Playstation moving to tv and movies - yay or nay
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Moogle11
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Yay.
I'm always down for more shows to check out, and easy enough to drop them, or not start them, if they end up sucking.
Sony has a ton of IPs I love primarily for the stories, settings and characters, so I'd be all for some shows or movies featuring them as long as they're decent. Plus its not like game developers are likely to make these, so it shouldn't impact game output. It will just be Sony's existing movie wing paying people to make films with their IP instead of expensive IP they used to have the license for such as Spider-Man.
I'm always down for more shows to check out, and easy enough to drop them, or not start them, if they end up sucking.
Sony has a ton of IPs I love primarily for the stories, settings and characters, so I'd be all for some shows or movies featuring them as long as they're decent. Plus its not like game developers are likely to make these, so it shouldn't impact game output. It will just be Sony's existing movie wing paying people to make films with their IP instead of expensive IP they used to have the license for such as Spider-Man.
Sony Pictures knows how to get shit done.
But the oddball segregation of the Playstation brand like with their trash headphones while SONY brand headphones are incredible, makes it seem like they're not going to let the people have access to all the years of know how that Sony Pictures has.
If Playstation's TV shows and movies are more like Sony Pictures movies, then this will be great.
But the oddball segregation of the Playstation brand like with their trash headphones while SONY brand headphones are incredible, makes it seem like they're not going to let the people have access to all the years of know how that Sony Pictures has.
If Playstation's TV shows and movies are more like Sony Pictures movies, then this will be great.
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Knitted Knight
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About time they leveraged their gaming IP's with their movie studios and movie/series production know-how. It's all about the delivery and the quality of the product. Other companies simply don't have those resources nor the know-how and have to outsource with "partnerships" on a case by case basis. Considering how mainstream gaming is with millennials and the new generation, having those franchises on the big TV is a no brainer. Sony Pictures could do with some wins by branching where others can not content wise.
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Moogle11
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This. Sony Pictures is it's own, already existing branch of the company. Having them hire people to make movies with Sony gaming IP shouldn't impact the gaming side at all.
Knitted Knight
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The quasi equivalence to MS in 2013 being thrown around in shade by some folks is not only moronic but it also shows how scarred some people truly are still from the console wars two generations in a row. Broken folk with Nam' flashbacks. Acting like console DRM for physical discs to do away with the used-resale market wasn't a part of the hate. Revisionism of inconvenient truths.
There is no equivalence there. One company talked about "games doing the talking" and showed only games, delivered on games and has a clear roadmap with a ton of games to deliver while marketing a games console. The other chose its conference in 2013 to promote TV' content, and DRM and still hasn't delivered on the endless promises for 7 years and counting.
Let the impotent rage consume them.
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michaelius
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Uncharted could make a really nice Indiana Jones style movie (Tomb Raider movies were at least watchable)
TLOU could be basic for good zombie apocalypse movie (first one)
Horizon could also work really well on big screen with mecha dinosaurs
There's potential for quality if executed well.
TLOU could be basic for good zombie apocalypse movie (first one)
Horizon could also work really well on big screen with mecha dinosaurs
There's potential for quality if executed well.
michaelius
Banned
Take that back - Mortal Kombat remains one of the few solid movies among the game based one
kuncol02
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I like it. But that was not a good movie in any way.
StreetsofBeige
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TV
Fox Mulder
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It's always funny when game developers think their goty franchises with thin plots are Oscar worthy or something. This shit will almost always be awful if judged like a tv show or movie.
StreetsofBeige
Member
Totally. They think because they win video game awards, they are better than any tv/movie maker that didn't win awards.
It's like a player in AA minor leagues winning MVP and they automatically think they are as good as MVP Mike Trout.
Video game scripts, dialogue and cut scenes are almost always terrible. And that doesn't even include the artwork, bad animations or off kilter lip syncing that might be bad too.
It's like cars and pick ups. They each have a purpose. I don't see sedan makers trying to beat trucks in cargo space and pulling power, and I don't see pick up makers trying to be as sleek as a luxury car where you pull up to a restaurant with a date and drop her off in an F-150.
Yet game makers have this urge to be like Hollywood tv shows and movies.
I don't see movie makers try to make movies and shows interactive by getting them to buy a gadget and be like Action Max.
Weird.
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ZehDon
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Sony Pictures has put out some duds - I don't expect great things here. The storytelling standards in video games are pretty low, and if they've bought into the critical bubble here, thinking they've got amazing story tellers ready to tell Emmy winning stuff... they're gonna waste a lot of money realising they don't.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Not new news but hear it from Jimbo himself.
Imo SCE planned shows based on already storytelling heavy games, are a waste of money. Would prefer they invest in SCEJ or buy out some studios like Kojipro or pour more money to make psnow competitive
Sure the idea is simple to cross promote their franchises, pander to their fans and hope netflix/hbo nongamers may pick a ps5 or two.
That's simplistic and old school thoughts though. Gamers already gone through 6-8 hrs of cinematic cutscenes sequels, what more can be told through the shows. The premise of uncharted, tlou, aren't even that interesting to sit through a season or 2 of shows.
Is this 2013 all over again?
longdi
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excatly!
all those inner-self quips Drake does, it will sound terrible on the big screen should Tom Holland be made to do the same, cos 'games IP'!
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Dark Star
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Knitted Knight
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He does quite a few of them as Spider-man on the big screen. They land well for the most part.excatly!
all those inner-self quips Drake does, it will sound terrible on the big screen should Tom Holland be made to do the same, cos 'games IP'!
Aenima
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For SCE Japan to be doomed, it needed to exist, and thers no such thing as a SCE Japan. If you talking about SIE Japan Studio, they already released 2 games for PS5. Astro's Playroom and Demon's Souls in colaboration with BluePoint. You creating unecessary FUD out of ignorance.Sce Japan comes to mind, or what's left of them. The new age of Sce under Jim seems unlikeable
For your information SCE America/ Europe/ Japan, dont exist since 2016. All those divisions merged into SIE that operates wordwide.
Uncharted Movie was produced by Columbia Pictures, that is owned by Sony. Is not SIE that is making the movies and TV shows, its other Sony divisions. They are using SIE created IP, and they would be dumb not to use they own popular IPs.
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sublimit
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It's not even remotely the same. It was completely different what MS tried to do with what Sony now tries to do.
Only butthurt xbox fanboys think these are even remotely comparable.
Bo_Hazem
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Some people here think PlayStation is doing the heavy lifting, which is not. This is Sony Pictures division, so YAY!
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Sony Pictures CEO Teases A Wave of New PlayStation Film & TV Projects Beyond 'Uncharted' & 'The Last of Us'
In summer 2019, Sony Pictures made the PlayStation Productions, announcement–a new creative division that would develop new film and television projects based on their video games. It’s been over a year since we’ve heard much, but a new update has arrived from Sony Pictures CEO Tony...
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Jaxcellent
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Sony production values could be just the thing that pushes series to the next level, I reckon we can see some tie ins later down the line, imagine we will be comparing the character model of the PS5 game to the real live action series and having a hard time figuring out which is which.
yurinka
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Not new news but hear it from Jimbo himself.
Imo SCE planned shows based on already storytelling heavy games, are a waste of money. Would prefer they invest in SCEJ or buy out some studios like Kojipro or pour more money to make psnow competitive
Sure the idea is simple to cross promote their franchises, pander to their fans and hope netflix/hbo nongamers may pick a ps5 or two.
That's simplistic and old school thoughts though. Gamers already gone through 6-8 hrs of cinematic cutscenes sequels, what more can be told through the shows. The premise of uncharted, tlou, aren't even that interesting to sit through a season or 2 of shows.
PlayStation isn't 'moving' anywere, miss Phil Spencer. SCE (well, SIE) will continue making only games, the PlayStation Studios is a Sony Pictures thing. SCEJ just released a couple of great games, they mentioned that will continue growing their own studios and acquiring new ones once they see fit and also mentioned to be working on improving PS Now for the next gen in several areas.
From the SIE side it goes beyond getting some extra players from the people who sees the Netflix show.To license their IPs for movies, TV shows and so on (like any other marketing stuff) gives them extra revenue directly and indirectly. They get directly get money from licensing the movie and tv show, and also increases the IP and brand value both of these games and PlayStation or Sony, which helps to get more money in the stock market or with future licensing deals. Money that later gets invested on making these games that every generation become more and more expensive to make.
I mean, to make these movies and so on doesn't mean they will spend less money or resources on games. The opposite, in the long term they will have more money and resources to develop games, acquire studios or improve their services thanks to the revenue coming from these movies and tv shows.
And well, Sony also has other divisions like Sony Pictures and so on, the anime streaming stuff, etc. Who also welcome very popular IPs specially if they are from Sony itself. They and the HBO/Netflix/whoever professionals will know if there is material to make a movie, several movies, mini series, a longer tv shows with more or less seasons, as they may consider.
Please stop with the FUD, miss Spencer. Japan Studio is the only studio I remember who released 2 next gen games and months ago grew opening a new studio division to better help the external studios who work with them (which I assume it means that they will increase the number of games that Japan Studio publishes and are mostly or totally developed by other studios). They obviously are properly funded.
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AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I am probably not the right person to ask as I think SNE should divest of SPE and double down on gaming.
Reasons being that MS is being extra aggressive on gaming. We don't see fruits of it now, but will in the future IMO. Sony needs to stay aggressive in gaming. PSNow could have been what GP is trying to be but they half assed it.
I also think game IPs have a harder transition to movies and TV shows than books or comics. Even before the MCU we had some good comic book movies like Blade and even before that Batman and Superman. I mean Ratchet and Clank or Mario are more about gameplay than story. Nobody cares about saving the Princess, it's all about the gameplay that's fun.
Some games may have better ambience and lore for TV shows and movies like TLOU and Bioshock. But a lot of games have had inspiration from movies anyways (Uncharted for example). TLOU could try to replicate the success of TWD, but much like TWD the appeal will run out quickly once the initial zombie thing gets old. I am also not sure the impact would be the same watching an actor carry Ellie down the corridor as opposed to you playing Joel doing the same.
I think Uncharted is going to be a poor man's Indiana Jones movie and Tom Holland was not the right choice for Drake IMO. I am not expecting quality movies or even quality popcorn movies from them.
Reasons being that MS is being extra aggressive on gaming. We don't see fruits of it now, but will in the future IMO. Sony needs to stay aggressive in gaming. PSNow could have been what GP is trying to be but they half assed it.
I also think game IPs have a harder transition to movies and TV shows than books or comics. Even before the MCU we had some good comic book movies like Blade and even before that Batman and Superman. I mean Ratchet and Clank or Mario are more about gameplay than story. Nobody cares about saving the Princess, it's all about the gameplay that's fun.
Some games may have better ambience and lore for TV shows and movies like TLOU and Bioshock. But a lot of games have had inspiration from movies anyways (Uncharted for example). TLOU could try to replicate the success of TWD, but much like TWD the appeal will run out quickly once the initial zombie thing gets old. I am also not sure the impact would be the same watching an actor carry Ellie down the corridor as opposed to you playing Joel doing the same.
I think Uncharted is going to be a poor man's Indiana Jones movie and Tom Holland was not the right choice for Drake IMO. I am not expecting quality movies or even quality popcorn movies from them.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Not new news but hear it from Jimbo himself.
Imo SCE planned shows based on already storytelling heavy games, are a waste of money. Would prefer they invest in SCEJ or buy out some studios like Kojipro or pour more money to make psnow competitive
Sure the idea is simple to cross promote their franchises, pander to their fans and hope netflix/hbo nongamers may pick a ps5 or two.
That's simplistic and old school thoughts though. Gamers already gone through 6-8 hrs of cinematic cutscenes sequels, what more can be told through the shows. The premise of uncharted, tlou, aren't even that interesting to sit through a season or 2 of shows.
I will not click to see an idiot like Jim Ryan, what I mean is put a tv series of Gravity rush.
Wat lol. MS tried to push ridiculous DRM policies, launched a less powerful console for $100 more, and decided to take a 10 year break from pushing a quality library. How is releasing a few movies any way comparable?
ChuckeRearmed
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It is a modern trend these days
Burythelight
Member
Apple to oranges. Xbox trolls are so stupid to compare ces to gaming show.
Kokoloko85
Member
No thanks.... Theres enough on TV.
Give me more games
Give me more games
Svengoolie007
Banned
I'm all for it.
Snake29
Banned
Sounds like you still haven't recovered from that generation. Microsoft was not really capable to focus on both the games and Tv part.
This is something else. Tv series/movies are way more popular nowadays with streaming, then ever before. Your acting like Sony has no experience with this lol.
They are the only one that can create great movies and tv series, and at the same time PlayStation can deliver their killer games.
Congratulations on being the first person in this very thread to share this original thought.
OnionSnake
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I'm not against the idea, given Sony's history in movies and TV, I do however remember the last time they tried a TV show from their gaming division.
Wasn't great, real missed opportunity.
Wasn't great, real missed opportunity.
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Derktron
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Seem like you are triggered that I said that and bias over the fact that Sony is still doing what Xbox is doing and it's pathetic that gamers treat Sony as fucking kings and act like their shit is golden. That's how I see it on both sides so don't come with the crap that I'm some type of damn fanboy of Microsoft because I'm not. Both companies are pathetic and sometimes need to be held accountable when it comes to this when Sony themselves has made fun of Microsoft over the things they are doing.
bitbydeath
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I'm all for it. Sharing IP with the movie division has nothing to do with the gaming division though.
I think a lot of people don't even know what Sony produce on that side.
I think a lot of people don't even know what Sony produce on that side.
longdi
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It's Marvel, they are pretty good with that. Well at least since dumping Joss after AoU.
Just because someone responds when you say something dumb doesn't mean they're triggered. What mistakes are Sony making that's the same as MS? As far as treating them "like kings", Sony has a pretty incredible track record so they've earned a lot of trust. 3/4 of their gens have been great and even the ps3 ended up being good after the disastrous start.
Arkam
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I would love to see more cross pollination of Sony Motion Picture and Sony Interactive Entertainment. But would prefer it being a long incubation process before committing to a film adaptation of a PS Studio game IP. Ratchet and Clank was decent enough, but I think they can do much better.