]

Honest question..

What fucking use is a PS6? They've barely pushed anything out on the 5th?

Nothing ? Like Death Stranding 2, RE9, and GTA VI… eventually ?
Anyway, we're not seeing the PS6 before November 2028, that's basically written in the stars.
So chill, we've still got 3.5 glorious years to enjoy mind-blowing stuff on PS5. No need to stress if someone drops a 'PS6 leak' , it's all background noise at this point.

 

[Sid]

Nothing ? Like Death Stranding 2, RE9, and GTA VI… eventually ?
Anyway, we're not seeing the PS6 before November 2028, that's basically written in the stars.
So chill, we've still got 3.5 glorious years to enjoy mind-blowing stuff on PS5. No need to stress if someone drops a 'PS6 leak' , it's all background noise at this point.

If the chips are about to be taped out by year end, 2027 seems more likely.

 

[Caio]

If the chips are about to be taped out by year end, 2027 seems more likely.

When is the PS6 coming ? My bet: November 2028. Here's why.

While many speculate a release as early as late 2027, a 2028 launch for the PS6 seems more realistic , and smarter , for several reasons.

First, PS5 Pro is already out, and Sony's first-party studios have yet to deliver jaw-dropping results on the current hardware. We're seeing the tail end of the PS5's life cycle still offering some of the best visuals in gaming, which buys Sony more time.

Second, the next-generation leap won't be just about raw power. The PS6 isn't expected to merely bring incremental improvements , it aims to redefine the boundaries of console gaming. Rather than focusing on native 4K or 8K rendering, Sony will likely double down on advanced upscaling and image reconstruction, including:

• A potential successor to PSSR
• Improved Dynamic Resolution Scaling (DRS)
• Future iterations of AMD's FidelityFX Super Resolution (such as FSR 5, ...)
• A redesigned controller could introduce new haptic layers, improved adaptive triggers, biometric feedback, and even modular attachments. Combined with AI-enhanced physics and world simulation, gameplay might feel more responsive, dynamic, and personal than ever before.

Third, game development timelines have become longer and more complex. Studios are only now mastering the PS5 architecture, and creating true next-gen experiences , both visually and mechanically , takes time. Giving devs until 2028 allows for more polished first-wave PS6 titles.

Lastly, from a market strategy perspective, 2028 aligns with a natural refresh cycle: PS5 launched in Nov 2020, the Pro in Nov 2024 — > 2028 completes an 8-year console generation arc, a rhythm Sony has followed in the past, considering PS4 PRO came a year earlier compared to PS5 PRO, and the delays caused by the pandemic.

In short: Unless competition forces Sony's hand, expect PS6 in late 2028 , and expect it to raise the bar across the board.

 

[Sid]

When is the PS6 coming ? My bet: November 2028. Here's why.

While many speculate a release as early as late 2027, a 2028 launch for the PS6 seems more realistic , and smarter , for several reasons.

First, PS5 Pro is already out, and Sony's first-party studios have yet to deliver jaw-dropping results on the current hardware. We're seeing the tail end of the PS5's life cycle still offering some of the best visuals in gaming, which buys Sony more time.

Second, the next-generation leap won't be just about raw power. The PS6 isn't expected to merely bring incremental improvements , it aims to redefine the boundaries of console gaming. Rather than focusing on native 4K or 8K rendering, Sony will likely double down on advanced upscaling and image reconstruction, including:

• A potential successor to PSSR
• Improved Dynamic Resolution Scaling (DRS)
• Future iterations of AMD's FidelityFX Super Resolution (such as FSR 5, ...)
• A redesigned controller could introduce new haptic layers, improved adaptive triggers, biometric feedback, and even modular attachments. Combined with AI-enhanced physics and world simulation, gameplay might feel more responsive, dynamic, and personal than ever before.

Third, game development timelines have become longer and more complex. Studios are only now mastering the PS5 architecture, and creating true next-gen experiences , both visually and mechanically , takes time. Giving devs until 2028 allows for more polished first-wave PS6 titles.

Lastly, from a market strategy perspective, 2028 aligns with a natural refresh cycle: PS5 launched in Nov 2020, the Pro in Nov 2024 — > 2028 completes an 8-year console generation arc, a rhythm Sony has followed in the past, considering PS4 PRO came a year earlier compared to PS5 PRO, and the delays caused by the pandemic.

In short: Unless competition forces Sony's hand, expect PS6 in late 2028 , and expect it to raise the bar across the board.

But if the chipset is being taped out by year's end, needlessly delaying the console would be stupid. Sony would want to keep the sales momentum going and going by the godawful current gen we can expect at least a 3 year cross gen period if not more.

 

[DAHGAMING]

Get ready for the "everything is a Playstation" era.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

This all sounds sensible. Another reminder that cross-gen is here to stay and is good for business.

I can deal with cross gen from PS5/XSX and beyond, I just wish PS4 and XBO would go away already with their mechanical hard drives

 

[AGRacing]

OH MAN can you imagine the launch lineup this thing is going to have !? Everything that's been in development for PS5 that never came out BUT remastered!?

 

[Shubh_C63]

Xbox jumped the gun early with all online. PS6 won't have it either with cloud streaming.
Probably 2040 alongside cordless VR push by PS8. Cloud streaming with a lighter VR headset just makes sense.

They will market PS6 as PS-VI, best place to play GTA-VI.