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PlayStation and Microsoft suspends Facebook advertising
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SidViscous
Member
Good on Facebook for standing their ground, don't be fooled into thinking hate speech is what it sounds like, they are banning people on twitter because they hate what they are saying rather than them saying anything that promotes hatred.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
What the f? "a$$"? Are you literally 8 years old?
captainraincoat
Banned
i dont think many people here would dispute him being an idiot......but there are also alot of idiots idiots on the left side of things that sprout garbage just as much as the rightwing groups and they also need to be held accountable
sony removing their advertising really does fuck all except tick that feel good box that the left all love but is of not much actual substance
Boss Mog
Member
No, it's whatever "offends" certain groups of people. None of the shit that offends me ever gets removed.
igivehugs2nakedwomen
Banned
Good. There's far too many lies and conspiracy theories being pushed by it's users. Facebook needs to hire some of Neogaf's mods.
Timberwolf25
Member
Some companies are saying they are supporting hate speech/racism because they are refusing to censor certain speech that they don't like. They are attempting to force them to change their policies.
Problem is of course, who decides what should or shouldn't be censored. And it looks to be purely politcal
gunslikewhoa
Member
Neofire
Member
I get that black being at the beginning of the name isn't needed but how are the group themselves, misleading?
As far as any Isrealite group preaching inaccurate Doctrine isn't out of the realm of possibility.
People need to remember just because you don't agree with something or what someone is saying doesn't necessarily means it's false.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
oh ok.
I am nok with censoring everything nowadays, so facebook is actually ... good ?!
Timberwolf25
Member
Censoring/policing of language is a slippery slope imo.
There are certain blatant stuff that should be universally censored for sure and there are stuff that could or shouldn't be censored depending on your pov.
When it comes to those kind of issues, I prefer to let it be aired/posted and let each person do their research and decide for themselves instead of FB, Twitter or whatever social media decide for us.
DeeDogg_
Banned
you want us to get on our knees for sony for TEMPORARILY suspending their ads on 1/1000 shitty social media sites? Are you insane?
Xplainin
Banned
Nah, they are a racist organization. They stand on street corners calling white people the white devil, they are anti-semitic as well.
They are a true hate group. But I bet they won't be kicked off Facebook.
cormack12
Gold Member
Marketing: How much will one month lost ad revenue cost?
Marketing: How much social media reach will we gain and what news cycles will we be in?
Marketing: We can take a small hit and enhance our image, CFO will you sign off?
CFO: Yea, sure.
Public: My favourite corporation ever!!!!!! They are ever so much smarter and altruistic than your mega corporation.
Marketing: How much social media reach will we gain and what news cycles will we be in?
Marketing: We can take a small hit and enhance our image, CFO will you sign off?
CFO: Yea, sure.
Public: My favourite corporation ever!!!!!! They are ever so much smarter and altruistic than your mega corporation.
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The platform holder joins Coca-Cola, Honda, Unilever, Ford, Starbucks and Microsoft
PlayStation is the latest major organisation to temporarily stop advertising on Facebook and Instagram.
It's part of the #StopHateForProfit campaign. Facebook has drawn criticism for its rules around allowing hate content and misinformation to be visible on its platform. Whereas other social media outlets, including Twitter and Twitch, have recently started cracking down on hate speech
PlayStation said in a statement: "In support of the #StopHateForProfit campaign, we have globally suspended our Facebook and Instagram activity, including advertising and non-paid content, until the end of July. We stand for working (and playing) together for good."
Microsoft has also reportedly stopped advertising on Facebook for the month, although it awkwardly follows news that it has partnered with the firm over its Facebook Gaming streaming platform.
PlayStation suspends Facebook advertising
PlayStation is the latest major organisation to temporarily stop advertising on Facebook and Instagram. It's part of th…www.gamesindustry.biz
This is all about trying to coherce another company into controlling speech in a way these companies prefer and it is 100% BS. Too many Americans have become supportive of censorship because they hate Trump soo much and see this as a way to hurt him.
I say that as someone who considers myself a proud progressive. It is just too obvious to ignore anymore and I can't be ok with it just because I don't like Trump personally.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
What do mean by "you people"?! How dare you. I am offended.
Timberwolf25
Member
He obviously means undead Roman zombie warriors
ExpandKong
Banned
*raises hamd*
I’m not saying he’s my favorite person or even my favorite president but I don’t think you get as far as he has if you’re an idiot. I can’t imagine stumbling upward to that extent.
CrysisFreak
Banned
At this point I'm just focusing on games, ain't nobody got time for leftist SJW spergout #975 misgendered boogaloo edition (xer/xim)
Slings and Arrows
Banned
A few months ago Zucker was taking a lot of heat from lobbies, the press and the industry. It's almost like there's a concerted effort to get rid of Facebook. It couldn't be to rid competition could it? Or that Facebook - dare I say it - isn't as bad as Google, YouTube, twitter et Al for censoring the 'wrong kind of hate'?
No, it couldn't be that...
No, it couldn't be that...
iorek21
Member
Facebook is right on this, “hate speech” is a very ambiguous word that can and WILL be used to silence diverging opinions if possible. Facebook already policies its social network for abusive posts, it’s more than enough.
As for what those companies are trying to do, here’s what will happen at the end of the year:
As for what those companies are trying to do, here’s what will happen at the end of the year:
CrysisFreak
Banned
Is the Zuck, dare I say it, /ourguy/ ?Facebook is right on this, “hate speech” is a very ambiguous word that can and WILL be used to silence diverging opinions if possible. Facebook already policies its social network for abusive posts, it’s more than enough.
As for what those companies are trying to do, here’s what will happen at the end of the year:
cormack12
Gold Member
Complains about right wingers being racist. Insults someone else's English as they may not be native speaker. The tolerant and virtuous left everyone. Shitting themselves in public yet again.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I'm sad that he's fucked off. I wanted to hear more of his intelligent insights.
cozomel
Where did you go? Tell us more about the racist ass right-wing, please.
MastaKiiLA
Member
In a choice between so called "virtue signaling" and doing noting, "virtue signaling" always wins. I fail to see how the choice of inaction would be superior. Could they do more? I'm sure they could, but this boycott is intended to pressure FB and other social sites into updating their policies on certain types of content. Playstation joining the boycott lends itself to that movement more than doing nothing would, and clearly more than anyone in this thread could. Individuals lack the clout to make a large platform implement change. But the threat of reduced ad revenue will certainly be more convincing. As more companies join the boycott, momentum is gained. This is just one of numerous attempts to affect change, so it's worth supporting. Unless you like the status quo, in which case, good for you. A public facing brand doesn't have the same level of anonymity or irrelevance.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Why do you put virtue signaling in quotes? Do you not believe its a thing?
dolabla
Member
Like most of these self righteous, holier than thou REE'ers, zero self awareness.
cormack12
Gold Member
I don't think anyone has said it's a bad thing per se. The conversation is around the honesty of it. It's like the comparison of the rich man giving $10 to charity and the poor lady giving all she has which is two coppers. This won't put any pressure on facebook financially. And it's not going to hurt the companies either. It's a carefully orchestrated show of pushback that's acceptable to both parties while keeping the partnerships healthy.
Microsoft pause advertising on Facebook
Microsoft partners with facebook for facebook gaming
Sony pause advertising on Facebook
Sony renegotiating music contract with Facebook
Don't be surprised if that loss is absorbed as a service cost somewhere in that contract. Now, if they said we're not going to use the platform ever agan until change is affected then yeah, that's probably worth saying fair play too. But then you get into all the sub arguments, should sponsors and affiliates be able to dictate and affect policy? Which inevitably leads to corruption. At the moment, it's a positive thing because it aligns with something you identify with. Let's say they pulled out of advertising because Facebook deplatformed someone like Alex Jones - would you be as quick to praise them. Generally on GAF, the cause isn't really discussed so much as the holistic issue. It;s not just as simple as doing this is better than doing nothing when we're talking about things of this scale.
gunslikewhoa
Member
No. It's a bad thing. Fuck censorship.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Free Speech is Hate Speech.
Freedom is Hatred.
Freedom is Hatred.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Affirmative Racism.
Bonfires Down
Member
Thanks for supporting internet censorship, Sony...
Robot Carnival
Member
to be honest, it's not like young people uses Facebook all that much these days. probably just a way to get some good will points and cut down on their ad budget while they're at it.
Sam Hyde
Banned
Almost. Once you realise that the narrative is not so much about being pro one race as it is being against another then much becomes clear.
On the same note isn’t it interesting that we’re supposed to believe we live in a free market society yet I struggle to even imagine for example Xbox catering to a BLM-skeptic audience. The demand should be quite huge for people who are tired and done with Antifas mass violence and woke blackness.
Yet nothing.
igivehugs2nakedwomen
Banned
So some of you are okay with Facebook being used to spread racist nonsense and conspiracy theories that are being created by Russian Intelligence?
Dirk Benedict
Member
You're being disingenuous about why people are siding with Facebook on this one.
If they complied, we'd see more stifling of actual voices with substance, just as Google has been doing as well as Twitter.
Using "Hate Speech" as a Trojan Horse to crush our freedoms is a real and genuine thing. Wake the fuck up.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
That's exactly what I mean with "affirmative racism." Racism as a policy in the name of making up for past injustices.
igivehugs2nakedwomen
Banned
First of all the first amendment does not protect hate speech or racism. Second, some of the conspiracy theories being posted and reposted all over social media were started by Russian Intelligence, such as "wearing masks affects your oxygen intake." I think some of you are well aware of the misinformation being spread about SARS COVID 2 and the overt racism towards Muslims, African Americans, Latinos, and Asians. So when you accuse someone of being disingenuous, know and understand that when you support lies, half-truths, and overt racism, you are on the wrong side of the Constitution of the United States.
Freedom of Speech does not mean you can say whatever you feel like saying...
Perhaps you don't understand that you cannot run into a crowded theater and yell "fire" when there is no fire.
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Gamerguy84
Member
I also have been laughing at the hypocrisy of this thread. Then I realized its just abother fuck Sony thread. Im also surprised its lived this long and not moved to politics.
gunslikewhoa
Member
There are no exceptions under the first amendment for hate speech or racist speech. One can say whatever they want unless they are threatening or inciting violence.
igivehugs2nakedwomen
Banned
Edit: I was mistaken when I said hate speech wasn't constitutionally protected, however, it is true that you can't say whatever you want to say. Posting lies and certain "ideologies" on the internet is the same as running into a crowded theater and yelling "Fire!"
Dirk Benedict
Member
You read like a Twitter post, you aim to sound intelligent but you just sound like hot air with some fancy wording mixed in between. You have this condescension about you as well.
As for the First Amendment, it certainly protects the right to say what you want. But, you face consequences based on what you say. That's how the world works.
You are not protected from the consequences, but have a right to due process should it come to that.
gunslikewhoa
Member
Posting certain "ideologies?" What?
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