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[Black-Wind]

In DP, Ponyta is the only wild fire Pokémon except for Slugma/Macargo and Numel/Camerupt in Stark Mountain (Heatran too, I guess)
Platinum adds Magmar and Houndour, but you don't come across them for a while.

Thats another thing, allot of the fire Pokemon seem to be lame as shit outside of the starters and sometimes the legendary Pokemon. And for 2 gens in a row they have used the same Type combo for the Fire Starters.

I hope that Zoroark is a sign of them making more and better Pokemon for under repped types (Like how Lucario was a sign of them making so many fight type combos in DP :/ )

 

[ILikeFeet]

I like it. I also know some people who will go ape shit over this. :lol can't wait till they reveal the gameplay

 

[EvilMario]

Ideally speaking, the new Zoroark will be Dark/Fighting, which would make him unique. He would be resistant to SR and have fantastic dual STAB for attacking. It will be interesting to see his base stats. He appears to be rather skinny, frail and fast, like Weavile. Losing the dreaded Ice typing will help though, and especially if he manages to land STAB Close Combat, or a unique high powered dark move.

I really think he would make a great Rapid Spinner, thanks to his STAB Dark moves keeping Ghost away.

 

[Magni]

Thats another thing, allot of the fire Pokemon seem to be lame as shit outside of the starters and sometimes the legendary Pokemon. And for 2 gens in a row they have used the same Type combo for the Fire Starters.

I hope that Zoroark is a sign of them making more and better Pokemon for under repped types (Like how Lucario was a sign of them making so many fight type combos in DP :/ )

That's why I didn't choose a Water-type for the first time ever in Platinum. Not only do I dislike Steel-types, but the lack of Fire-types in Diamond was sickening..

 

[Affeinvasion]

He would be resistant to SR and have fantastic dual STAB for attacking. It will be interesting to see his base stats...and especially if he manages to land STAB Close Combat, or a unique high powered dark move.

I really think he would make a great Rapid Spinner, thanks to his STAB Dark moves keeping Ghost away.

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I'm always amazed at the ridiculous meta-game in Pokemon that the developers probably don't even think about that much (aside from IVs or EVs or whatever the fuck they're called).

The pokemon is a bad-assed looking evil fox. Good enough for me.

 

[cory]

I choose fire on my first playthrough every time, and I always get the "Red" version (I triple checked that Diamond was the Red version). For Platinum I chose Piplup, and it was actually harder than water usually is.

 

[Gravijah]

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I'm always amazed at the ridiculous meta-game in Pokemon that the developers probably don't even think about that much (aside from IVs or EVs or whatever the fuck they're called).

The pokemon is a bad-assed looking evil fox. Good enough for me.

Trust me, a meta-game like that is thought about. It's not an accident.

 

[Magni]

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I'm always amazed at the ridiculous meta-game in Pokemon that the developers probably don't even think about that much (aside from IVs or EVs or whatever the fuck they're called).

The pokemon is a bad-assed looking evil fox. Good enough for me.

Uh, STAB (Same Type Attack Bonus) is the BASIS of Pokémon. Everyone knows that a Fire type using a Fire move does more damage than a Water type using that same Fire move (with comparable stats of course).

 

[spidye]

I triple checked that Diamond was the Red version

how do you know that diamond was the red version?

 

[Chozo]

how do you know that diamond was the red version?

Because it is clearly the better version for manly men.

Duh.

 

[Affeinvasion]

Seems arbitrary to me, personally. There wasn't one feature that made Red "red" aside from default character name and available pokemon. Diamond could have been blue by that same designation.

 

[Teknoman]

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I'm always amazed at the ridiculous meta-game in Pokemon that the developers probably don't even think about that much (aside from IVs or EVs or whatever the fuck they're called).

The pokemon is a bad-assed looking evil fox. Good enough for me.

They tossed in a bunch of items, berries, moves/abilities that have vague descriptions...i'm sure they really thought those out.

 

[Affeinvasion]

I'm more referring to the terminology than the overall underlying mechanics of the game. Acronyms and designations like "rapid spinner" or whatever are what make me laugh. Whatever happened to the good old days of leveling crappy pokemon up to 100 and just defeating everything in your path?

 

[Drkirby]

Pokemon Stadium 3.

There already is one. See, 3 ^


But yes, we need a new one, made by HAL again too. Saddly HAL and Game Freak aren't in the same building anymore.

 

[Black-Wind]

how do you know that diamond was the red version?

Cause it's the cool version. Theres always one version that sells better for a reason!

 

[Starwolf_UK]

But yes, we need a new one, made by HAL again too. Saddly HAL and Game Freak aren't in the same building anymore.

Don't forget Factor 5 (they did the Pokemon voices for the game and I think provided the sound engine...)

Cause it's the cool version. Theres always one version that sells better for a reason!

Up into Soul Silver it was the one that was said first when you say Pokemon x and y (as it goes Heart Gold and Soul Silver and Soul Silver is the better selling one).

 

[EvilMario]

I'm more referring to the terminology than the overall underlying mechanics of the game. Acronyms and designations like "rapid spinner" or whatever are what make me laugh. Whatever happened to the good old days of leveling crappy pokemon up to 100 and just defeating everything in your path?

Yeah, how horrible. Not like there was ever a R/B/G metagame.

Cry me a river. People take time to build a metagame, and most of what it is was based off Nintendo's own rules through tournaments (although they tend to favor 2v2 now). Nothing is stopping you from 'defeating everything in your path' in-game, and leaving it at that.

Game Freak is clearly thinking about the larger issues (and failing in a few regards), when they have moves like Toxic Spikes, Rapid Spin, and Stealth Rocks, that would almost never be seen in-game.. but are relied upon heavily in competitive play.

Blah blah.

 

[survivor]

Just saw the new Pokemon, looks pretty awesome. For some reason I like the pre-evolved form of the new Pokemon. Though that hair is really badass.

 

[cory]

how do you know that diamond was the red version?

By what Pokémon were available. But I'm still not sure. I guess because Palkia is half water.

 

[upandaway]

Man, you know what I think? Ice should be super effective on fighting just like fighting is super effective on ice. They can both happen, so why the fuck not?

Look, if your muscles get cold, you can't do physical stuff. If I freeze your muscles outright then you're done. You warm up before you do these things.

My god it makes so much sense. I should charge money for speaking.

 

[Teknoman]

Well personally, I dont mind all that stuff, they just need to make effort values visible...a small meter or something.

Still hope generation 5 is turn based, just with a faster battle system and better animations/idle animations. Look to Dragon Quest IV-VI for inspiration.

 

[Pyrokai]

Do you guys think they will ever update the calls of the generation I and II Pokemon? Don't get me wrong, I love they they still have the same calls, but they're still the 8-bit noises and sound very, very dated. I just want them to update the sound, while keeping it the same, with the same stuff they use for the creatures in Diamond and Pearl.

Make it happen, Nintendo.

 

[Teknoman]

Man, you know what I think? Ice should be super effective on fighting just like fighting is super effective on ice. They can both happen, so why the fuck not?

Look, if your muscles get cold, you can't do physical stuff. If I freeze your muscles outright then you're done. You warm up before you do these things.

My god it makes so much sense. I should charge money for speaking.

:lol You know that actually makes sense.

 

[udivision]

You can't have a system with so many variables like Pokemon and not have people figure out the best mixes and matches of said variables.

 

[Shiggie]

This makes me want an MMORPG sooooo much. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4344886787_19725def5d_o.jpg

 

[Magni]

Something else Gen V needs: the Pokémon Genome Project! No seriously, some "Pokémon Gene Checker" Key Item which would tell you your Pokémon's IVs would we great.

Right now:

1)Save
2)Enter Pokémon/Nature/Characteristic into IV Calculator
3)Rare Candy
4)Note down stats into IV calculator
5)Repeat 3-4 until all IVs narrowed down
6)Reboot

sooo tedious..

 

[Hot Coldman]

This makes me want an MMORPG sooooo much. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4344886787_19725def5d_o.jpg

Nah, that just makes me want to have Pokemon in real life.

Pokemon in real life- every man's dream.

 

[Gravijah]

Do you guys think they will ever update the calls of the generation I and II Pokemon? Don't get me wrong, I love they they still have the same calls, but they're still the 8-bit noises and sound very, very dated. I just want them to update the sound, while keeping it the same, with the same stuff they use for the creatures in Diamond and Pearl.

Make it happen, Nintendo.

You don't fuck with the call of a Pokemon.

 

[CruxisMana]

LTTP but colour me pleasantly surprised.

I was expecting something borderline ugly, but they both look quite good.

Zorua looks adorably evil.

And am I safe in assuming that these are their Japanese names (which will change)?

 

[upandaway]

Nah, that just makes me want to have Pokemon in real life.

Pokemon in real life- every man's dream.

I'm just gonna up that one and say "real life in Pokemon" is a superior idea.

And am I safe in assuming that these are their Japanese names (which will change)?

Yep.

 

[selig]

IV-bred/EV-trained Charmander could have better stats than random Charizard, but with the same IVs/EVs, the Charizard will always have higher stats than the Charmander (due to its higher Base Stats UIM).

so there really is no point in using a non-fully evolved Pokemon, eh?

 

[Hot Coldman]

I'm just gonna up that one and say "real life in Pokemon" is a superior idea.

There's a real life inside all of us, baby.

 

[OMG Aero]

Because it is clearly the better version for manly men.

Duh.

But the saying goes that Diamonds are a girls best friend.

 

[Shiggie]

I'm just gonna up that one and say "real life in Pokemon" is a superior idea.


Yep.

I know im not the only 20 year old and up that still daydreams about this.

 

[Magni]

so there really is no point in using a non-fully evolved Pokemon, eh?

For most competitive play, no. For unevolved-tier play (it exists, right?), and for fun (SP, MP with friends), sure there is.

 

[Magni]

I know im not the only 20 year old and up that still daydreams about this.

I'm 18 but in two years I'll still be dreaming about this :lol

 

[Hot Coldman]

I know im not the only 20 year old and up that still daydreams about this.

Pokemon is overdue for a big budget live-action movie IMO. That would be good enough, as long as Hollywood wouldn't do to the Pokemon what Bay did to the Transformers. Get the Wachowskis do it, it'd be great.

 

[EvilMario]

so there really is no point in using a non-fully evolved Pokemon, eh?

Most Pokemon metagames are broken down into tiers. Few un-evolved Pokemon have advantages over their evolved counter parts (think Scyther, Pikachu, Porygon2), since their base stats are generally less.

However, in the case of a Pokemon like Dragonite who is 'overused' someone may opt to use Dragonair in a lesser tier 'underused', because Dragonite is banned there.

There is also a tier that is generally called 'Little Cup' which uses unevolved Pokemon that are level 5. It's actually the fastest, hardest hitting tier, because almost everything is either one, or two hit KOed.

Get all that? :lol

 

[Hero of Legend]

I finally uploaded the original PBR trailer in it's original 320x240 resolution (YouTube resize aside), I had to take the original stream, converted it after searching for what seemed like ages for the right program, and cut the trailer out of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO4Lyc4NoFQ

IGN and other sites strangely only put up a 160x120 resolution version, and only filb uploaded the original resolution (and in English too), but slapped their watermark on it.

Probably not a big deal now, but I provided it so you have a better way to see the old trailer.

Edit: I mean look at this:

 

[ILikeFeet]

Pokemon is overdue for a big budget live-action movie IMO. That would be good enough, as long as Hollywood wouldn't do to the Pokemon what Bay did to the Transformers. Get the Wachowskis do it, it'd be great.

how about no. I don't think Hollywood or Nipponwood would do the game justice (the current movies already don't)

 

[Black-Wind]

Pokemon is overdue for a big budget live-action movie IMO. That would be good enough, as long as Hollywood wouldn't do to the Pokemon what Bay did to the Transformers. Get the Wachowskis do it, it'd be great.

But how would Pikachu LOOK in real life?

Thats one thing that I think they would have to get right as to not make it look like they are just cartoons in a real world. :/

 

[Boogiepop]

so there really is no point in using a non-fully evolved Pokemon, eh?

There's a FEW that aren't just flat out outclassed by their evolutions, like Scyther to Scizor. Of course Scizor is still a better pokemon, but at least it doesn't completely invalidate Scyther. I'm sure there's a few others, but yeah, outside of tiers blocking usage of their evolutions, they're pretty much useless.

 

[Hot Coldman]

But how would Pikachu LOOK in real life?

Thats one thing that I think they would have to get right as to not make it look like they are just cartoons in a real world. :/

Fur shaders. Lots and lots of fur shaders.

 

[Chozo]

Man, you know what I think? Ice should be super effective on fighting just like fighting is super effective on ice. They can both happen, so why the fuck not?

Look, if your muscles get cold, you can't do physical stuff. If I freeze your muscles outright then you're done. You warm up before you do these things.

My god it makes so much sense. I should charge money for speaking.

It kinda does make sense, actually. But ice is already such a godly attacking type that it'll never happen.

But the saying goes that Diamonds are a girls best friend.

The real saying is "Diamonds: She'll Pretty Much Have To." And is the pursuit of poon not one of man's most manly and noble endeavors?

On a more serious note to the metagame discussion, I hope we actually get some new rapid spinners in 5th gen. That or tone down Stealth Rock (50% on a quad weak Pokemon? Really?).

 

[Teknoman]

Most Pokemon metagames are broken down into tiers. Few un-evolved Pokemon have advantages over their evolved counter parts (think Scyther, Pikachu, Porygon2), since their base stats are generally less.

However, in the case of a Pokemon like Dragonite who is 'overused' someone may opt to use Dragonair in a lesser tier 'underused', because Dragonite is banned there.

There is also a tier that is generally called 'Little Cup' which uses unevolved Pokemon that are level 5. It's actually the fastest, hardest hitting tier, because almost everything is either one, or two hit KOed.

Get all that? :lol

Well with Scyther and Scizor, shouldnt the two different dual types come into play?

 

[ILikeFeet]

Fur shaders. Lots and lots of fur shaders.

but Pikachu isn't fuzzy. is it?

 

[Hero of Legend]

But how would Pikachu LOOK in real life?

Thats one thing that I think they would have to get right as to not make it look like they are just cartoons in a real world. :/

Hey, I'd take the Roger Rabbit route over trying and epic failing to make the Pokemon into real-life creatures.

 

[EvilMario]

Well with Scyther and Scizor, shouldnt the two different dual types come into play?

Yes, that's why people will use both Pokemon. They vary in stat distribution and typing. But it's uncommon for a Pokemon to be asd 'usable' in a competitive sense, if it has a further evolution.

Scyther is actually a great Pokemon, but he is really punished by Stealth Rocks and the further rise of Steels this generation.

 

[Hot Coldman]

but Pikachu isn't fuzzy. is it?

I always imagined so. It hasn't got yellow skin has it :lol

Ah fuck it, they should just get Chris Rock to play Pikachu. Shia LaBeouf is Ash, Gary Shandling is Brock and Eddie Izzard is Misty. DONE.

 

[lordfroakie]

Anyone have some extra dittos?