He' saying that Kat shouldn't be stopped by the "12 frame delay for Super" air attack restriction, because she combos into her super, rather than instant air attack -> Super, like Sweet Tooth / Fatty P.
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He' saying that Kat shouldn't be stopped by the "12 frame delay for Super" air attack restriction, because she combos into her super, rather than instant air attack -> Super, like Sweet Tooth / Fatty P.
Ploid 3.0
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Buy time so that it won't be a situation like Fat Princess where you'd have to super right as you land to connect with the confirm.
Air slanting kick is one of Kat's openers for a super confirm, but when she lands it she don't go right into super. She goes from air slant kick ("/" slant down to the floor), into the debris field projectile that circle her (I used pot to describe it, but it changes a lot. She can have up to 3, but saves one for the super setup), then right into the super. Or it can go from slant kick into her normal combo into dark gravity grab, then to the debris hit finishing with the super. The Kat player can keep trying for the slant kick with a lot of aerobatics to trip you up (a sort of dash before using the kick to kind of cross you up, and if it misses, jump back in the air and do it again in a quick motion waiting for a opening).
I couldn't find a video of someone using the exact combo starting with the diagonal kick but just sub the throw for that kick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1XuBwScw3zU#t=24s
It's hard to punish if the player use air dodge to avoid your attacks if you try to battle her in the close to overhead space. Eventually if I do I just get a worse penalty for entertaining the Kat with the fight since me hitting her don't end in a super, and her catching me on the ground, or using the throw command while she's on the ground ends in a super.
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
I'll probably start with getting Isaac and Zeus' Arcade Mode trophies, thereby getting a feel for them and their moves at the same time.
Then I'll get Sir Dan's inevitable "Perform a level 3 super on Graveyard" trophy. Finally, I'm having a few All-Stars playing friends over tomorrow night to test drive the new patch. Should be fun!
TimeEffect
Member
I may have to play after Wednesday, I maxed out my data usage 
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Straight to online mode or practice mode with new characters then testing other characters to get the feeling of nerfs/buffs.
Pretty sweet
Expected, but nice.
What's ScraftyCup? A tournament? How does one enter?
You have to send me money to enter.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Indeed. Official tournament rules dictate that each entrant must send KevinCow fifteen American dollars and a vanilla cupcake.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the Dead Space 1 PS3 exclusive suit, right?
TimeEffect
Member
Someone put rockets and smoke under him!
It has that suit's color scheme, but I think it's modeled after the Engineering Suit.
LightofRohan
Member
I don't always play All-Stars, but when I do, the servers are usually fucked up.
CaptainSchwann
Member
Dan just needs better supers. Ill never understand how Dankenstein didn't end up being one of them.
I'm not from NA, but as far as I'm aware the DLC code expires on the 31st of March. So I don't think you'll be able to use it anymore.
I could be completely wrong, but I recall someone posting a picture of it.
Hey guys, anyone think Toro's effectiveness will be seriously diminished after this patch? I was talking a look at the notes and check this out:
--- Toro's Ground Neutral Circle’s duration is now infinite
--- Level 1 Super - Toro can now turn around during the first 5 frames of activation and will no longer slide
--- Level 2 Super - Toro can now turn around during the first 5 frames of activation and will no longer slide during the activation if he was running
--- Air Up Triangle can only be used once per jump
--- Toro's Oni Air Down Triangle has 9 frames increased start-up and 4 frames more recovery
Now, the Level 1/2 buffs are fine, making his ground sleeping infinite should have been in from the start, and the one air up triangle thing is to get rid of the Flying Toro glitch. But that last nerf - Toro's divekick is one of the most important tools in his arsenal. With it slowed down, I suspect he might not be able to pull off his famous loop, and the "no air confirms" thing would get rid of his Level 1 hit confirm too. I'll have to see for myself later today, but this kitty's claws may have been cut.
EDIT: Also I just got excited when I put in my Zeus and Isaac code and downloaded them... but then realized I can't use them until the patch hits...
--- Toro's Ground Neutral Circle’s duration is now infinite
--- Level 1 Super - Toro can now turn around during the first 5 frames of activation and will no longer slide
--- Level 2 Super - Toro can now turn around during the first 5 frames of activation and will no longer slide during the activation if he was running
--- Air Up Triangle can only be used once per jump
--- Toro's Oni Air Down Triangle has 9 frames increased start-up and 4 frames more recovery
Now, the Level 1/2 buffs are fine, making his ground sleeping infinite should have been in from the start, and the one air up triangle thing is to get rid of the Flying Toro glitch. But that last nerf - Toro's divekick is one of the most important tools in his arsenal. With it slowed down, I suspect he might not be able to pull off his famous loop, and the "no air confirms" thing would get rid of his Level 1 hit confirm too. I'll have to see for myself later today, but this kitty's claws may have been cut.
EDIT: Also I just got excited when I put in my Zeus and Isaac code and downloaded them... but then realized I can't use them until the patch hits...
TMaakkonen
Member
The last nerf was definately made to make sure good Toros cant loop you but i wouldnt call Toro terrible yet. Hopefully Ninja stars, Oni blasts and karate kicks are effective enough.
Hopefully infinite sleep makes up for it. Best instant AP move ingame now probably?(PaRappa's and Emmett's can be stolen
)Oh and for the future DLC please, make someone have green background! Its frustating me that there is not enough green BG characters. The only character with green is SirDan. Most of them are blue and orange. >_>
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
That's strange, especially considering Camjo-Z said he was already able to redeem his code.
If you don't have a code, you'll probably just need to wait for them to become available in today's PS Store update which, as we know, could be any time (at least in the US).
But thanks for the heads-up that the patch is live! Time for me to go redeem my Zeus/Isaac code...
TMaakkonen
Member
I guess/hope they learned not to troll us with characters that have yellow locks and say that you need to buy them. Lol. If i hadnt got Kat and Emmett i would have been annoyed.
So maybe they will appear when you unlock/buy them.
Oh, and big update? They reaaaaally need to make updates so that you dont need to update entire patch again and again. . .
lol I just turned on the game and there was no patch? Was it PS3 or Vita?
TMaakkonen
Member
Heh SuperBots last work. Giant patch just before real patch that does nth. That is you arent mistaking old patch for new?
Oh and last min predictions:
Zeus will be OP with his 2 hits 85 AP.
Isaac will be average because of his not so effective supers.
Oh and last min predictions:
Zeus will be OP with his 2 hits 85 AP.
Isaac will be average because of his not so effective supers.
TMaakkonen
Member
Ha, you dont know SuperBot. You see, they had this great idea that EVERY patch should make you force to redownload old patches again. Hence why they are getting so big.
Yes, you're correct.
This was the image I was referring to. I must have read that as the end of March 2013. Apologies!
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Nope, no patch yet. I redeemed my code, though... now we wait!
I'll give them until May/June and if nothing is announced by then I'll assume DLC is all done. Abe was apparently due in May, after all.
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Ugh... what an unfortunate downer on what is an otherwise exciting day for All-Stars fans.
I really hope we're just reading too much into this and that Seth would outright confirm that today's characters and stage are the last if that is indeed the case.On an unrelated note, does anyone know if the next batch of costumes also goes live today? I can't remember...
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Ah, okay. That's what I thought. Was kinda hoping it was today, but at least that spaces out the content more.
Yeah, I hear you. Santa Monica seems to be doing a lot of necessary overtime on this game with the costumes, patches, and various fixes, so who knows.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the basic game go FTP on PS+ at some point, or maybe just some portion of it, with a bunch of other characters popping up as $3 DLC or something. If that does happen, though, I'd expect some more DLC characters.
I was actually thinking they may be heading in that direction with this game. I mean with all the microtransactions that seem to be coming into place it actually reminds me of UC3 but I don't think I've ever seen the model on a fighting game before.