Playstation moving to tv and movies - yay or nay

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Not new news but hear it from Jimbo himself.

Imo SCE planned shows based on already storytelling heavy games, are a waste of money. Would prefer they invest in SCEJ or buy out some studios like Kojipro or pour more money to make psnow competitive

Sure the idea is simple to cross promote their franchises, pander to their fans and hope netflix/hbo nongamers may pick a ps5 or two.

That's simplistic and old school thoughts though. Gamers already gone through 6-8 hrs of cinematic cutscenes sequels, what more can be told through the shows. The premise of uncharted, tlou, aren't even that interesting to sit through a season or 2 of shows. 🤷‍♀️
 
While it would be nice if they put every single dollar into gaming, I think they have a good chance to create some hit shows and movies

Those views can make the games even more popular and greater profit margins might even go back into gaming: more games, bigger games

I'm fine as long as it doesn't affect the gaming division in a negative way
 
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Hobbygaming said:
While it would be nice if they put every single dollar into gaming, I think they have a good chance to create some hit shows and movies

Those views can make the games even more popular and greater profit margins might even go back into gaming: more games, bigger games

I'm fine as long as it doesn't affect the gaming division in a negative way
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That's the idea, or at least the common idea of old.

These days, it's about providing the best direct experience of that service.

Branching off just don't seems a smart thing imo. Sony throwing money into a wrong pit

Like would you spend hours chasing a tlou season? Generic settings can work fine in interactive games, but what content advantage does a tlou tv have?
 
longdi said:
That's the idea, or at least the common idea of old.

These days, it's about providing the best direct experience of that service.

Branching off just don't seems a smart thing imo. Sony throwing money into a wrong pit

Like would you spend hours chasing a tlou season? Generic settings can work fine in interactive games, but what content advantage does a tlou tv have?
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TLOU has the infected, and people love zombie shows and movies. It could be big for Sony we'll have to see
 
Hobbygaming said:
TLOU has the infected, and people love zombie shows and movies. It could be big for Sony we'll have to see
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One of my favourite shows of all time is Chernobyl. That was made out of basically nothing.

Their games have a lot of material to work with.

Only issue is they will likely be average and I have way too much outstanding stuff on watchlist with not enough time. So I think it will be waste of their resources.
 
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Well lets see we've got around three decades of games to movies, and every single one of them has ranged from unmitigated trash, to average/watchable at the absolute best. It doesn't work. Some extremely talented people have tried.
 
TexMex said:
Well lets see we've got around three decades of games to movies, and every single one of them has ranged from unmitigated trash, to average/watchable at the absolute best. It doesn't work. Some extremely talented people have tried.
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Why does Jimbo not take history lessons?
 
It's fine. I think it'll help fill the gap while game development happens for highly anticipated games. But the PlayStation gaming division needs more funding for acquisitions
 
They should be investing in new studios. Microsoft has grown massively, meanwhile Sony only bought Insomniac, who were making games for them already anyway.

Buy some Japanese studios instead of wasting money on temporary exclusives.
 
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Karonoth said:
They should be investing in new studios. Microsoft has grown massively, meanwhile Sony only bought Insomniac, who were making games for them already anyway.

Buy some Japanese studios instead of wasting money on temporary exclusives.
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I think they're still looking at studios, they're still mentioning acquisitions and organic growth. I think they might acquire Bluepoint and Housemarque if they haven't already signed contracts behind closed doors
 
What level of awful are they aiming for?

Are we talking Super Mario Bros. charming but in your face awful, or are we talking Resident Evil where they actually thought they were making something great while the world collectively laughed at them?
 
Yay. The shows and movies are not being made by the resources of SIE but by Sony Pictures, apart from advisory input. If the movies and shows are good, they might attract new audiences to their games. If they are good, I'll watch 'em, no one is losing. It is a win-win situation.
 
Sony is doing this because they think they can grow here.

Play God of War Ragnarok...watch God of War Netflix series...

They want Sony IP to be bigger than Microsoft's, Nintendo's, or anyone else for that matter.

Oh fuck does that mean we're getting another TLoU game?! FFS Sony!!
 
I'm not sure how to feel about adapting video game stories into other mediums in general honestly.

I think a large part of what makes a particular game's story as good they are is the interactivity that inherently exists in games. Say what you will about Sony's "movie games," but they are objectively more interactive than any movie. This, in turn, allows audiences to have a much easier time empathizing with the protagonist in a game when compared to a movie, assuming the quality of writing is equal between the two.

Arguably all game's stories are written with that interactivity in mind, and taking that away only weakens it in my mind.

I mean hell, I can't think of a single adaptation of a video game into another medium that was good, the best they ever seem to do is mediocre and that's seen as some huge victory.

(No, the Witcher does not count, that was derived from the books, not the games.)

I just don't think I'd care as much watching Joel exterminate the fireflies to save Ellie as I would actually doing it myself, or appreciate Kratos retrieving his Blades of Chaos without feeling the disappointment of their absence as I play.

Maybe they'll surprise me, I'm certainly not hoping Sony will fail in their endeavors, but based on history it doesn't seem like a prudent way to be spending their money, especially when the competition is getting stiffer and more aggressive in offering consumers compelling games and services.
 
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Why not? Sony is a massive entertainment company, they own TV networks and movie studios, any budget they spend doing TV shows or movies will come from those division budgets, not the Playstation division budget. Those things do not afect the ability to invest in new things inside the playstation division. After all the playstation division is the current most profitable division from Sony.
 
lol, relax. Sony can do more than 1 thing at a time. And there's absolutely zero evidence that the money being put towards these TV and movie endeavors is being taken from the budgets for the gaming studios. Sony has plenty of money to toss at both without breaking a sweat. Sony and Jim Ryan have reiterated several times that they're looking to grow via organic growth and acquisitions, but this ain't like shopping on Amazon. This shit doesn't just happen overnight and rushing to gobble up other companies only because a competitor is opening their wallet has a lot of potential to lead to disaster.

We know Sony were prepared to make a bid on Leyou a few months ago, but Tencent cockblocked that effort. That alone tells us they're perfectly happy to drop over a billion dollars on a single gaming acquisition, so let them work on whatever deals they're pursuing and we'll find out when the time is right. Rumors heavily indicate that they're preparing to acquire Bluepoint soon and I wouldn't be surprised if Housemarque comes soon after. Other than that and the Insomniac acquisition they've been massively bulking up all of their studios.

As for why do TV shows and movies? Sony's a gigantic entertainment company, why in the blue hell wouldn't they seek to take advantage of the plethora of valuable IP to make money in more ways? No doubt they want to create synergy between these shows and movies with their games, but those shows and movies can make money for them all on their own if they get some hits. There's absolutely no reason NOT to do this.
 
If it means weeding out "game" directors to let them make series and movies while real game people take their place, I'm all for it.
 
I imagine Sony would like to have their own "comic book moment" for their video game IP when it comes to entering mainstream popularity. TLOU has a decent shot at becoming a household name with its HBO series, or at least I think it should have a better shot than the Witcher did with its series. Imagine if we eventually get a big budget God of War mini series or movie, that shit will be amazing.

Keep in mind Sony ain't exactly new to the concept of video game IP becoming movies. The Resident Evil movies made them a buttload of cash. That's actually one of the reasons why I think they could eventually pick up a publisher like Square Enix or Capcom, so they can mine all of those valuable IP not only for games, but for TV shows and movies.
 
Playstation first party games have been Press X to Jason for the past 10 years anyway.

I started God of War 2018 on PS5 a few days ago and bursted out laughing when the "Press X to jump over chasms" came. In a fucking action game.
 
I would love to play the stories they come up with, not watch them. But they don't seem to have many studios who are interested in gameplay. SCE Japan Studio comes to mind but they seem to be horribly mismanaged.
 
Karonoth said:
They should be investing in new studios. Microsoft has grown massively, meanwhile Sony only bought Insomniac, who were making games for them already anyway.
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Sunset Overdrive shows they were dipping their feet in other waters and for all intents and purposes it seems that they have financed the expansions of many of their studios adding personnel and/or new teams (as well as supporting companies like Bluepoint, Kojima Productions, Housemarque, etc...).

Look for example at the expansion of Sucker Punch and the result of such investment (GoT) :). Still, yes they should expand their first party stable with studios like Bluepoint and Housemarque (albeit the latter needs to keep nimble as their genre is quite niche, their PS5 game will be their acquisition worthiness test IMHO).
 
Trimesh said:
They need to hire a luminary like Ewe Boll to show them how it's done.
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You laugh, but Uwe is far from the worst video game movie maker around. Look at the big budget attempts with Doom, assassin's creed, rampage, battleships, warcraft. Boll's efforts are better than them.
 
I support it. Its a move that makes sense for them considering Sony as a company.

It would be like questioning MS putting their games on PC or something (for years that shit never made sense why they avoided their own fucking platform). So I completely get why Sony would put their IP in such things.
 
My take after watching the video.

First of all, must everything be about "diversity" and "viewpoints", I mean what does that have to do with gaming?

Also, I'm not really a fan of this trend where games and movies are becoming heavily interwoven. It's beginning to actually affect game design, such as more scripted events, more emphasis on narrative, no more "gameplay first" mindset when designing games. The games are designed in such a way that it can be easily converted to a movie, it's no longer a game game, it's a game movie.

More so, I postulate that hiring all these expensive actors and actresses to do mocap and VAs is greatly increasing the game's development costs.

A resounding Nay from me.
 
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Can't believe the 7 people who voted yay.

You can't even setup a sceu with all the shows/movies in planning. This is still a silly project to take.

Like leaving scej to die a slow death without funds? I rather they put out some quirky japanese games that may bomb than needing to follow tv series. Not sure if people these days mind sitting even longer binge watching tv..
 
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longdi said:
Can't believe the 7 people who voted yay.

You can't even setup a sceu with all the shows/movies in planning. This is still a silly project to take.

Like leaving scej to die a slow death without funds? I rather they put out some quirky japanese games that may bomb than needing to follow tv series. Not sure if people these days mind sitting even longer binge watching tv..
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So you create a thread with a poll to shit on people with opposing viewpoints to your own? Piss off with that.

Sony is doing what they feel will grow their business and make money. NOT doing this is leaving money on the table, and the money going towards this is taking nothing at all away from the gaming division. Your stance is nonsensical and without basis.
 
vivftp said:
So you create a thread with a poll to shit on people with opposing viewpoints to your own? Piss off with that.

Sony is doing what they feel will grow their business and make money. NOT doing this is leaving money on the table, and the money going towards this is taking nothing at all away from the gaming division. Your stance is nonsensical and without basis.
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Not to shit on opinions,but to gather a sampled feels for this tv/movie direction.

And so far, the overwhelming numbers aren't excited for it. So it's surprising to see the small handful yays. Imo if this extends beyond core gamers, then I don't see how much more money left on this part of the table.
 
longdi said:
Not to shit on opinions,but to gather a sampled feels for this tv/movie direction.

And so far, the overwhelming numbers aren't excited for it. So it's surprising to see the small handful yays. Imo if this extends beyond core gamers, then I don't see how much more money left on this part of the table.
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Dude, it's 34 people currently with a nay which is completely insignificant in the grand scheme. Even if it were 3400 it would still mean nothing in terms of what's a good business move for Sony. They obviously feel it's a worthwhile direction to go in since they've got about 10 projects currently underway and more will no doubt be coming.

Again, this in NO WAY takes a damn thing away from their video game efforts. If you want to argue that money was diverted away from gaming for this then please provide some evidence. Sony has deep pockets to fund whatever they want, they don't have to sacrifice one thing to make another thing.
 
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