Forkball said:Zoroark is a bit "TO THE XTREME" but Zoroa is a really cool design. I can't wait for more information to be released, and it better be good info about gameplay innovations instead of "zomg new pokemanz."
They would have to get some REALLY GOOD animators for that.Hero of Legend said:Hey, I'd take the Roger Rabbit route over trying and epic failing to make the Pokemon into real-life creatures.
I agree that Zoroa doesn't look as good but that mostly from the common cute-ish shape.Green Scar said:What, really? Zoroa looks too much like Shinx to me.
Yeah, I think it could turn out being female in the movie.sjt333 said:Zoroark looks like it has makeup on.
Drapion is a motherfucker!viciouskillersquirrel said:Just to weigh in on the whole "Wah wah, fire, dark, dragon and steel types are too rare! Wah Wah!". Let me tell you something: Game Freak primarily make the Pokemon games to cater to kids. This means that they can't go overboard with types that kids will consider "cool" and use above all else, nor can they allow these to become overpowered lest they completely break the game. Kids LOVE fire types - they seem destructive and powerful. Kids LOVE dark types - they seem naughty and subversive. Kids LOVE dragon types - they have an aura of magic and mystery. Kids LOVE steel types - they seem invulnerable and strong. All of them make kids feel like they're rebelling against their parent's values just a little.
That's why there are so many water types and why Pikachu and Raichu are so damn underpowered and Charizard was neutered - not making them that way would break the multiplayer part of the game and discourage kids who don't like what these types represent from joining in on the fun. What you people should be clamouring for are more pure bug, ice, flying and plant types worth a damn.
Unicorn said:Drapion is a motherfucker!
Poison/Dark. so glorious. too bad ice rapes his shit.
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He made a great addition in my team until I ran into the above....
Yeah, and who doesn't have Ice on their team :CUrban Scholar said:He made a great addition in my team until I ran into the above....
Why would Drapion be troubled by ice?Unicorn said:Drapion is a motherfucker!
Poison/Dark. so glorious. too bad ice rapes his shit.
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Oh sorry. It's ground that's 4x damage. Everyone has earthquake, so that's 4x damage to him.OMG Aero said:Why would Drapion be troubled by ice?
Fixed.Unicorn said:Yeah, and who doesn't have Ice moves on their team :C
what?MidnightScott said:I really lime his design though, looks badass. Guess it isn't a legendary though.
I call . . . BULL SHIT!viciouskillersquirrel said:Just to weigh in on the whole "Wah wah, fire, dark, dragon and steel types are too rare! Wah Wah!". Let me tell you something: Game Freak primarily make the Pokemon games to cater to kids. This means that they can't go overboard with types that kids will consider "cool" and use above all else, nor can they allow these to become overpowered lest they completely break the game. Kids LOVE fire types - they seem destructive and powerful. Kids LOVE dark types - they seem naughty and subversive. Kids LOVE dragon types - they have an aura of magic and mystery. Kids LOVE steel types - they seem invulnerable and strong. All of them make kids feel like they're rebelling against their parent's values just a little.
That's why there are so many water types and why Pikachu and Raichu are so damn underpowered and Charizard was neutered - not making them that way would break the multiplayer part of the game and discourage kids who don't like what these types represent from joining in on the fun. What you people should be clamouring for are more pure bug, ice, flying and plant types worth a damn.
K and M are very close on the Keyboard!Unicorn said:what?
Black-Wind said:I call . . . BULL SHIT!
Theres a HUGE difference between "keeping fire/ dark/ steel/ dragon types rare" and making damn near EVERY new Fire Pokemon complete shit out of the hand full of Fire Pokemon added. Just look at the 4th gen . . . I can't think of any new line of Fire Pokemon other then the Fire Ass chimp that bites Blazikan's style by being yet another Fire/ Fighting type. What else did we get? A evolution in the form of Magmortar? And legendary? Thats it? Nothing else?
If kids LIKE these types then why shouldn't they get better representation then they currently are? Why can't they make a few "cool" water Pokemon that kids will love instead of stuffing the game full of shitty, useless ones? Why can't Fire get a few cool additions and be left at that instead of getting the forced fire starter along with . . . nothing else but a evolv and a legendary?
Yes, there are whore types that most never are represented in their pure form . . . Dark is like that (only 5 currently in the game that aren't part something. 7 adding these new ones) and Steel is to (only 2 . . .and ones a legendary. I want a fucking Mawile evolve!)
I don't care if their "rare", I'm just want them to BE there in some form other then starters and legendaries and shitty thingamajigs. What, they can't add, say, 2 full lines of "cool" fire Pokemon without risking them being over used or over powering? Is flooding the game with weak/ shitty water Pokemon gonna change anything?
Should starters even be counted in any of this? They are forced to make them at least SOMEWHAT appealing and useful as long as they try to keep the fire/grass/water starter face off.Gravijah said:Swampert biaaaaaatch.
Of all seventeen types, the Water-type is the most abundant, with 92 Pokémon species being Water-type, nearly 19% of the entire known National Pokédex.
Hopefully gen 5 will change more in terms of gameplay than give us a new starter trio of different types.Black-Wind said:Should starters even be counted in any of this? They are forced to make them at least SOMEWHAT appealing and useful as long as they try to keep the fire/grass/water starter face off.
By no means does that line of Pokemon make the shit tons of lame water Pokemon anything more then a over represented type.
I think everyone does. GF just digs a bigger hole trying to fit some sort of story around them. Seriously, the GOD of pokemon? catchable?!Pyrokai said:I hate legendaries.
That is all.
I agree. I think they made it a point to add in ever single feature from ever past game because they are going to do something very different this time.cms382 said:HGSS will probably be the peak of the original formula.
Can't wait for some actual change. (I know they've made a lot of additions, and slight changes, but there's a lot they could do with it still being 100% Pokémon.)
I'm not talking about the competitive metagame, dude. I'm talking about kids. Kids are more likely to play with their favourites no matter what. If popular favourites just happen to be overpowered (let's assume Houndoom wasn't made of glass), it means that kids who don't have a specific counter to it won't have any fun because a LOT of kids used to use it back in the GSC days.Black-Wind said:I call . . . BULL SHIT!
Theres a HUGE difference between "keeping fire/ dark/ steel/ dragon types rare" and making damn near EVERY new Fire Pokemon complete shit out of the hand full of Fire Pokemon added. Just look at the 4th gen . . . I can't think of any new line of Fire Pokemon other then the Fire Ass chimp that bites Blazikan's style by being yet another Fire/ Fighting type. What else did we get? A evolution in the form of Magmortar? And legendary? Thats it? Nothing else?
If kids LIKE these types then why shouldn't they get better representation then they currently are? Why can't they make a few "cool" water Pokemon that kids will love instead of stuffing the game full of shitty, useless ones? Why can't Fire get a few cool additions and be left at that instead of getting the forced fire starter along with . . . nothing else but a evolv and a legendary?
Yes, there are whore types that most never are represented in their pure form . . . Dark is like that (only 5 currently in the game that aren't part something. 7 adding these new ones) and Steel is to (only 2 . . .and ones a legendary. I want a fucking Mawile evolve!)
I don't care if their "rare", I'm just want them to BE there in some form other then starters and legendaries and shitty thingamajigs. What, they can't add, say, 2 full lines of "cool" fire Pokemon without risking them being over used or over powering? Is flooding the game with weak/ shitty water Pokemon gonna change anything?
Dark isn't weak to ground. He does take double from Earthquake, but he has no 4x weaknesses and ground is his only 2x weakness.Unicorn said:Oh sorry. It's ground that's 4x damage. Everyone has earthquake, so that's 4x damage to him.
been so long since i've played Pearl. forgotten my type chart.
You're saying that there aren't more awesome fire types like Charizard because otherwise some kid will come along with 6 Charizards and destroy some other kid's team of Pikachu and Diglett? Yet they accidentally left a Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina laying right in the path of the main storyline?viciouskillersquirrel said:I'm not talking about the competitive metagame, dude. I'm talking about kids. Kids are more likely to play with their favourites no matter what. If popular favourites just happen to be overpowered (let's assume Houndoom wasn't made of glass), it means that kids who don't have a specific counter to it won't have any fun because a LOT of kids used to use it back in the GSC days.
I'm not talking competitive . . . oh no, I'm not a competitive Pokemon player by any means. 0_oviciouskillersquirrel said:I'm not talking about the competitive metagame, dude. I'm talking about kids. Kids are more likely to play with their favourites no matter what. If popular favourites just happen to be overpowered (let's assume Houndoom wasn't made of glass), it means that kids who don't have a specific counter to it won't have any fun because a LOT of kids used to use it back in the GSC days.
Also, the "filler" monsters exist to give players who take the time to find and raise something good (Milotic/Gyarados/Tyranitar etc.) a sense of reward. In short, the crap makes the gold more special. A lot of kids will never even see a wild Feebas or work out where to catch Dratini, let alone do what's required to raise them properly.
The games are balanced so that kids can play and enjoy them. Not for you.
ALL the kids would have access to the legendaries, don't forget. A legendary is its own counter. A kid's typical team in the RBY days was:IcedTea said:You're saying that there aren't more awesome fire types like Charizard because otherwise some kid will come along with 6 Charizards and destroy some other kid's team of Pikachu and Diglett? Yet they accidentally left a Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina laying right in the path of the main storyline?
viciouskillersquirrel said:ALL the kids would have access to the legendaries, don't forget. A legendary is its own counter. A kid's typical team in the RBY days was:
Charizard
Pikachu
Snorlax
Mewtwo
Zapdos/Moltres
Alakazam/Gengar
EVERY kid had Mewtwo on their team.
Word. I used to dread a psybeam and psychic coming off those things. Come FRLG, I bred an elemental-punching Alakazam, but it just wasn't the same. The physical/special split in DP completely nerfed that moveset though.bernardobri said:Using Alakazam was the shit back on the days.
IcedTea said:Dark isn't weak to ground. He does take double from Earthquake, but he has no 4x weaknesses and ground is his only 2x weakness.
DSi + Pokemon + Facebook = ???cms382 said:I wonder if Nintendo has considered a Facebook Pokémon game.
It would be the biggest thing ever.
or maybeShiggie said:OMG. Maybe this guy evolves because of hating the trainer. I mean, we have pokemon that evolve out of happiness right?
OMG did he catch himself?!?!Surgeon Rocket said:or maybe
just maybe
he is the trainer
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oh my god it just keeps getting more complexShiggie said:OMG did he catch himself?!?!