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The PS5 is the worst PS ever by far. not gonna be interested in a PS6.
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lets go guys are you ready to pay 900 dollars for ps6 with even less exclusives than ps5?
I'm hoping that Sony, as well as other developers, will have invested in tools to speed up development cycles for the next generation.
Mine was a gift, so I'm not getting rid of it. But all I've played on it has been the Demon's Soul's Remake. I'll be playing Death Stranding 2 too. Ghost of Yotei is very likely as well. I'm just happy to have reasons to use it again. I'm beyond grateful it was gifted, because honestly I don't know if I'd own one otherwise.The PS5 is the worst PS ever by far. not gonna be interested in a PS6.
I don't see any reason for the ps6 either. Take care of the 5 first.Honest question..
What fucking use is a PS6? They've barely pushed anything out on the 5th?![]()
I don't see any reason for the ps6 either. Take care of the 5 first.
They already have for the most part
The console already peaked at the third full FY (2023-2024), just like the PS2 and PS4.What are PS5 sales like now? If they already peaked for a while then it makes sense they're going to bring out 6 asap.
The thing is we're still going to get years of cross gen anyways and probably just as much as this gen. No need to buy at launch unless you're looking for a boost like the Pro was.
Ok, Bend Studio and who else?Imagine being Bend Studio or one of the multiple others who have spent the last few years making live service games for PS5 only for it to be scrapped 5 years in. There's going to be loads of inhouse studios missing an entire console generation through no fault of their own.
You guys still seem to completely miss basic stuff like this, holy shit.This is the wrong move. PS5 has felt like a boosted version of PS4 for the past five years. You STILL have half of the Playstation user base on PS4 and JUST this month have the other half of the user base on PS5 THIS YEAR. I don't want to see PS6 until 2030.
Good points. I guess the PS5 is waining in regards to what it can actually do.IMO moving forward consoles will be more like upgrading some PC components or getting a new phone. It's going to be more about getting a higher quality experience than some sort of groundbreaking new tech giving you access to new games.
Ps6 is going to be an option if you want higher framerates, better resolutions, better upscalling, better ray tracing and higher overall visual settings. Specially on more demanding games.
Ps5 is probably still going to get most games for years to come even after the PS6 launches, and it's still going to be a valid option if you don't mind increasingly more games running at 30fps or having some 60fps mode running at low resolution and upscaled with a dated version of FSR (with Ps5 pro being a sort of middle point).
Generally you don't upgrade from a RTX4060 because it can't run the games you want to play. You upgrade because you want to play the games at higher settings.
I think Ps6 and beyond will follow that logic.
Oh that would be an utter gut punch!The absolute worst case, even if I don't think it's 100% likely, is for it to be digital only without cartridges. And most people will probably go "meh, as expected".
Ok, Bend Studio and who else?
You guys still seem to completely miss basic stuff like this, holy shit.
Please tell me when you expected half of 120M PS4 users to buy a PS5, at the second year?
Don't like all the PlayStation 4.5 upgradable crossgen games they put out? The PS4 generation will live forever this way!Honest question..
What fucking use is a PS6? They've barely pushed anything out on the 5th?![]()
They're not launching it this year, you know that they're aiming for 2027, right? And to that point, the PS4 userbase will be completely minimal that it won't even be a factor.That's not the point. The point is that it's hardly advantageous to introduce another SKU for an entirely new console ecosystem, when shit like the next COD is apparently launching on PS4 still.
Only now has the total PS user base migrated past the halfway point over to PS5 – they need to wait until at least three quarters of it move over before talking about a successor to something that hasn't even reached its full potential.
I don't expect to see PS6 until 2027 but realistically they should probably wait even longer.
5 years? 2 years at most, after they were already a co-development studio on Demon's Souls and God of War Ragnarok. And before you say anything, they had the exact same roles on both games.Bluepoint after 5 years of development
Firesprite already released Horizon Call of the Mountain and was working on Project Heartbreak since 2021. Twisted Metal was not even greenlit.Firesprite after 3 years of development
And the result of them making the type of games that result in >6 years of development, Intergalactic started peoduction after TLOU2. Ask CDPR.Naughty dog after 3 years of development
It wasn't 3 years nor it was greenlit, either. Insomniac has already released 3 games this generation with another one on the way.Insomniac after 3 years of development
Deviation was never owned by Sony, which pulled their funding from the project as soon as they saw that it wasn't going anywhere, which led to Deviation not having any money to keep its doors open. Not Sony's fault, though.Deviation after 4 years of development and who have now been shutdown
What?First Strike after 2 years of development
K.London after 2 years of development and who have now been shutdown.
I ask again, what are the studios that will miss this console generation outside of Bend Studio?Bungie also cancelled Operation Payback in 2024. I'll accept that Naughty Dog is different from the others, but it's still wasted development time.
Good, PS5 really is Sony's best generation ever
How about they make the top priority the current console, clowns. There is no reason for a new console yet, not for years. When it does come out are we gonna wait 10 years for games to release at the end of that console lifecycle? Cross gen games between now and then, what the fuck is the point.
well, it's been pretty obvious for a while that, game-wise, it's certainly no longer the playstation 5...The SIE president has recently stated that the PlayStation 6 is one of the top priorities for the platform's future...
....obviously they're not launching it this year.They're not launching it this year, you know that they're aiming for 2027, right? And to that point, the PS4 userbase will be completely minimal that it won't even be a factor.
What does he mean by that?and that PlayStation is "committed to exploring a new and enhanced way for players to engage with our content and services."
They need to focus internally on THE major product launching in just two years, it's a matter of logistics. PS5 found its footing a long time ago, it will be several years since it peaked.....obviously they're not launching it this year.
I'm responding to the news of internal discussion about it – I'm simply saying I would prefer they didn't focus on PS6 when PS5 is still finding its footing although I know they starting planning the next console after they launch one.
They need to focus internally on THE major product launching in just two years, it's a matter of logistics. PS5 found its footing a long time ago, it will be several years since it peaked.
They're not launching it this year, you know that they're aiming for 2027, right? And to that point, the PS4 userbase will be completely minimal that it won't even be a factor.
5 years? 2 years at most, after they were already a co-development studio on Demon's Souls and God of War Ragnarok. And before you say anything, they had the exact same roles on both games.
Firesprite already released Horizon Call of the Mountain and was working on Project Heartbreak since 2021. Twisted Metal was not even greenlit.
And the result of them making the type of games that result in >6 years of development, Intergalactic started peoduction after TLOU2. Ask CDPR.
It wasn't 3 years nor it was greenlit, either. Insomniac has already released 3 games this generation with another one on the way.
Deviation was never owned by Sony, which pulled their funding from the project as soon as they saw that it wasn't going anywhere, which led to Deviation not having any money to keep its doors open. Not Sony's fault, though.
What?
K.
I ask again, what are the studios that will miss this console generation outside of Bend Studio?
Ah, cross-gen sperging, exactly what I expected. What do you even want me to say? The console already peaked a while back, most of consumers bought those games on PS5, people have been playing on the console for 5 years at this point.LOL. Found its footing already? Remember when it launched they were printing 120fps on the boxes? What reality do you live in? Most of the first party games that have launched started development on PS4 (and look like it as well.) We have not had any genuinely ground-up developed games for the PS5 – even the ones they "claim" were. Ratchet is probably the closest. When I say the console has found its footing I'm talking about the console having SEVERAL releases that started development on the PS5, for the PS5. There have been some nice looking titles, but nothing that fulfills the expected promise of "next gen."
Again, I'm saying regardless of their internal plans, ME AS A CONSUMER would prefer if they released the PS6 3-5 years from now. It's an opinion.
It's absolutely not semantics when you clearly stated that we were going to see these studios missing an entire console generation, when it's quite literally one single case.I was typing out a full response, but it was just semantics so I stopped. Any studio or part of a studio that has had a recent game cancelled are going to struggle to be starting a project now and release it before 2030. My point is there's a lot of developers who have spent years either working for Sony or in partnership with Sony who have had games cancelled and of which a proportion of (which we will never know) is due to a decision at the top years ago to go in the wrong direction. All of that dev time is a waste regardless of what could have been produced instead.
There's got to be disappointment in what they've done and this gen has been light on the story heavy single player games. I've seen people argue this but of the original games released so far this gen, only Horizon and Ragnorak are truly that.
I meant Final Strike and everything I've read suggests Bluepoint were at least in pre-production 5 years ago on the GoW game.
Ah, cross-gen sperging, exactly what I expected. What do you even want me to say? The console already peaked a while back, most of consumers bought those games on PS5, people have been playing on the console for 5 years at this point.
When was the argument solely focused on what YOU wanted?
It's absolutely not semantics when you clearly stated that we were going to see these studios missing an entire console generation, when it's quite literally one single case.
And you read wrong, all the insider or whatever information from Jason stated that they didn't work on it until after God of War Ragnarok. You're assuming that it's what they worked on after Demon's Souls, ignoring that their work on GOWR required the exact same workforce and expertise as in DS.
Speaking of, do you know if the development on the handheld was a result of the PS Portal?What does he mean by that?![]()
Stating that it's the wrong move is rarely a casual opinion, and if it really is, it's just incorrect. You could say that PS5 being a failure is your opinion, but it'd be factually false.There never was an argument – I voiced an opinion and you turned it into a "conversation" when you replied.
Who cares about the how's and why's? Why defend the first party output this generation?
I have the feeling that the PS6 is going to be an hybrid console…