Pokemon sequel is under development for DS

I posted this in the 3DS thread, but it deserves to be here, too.

Pretty much confirmed that the 3DS is coming THIS YEAR in Japan and that Pokemon will be a launch title. I mean, would Nintendo really send a new generation of Pokemon out on a system that is being replaced in MONTHS with the replacement already announced?
 
perfectchaos007 said:
The big question I want answered is if it will be DSi exclusive. God I hope not. No GBA slot would mean transferring over pokemon from GBA games would be MORE painful.
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If its exclusive to any single DS, it'll be the 3DS. Can't see them doing it DSi exclusive, that would rule out the first two thirds of the DS audience.
 
eggandI said:
3D (in both ways) Pokemon. So, finally, a real Pokemon RPG in 3D?
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Just imagine the possibilities. Seeing your Pokemon in 3D and getting a REAL sense of scope. Plus, they did say/hint that these new Pokemon games will be really different, so I could definitely see a 3D battlefield and everything where your Pokemon can move around.
 
I always thought it was weird to release Gen V on the same system Gen IV was on and the bump to 3D is definitely something that would warrant a new Generation.

Saying that though, I wonder how long Game Freak have been working on this because if this game is 3D then they can't just have static Pokemon with move effects any more, they would have to animate all 493 Pokemon.
 
OMG Aero said:
I always thought it was weird to release Gen V on the same system Gen IV was on and the bump to 3D is definitely something that would warrant a new Generation.

Saying that though, I wonder how long Game Freak have been working on this because if this game is 3D then they can't just have static Pokemon with move effects any more, they would have to animate all 493 Pokemon.
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Not only that, but they'd have to do it in a year, and they'd have to do it to 600 Pokemon.

The biggest problem I have with believing it will be on the launch of the 3DS is the launch date. Way too soon.
 
upandaway said:
Not only that, but they'd have to do it in a year, and they'd have to do it to 600 Pokemon.

The biggest problem I have with believing it will be on the launch of the 3DS is the launch date. Way too soon.
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Unless...


Unless...

we can always dream that they've been working on these for years and that all the money being poured into the franchise has actually been going toward something that we wouldn't have seen until around now?


lol yeah right though.
 
upandaway said:
Not only that, but they'd have to do it in a year, and they'd have to do it to 600 Pokemon.

The biggest problem I have with believing it will be on the launch of the 3DS is the launch date. Way too soon.
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Way too soon ? At GDC developers said that there software will be ready to ship t the end of 2010.
 
Kyzer said:
Unless...


Unless...

we can always dream that they've been working on these for years and that all the money being poured into the franchise has actually been going toward something that we wouldn't have seen until around now?


lol yeah right though.
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It's been oft-rumored that Game Freaks is one of the developers that has had 3DS technology for a while, and seeing as they run one of Nintendo's biggest franchises, it would not be surprising.
 
cw_sasuke said:
Way too soon ? At GDC developers said that there software will be ready to ship t the end of 2010.
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Yep, this enforces what I said. The fact it's ready throws doubt on whether it will be on the 3DS or not.
 
upandaway said:
Not only that, but they'd have to do it in a year, and they'd have to do it to 600 Pokemon.

The biggest problem I have with believing it will be on the launch of the 3DS is the launch date. Way too soon.
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Unless they've just been downporting the models from Pokémon Battle Revolution or some shit like that.
 
upandaway said:
Yep, this enforces what I said. The fact it's ready throws doubt on whether it will be on the 3DS or not.
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What are you going on about? This new Pokemon game is releasing this fall/winter. The 3DS is possibly releasing this winter for at least one territory. It lines up rather well as it seems.
 
grandjedi6 said:
What are you going on about? This new Pokemon game is releasing this fall/winter. The 3DS is possibly releasing this winter for at least one territory. It lines up rather well as it seems.
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You guys are missing what I'm talking about. I mean the amount of time GameFreak needs to make the game with the technology.

If it's for the 3DS, that's a hell of a lot more work for the same time frame as if it were for the DS.

I said that as being the only reason why I'm not 100% believing the story. It's not straight up proof it won't happen.
 
upandaway said:
You guys are missing what I'm talking about. I mean the amount of time GameFreak needs to make the game with the technology.

If it's for the 3DS, that's a hell of a lot more work for the same time frame as if it were for the DS
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So? They could have been working on this game anywhere from the last 4 years to now. We don't know when they began development on it, nor do we know much additional time it takes to develop the game for 3d (they could have been using a gamecube-like kit due to the similar architect for all we know).
 
upandaway said:
You guys are missing what I'm talking about. I mean the amount of time GameFreak needs to make the game with the technology.

If it's for the 3DS, that's a hell of a lot more work for the same time frame as if it were for the DS.

I said that as being the only reason why I'm not 100% believing the story. It's not straight up proof it won't happen.
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what length of time? If its gamecube level 3D, that'd be fairly straightforward to develop for. Not sure the 'real 3D' adds much, you just need proper 3D polygons and then there might be some depth tuning possible.
 
What are the odds of the 3DS only being on par with the DSi in terms of power and not much more than that?

I see them doing DS + 3DS or just DS, but not 3DS exclusive, if only because of the massive monies.
 
Kyzer said:
What are the odds of the 3DS only being on par with the DSi in terms of power and not much more than that?

I see them doing DS + 3DS or just DS, but not 3DS exclusive, if only because of the massive monies.
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Well it's gonna be able to play DS games anyway, so I seriously don't see it as a 3DS exclusive.

Also wont this kinda steal the DS's thunder? The DS is still going strong?
 
grandjedi6 said:
So? They could have been working on this game anywhere from the last 4 years to now. We don't know when they began development on it, nor do we know much additional time it takes to develop the game for 3d (they could have been using a gamecube-like kit due to the similar architect for all we know).
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That seems so crazy to believe to though. I'd agree that they started working on Gen 5's Pokemon and gameplay ideas since the release of DPPt, but are you really confident they started working on the software so early knowing exactly on what hardware it's gonna be on?

If GameFreak had some history of releasing launch games, that would be easier to believe, but they're usually late by a year.
I guess since I'm talking about chances there's not much to discuss here, since I do agree it's a possibility. At worst, we'll know in a couple of days on the next CoroCoro.
 
Metroid Killer said:
Well it's gonna be able to play DS games anyway, so I seriously don't see it as a 3DS exclusive.

Also wont this kinda steal the DS's thunder? The DS is still going strong?
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I'm guessing this will be what the Game Boy Advance was to the Game Boy Color.
 
Kyzer said:
What are the odds of the 3DS only being on par with the DSi in terms of power and not much more than that?

I see them doing DS + 3DS or just DS, but not 3DS exclusive, if only because of the massive monies.
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GDC rumours say that the specs are on a GameCube level or so.
 
upandaway said:
Yep, this enforces what I said. The fact it's ready throws doubt on whether it will be on the 3DS or not.
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why the doubt? Think about it...

Nintendo probably discretely gave Game Freak the Dev kit last year.
I believe Game Freak has been taking in many college grads and developers for a while now, so i'm sure they got a pretty big team of developers, (freelance too) and whatnot, and I bet they got one of the biggest teams working on this new gen. Sure, it'll take some work, but I'm sure they can get things done by...November or December of this year.

Remember, it's only march.
 
I can see it now... battles similar graphically to Battle Revolution yet quicker in pacing like the handheld games, in 3D. All the while, out of battle gameplay keeps the 2D/3D view from D/P, HG/SS yet ups the graphics tenfold! (well maybe not tenfold... :lol )
 
I don't get how people often times assume that Nintendo only lets THEIR devs know about something when its late in the game of production or around the time we hear about it. It's just like with people thinking that Zelda Wii had M+ tacked on.

Rumor from not too long ago . . .
The rumoured DS2 development kits are in the hands of select developers in Japan - and include a motion-sensing function, CVG can reveal.

The biggest of the firms working with the device is The Pokemon Company, which CVG understands was the first business to be offered the dev kit.

A CVG insider at a third-party studio currently toying with DS2 said he was aware that "a handful" of other developers had been given the hardware on a trial basis.

However, Nintendo informed him that it was merely the first version of what will become the finished product. The platform holder is asking those trialling the hardware for feedback - but our man is certainly impressed.

"It's genuinely the best thing I think I've ever worked with," he said. "I can tell you that it's got a 'tilt' function that's not dissimilar to iPhone, but does a lot more. We know that The Pokemon Company are getting special attention with it."
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=235077

It makes fuck all sense for them to release the game on the DS/ or even just WITH DS support if their trying to release a new handheld this same year in Japan. It all lines up perfectly from what we are hearing (gonna release atleast in 1 area this year, going for at the most a March-April release WW. Pokemon would likely have that same timeline of being Japan only got this year and March-April WW)
 
That could be one of the big reasons that we've seen Zoroaku and Zoroa announced, and then nothing else from Gen V. They could be waiting to actually show the hardware before they show the screens.
 
hype hype hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyype

im pretty financially strapped for the foreseeable future, and the thought of dropping 200 bucks on a new system isn't all that appealing, but hey, pokemon in 3D just sounds fucking awesome

If it even is for N3DS. Which I'm sure it will be.

cmon corocoro!
 
it's not going to be a 3DS game. nintendo wouldn't allow revealing a game for a system that hasn't been fully revealed yet.

it'll be a DS title, but when played on the DS successor it'll most likely have extra 3DS exclusive content. ala the numerous games that are playable on the DS but utilize the DSi capabilities.
 
It certainly seems like gen 5 could be a a 3DS launch title. It would mean an enormous boost in initial sales and I can't imagine why Nintendo would release them on an "old" console.

Or, maybe they'll pull a G/S/C. G/S for GB, C for GBC. Of course in this case, GB=DS and GBC=3DS.
 
Galactic Quail said:
why the doubt? Think about it...

Nintendo probably discretely gave Game Freak the Dev kit last year.
I believe Game Freak has been taking in many college grads and developers for a while now, so i'm sure they got a pretty big team of developers, (freelance too) and whatnot, and I bet they got one of the biggest teams working on this new gen. Sure, it'll take some work, but I'm sure they can get things done by...November or December of this year.

Remember, it's only march.
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Remember, last year they asked for people who had experience in 3D modeling.

Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver came out in Japan just a few months after it was revealed...you think they made it in just a few months? No. Nintendo doesn't reveal games to us until they've been well into production.

I'm placing bets on this being for 3DS.
 
Regulus Tera said:
I'm guessing this will be what the Game Boy Advance was to the Game Boy Color.
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Yeah, I don't think anyone outside of Nintendo really knows how it's going to go. :lol

First speculation was: DSi = GBC-like upgrade
Then somebody in the 3DS thread claims: DSi = GBA Micro all along
Now speculation that: 3dS = GBC-like upgrade
 
Little Green Yoda said:
Yeah, I don't think anyone outside of Nintendo really knows how it's going to go. :lol

First speculation was: DSi = GBC-like upgrade
Then somebody in the 3DS thread claims: DSi = GBA Micro all along
Now speculation that: 3dS = GBC-like upgrade
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DSi was always an alternative/improvement to the DS and never really a successor, and anybody who didn't see that coming has lols for brains.

This 3DS has waaaay too many hardware improvements to be just an alternative/improvement. It's got more powerful specs + 3D + accelerometers.
 
Yeah, I'm on that side of the gambling fence as well:

Pokemon Jade/Amber for the DS/DSi

Pokemon Opal for the 3DS, slightly upgraded.
 
it'll make the sprites pop out and then there'll be like one town or area or whatever where there's a bunch of 3d stuff that pops out before you can get to the legendary

that's it
 
Mr.Wuggles said:
it's not going to be a 3DS game. nintendo wouldn't allow revealing a game for a system that hasn't been fully revealed yet.

it'll be a DS title, but when played on the DS successor it'll most likely have extra 3DS exclusive content. ala the numerous games that are playable on the DS but utilize the DSi capabilities.
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But that's the thing, the game hasn't been revealed yet. Just announced, the only thing revealed so far was one single Pokemon.

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't reveal it exactly because it was a 3DS game, plus what better to push a system out of the gate than a Pokemon title?

Plus releasing Gen 5 pokemon for DS(i) anywhere near the 3DS launch just doesn't come off as a good move.

Though we'll have to wait for E3 and see.
 
dani_dc said:
But that's the thing, the game hasn't been revealed yet. Just announced, the only thing revealed so far was one single Pokemon.
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the game is set to be revealed in april.

3ds is getting formally revealed in june.

it's not going to be a 3ds exclusive game.
 
Mr.Wuggles said:
the game is set to be revealed in april.

3ds is getting formally revealed in june.

it's not going to be a 3ds exclusive game.
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"Revealed" could be as much as concept art or just revealing title names, like HGSS.

Regardless, 3DS is now officially announced so :p
 
Update Incoming:
Serebii said:
Generation V Game Reveal Dated

As we know, the new games are said to be revealled in the next issue of CoroCoro, due out on the 15th of this month. However, the first details about the Pokémon Sunday episode airing on April 11th state that they're going to reveal the games in a "shock announcement" in the episode. Normally, we get CoroCoro leaks before or around the 11th so it'll be curious to see which releases the news first. We'll keep you updated the second the news is announced so keep checking back.
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How to watch Pokemon Sunday: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2441175&postcount=116
 
They really need to make a radical change in the series, because as fun and addicting as the games are, the 2D barely animated sprites and attacks are really becoming old, and so does many things in the game.

I really would like them to take the 3D route (even if it's for combat only) as in the Colosseum games (with faster, or skippable combat animations), and re-use the character customization they introduced in Battle Revolution, but I don't know if the DS would be the good platform for this.
 
Oh gosh

A week from today will either blow us away, or be utterly disappointing.

If it's revealed that Gen 5 is a DS game with the Platinum/HGSS engine (or heck, just boring sprites with hardly any animations as usual) I will be soooooo sad.
 
Dogenzaka said:
Oh gosh

A week from today will either blow us away, or be utterly disappointing.

If it's revealed that Gen 5 is a DS game with the Platinum/HGSS engine (or heck, just boring sprites with hardly any animations as usual) I will be soooooo sad.
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You're going to be sad.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
You're going to be sad.
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I wouldn't rule out that it could be a 3DS game just yet. The big reveal could just show us the new land, some new pokemon, and info on how the game will be played. They don't have to show screens of the game. They could save showing screens for E3 in a couple months
 
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