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[iconmaster]

Let's see if these sales will be sustained...

Do you really think there's a chance of Pokémon not demolishing Holiday 2019? If it were off to a slow start, I might be on board.

I suppose everyone who intends to buy Pokémon for himself or his kids could have already picked it up before Christmas shopping begins, but I find it unlikely

 

[Codes 208]

Honest question, that thread was made just for some guys says "ahaha I win, u lose1!" or it was a genuine question?
Sounds lame to me.

The OP supposedly has a thing for bragging about nintendo so it definitely seems like a humble brag kind of thing.

i mean seriously you have a very divisive title and a mildly good star wars game vs one of the biggest titans of the last two decades.

 

[GamesAreFun]

Well done to Game Freak. Sometimes you need to ignore the hardcore fans to improve a series for mass market appeal.

 

[blackjon24]

So am I the only one that actually held off on this one...?

 

[NandN]

Guess the boycott really worked /s Seriously though, I do worry how the fanbase split will affect the Pokemon community. Will there be separate camps for new and old Pokemon games from now on?

 

[Werewolf Jones]

So am I the only one that actually held off on this one...?

No, a lot of people did but a lot more bought it twice like good little consumers. Game is perfectly playable but far beyond what I'd call "good"

 

[Codes 208]

No, a lot of people did but a lot more bought it twice like good little consumers. Game is perfectly playable but far beyond what I'd call "good"

So far im near the end game and i would personally call it good, just not the best (or top three, its nowhere near as amazing as gens 2, 3 and 4.)

but overall, ill take it over x/y, s/m and the lets go games.

 

[Psajdak]

Congratulations on success.

 

[Mihos]

I will admit to being part of the problem. I bought the dual pack and this game kind of sucks. I haven't opened 'shield' yet, so I may just try to recoup some losses

 

[Ascend]

The first Pokemon generation I did not buy. I was going to get a Switch + Sword, but, ultimately decided not to after the whole controversy. I learned my lesson after Mass Effect Andromeda.

 

[Halo is Back]

but i thought it sucked? lol there was no doubt it'd sell well. it's pokemon. this is the first Pokemon game i've not bought. i'm just not happy to support the low effort half assed copy & paste job that these game are.

everyone was shitting on this game but shock horror it is selling well. people buying the game just says to Game Freak/Nintendo that they are perfectly happy with those low quality game.

What you taking about? Every Pokémon game since gold/silver has been low effort. Nothing new here honestly

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Wooooow. At 60 bucks! Well done, Switch owners. That's how you support devs work. For a full price, not for 1$

 

[Zannegan]

Of course it's going to sell well. The universe is so much fun, the core gameplay so satisfying, and past games enjoyable that even a reasonable protest to make dent.

We'll see if the next one does quite so well, though, or if this starts the slow slide from sales phenomenon to average brand (and beyond).

 

[Ivellios]

Let's see if these sales will be sustained...

Of course it will.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

And this is why Gamefreak puts out low effort trash, people eat it up.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

6m ain't no lie.

We haven't even reached Black Friday lol

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

Trying to figure out if I should play this. Haven't completed a pokemanz since blue and the last one I even played was emerald on the DS.

I thought now they are on switch maybe it's time, but then there's these critiques of the game and I don't know what to think or how much they effect me. Like, people are saying they recycle models from the 3DS, but I didn't play the 3DS games so it's not really gonna scandalize me, I think. And I heard instead of all million pokemanz being carried over from your old games you only get like 150 pokemanz, but I don't have any of the old ones to carry over anyway, so I couldn't carry them across and I assume I wouldn't notice. I guess what I'm saying is, is this a bad bad pocket monster game or is it a good game where they cheaped out on stuff that only a cockfighting connoisseur would notice?

 

[Flintty]

I'm sure there are people who bought this that are misinformed or wasn't informed at all. Give it more time for people to be like wtf, where is this Pokemon?

I'm going to counter and say that the vast majority of the misinformed/uninformed are casuals/kids who just want to play Pokemon for what it is and by the very nature of being casual, don't know what they're missing. This game isn't just for 90s kids.

 

[Mattyp]

Nintendos newest largest youngest group of fan boys are the worst who would of known.



The game looks like absolute shit and thee fact they can't invest to turn this into a AAA title is even more bullshit because people will lap it up regardless.

 

[Ascend]

Trying to figure out if I should play this. Haven't completed a pokemanz since blue and the last one I even played was emerald on the DS.

I thought now they are on switch maybe it's time, but then there's these critiques of the game and I don't know what to think or how much they effect me. Like, people are saying they recycle models from the 3DS, but I didn't play the 3DS games so it's not really gonna scandalize me, I think. And I heard instead of all million pokemanz being carried over from your old games you only get like 150 pokemanz, but I don't have any of the old ones to carry over anyway, so I couldn't carry them across and I assume I wouldn't notice. I guess what I'm saying is, is this a bad bad pocket monster game or is it a good game where they cheaped out on stuff that only a cockfighting connoisseur would notice?

Play Pokemon Black/White instead.

 

[Reave]

All the whimpering and whining about the game was getting on my nerves. Might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I've seen way worse.

 

[Saber]

Play Pokemon Black/White instead.

Totally.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

Trying to figure out if I should play this. Haven't completed a pokemanz since blue and the last one I even played was emerald on the DS.

I thought now they are on switch maybe it's time, but then there's these critiques of the game and I don't know what to think or how much they effect me. Like, people are saying they recycle models from the 3DS, but I didn't play the 3DS games so it's not really gonna scandalize me, I think. And I heard instead of all million pokemanz being carried over from your old games you only get like 150 pokemanz, but I don't have any of the old ones to carry over anyway, so I couldn't carry them across and I assume I wouldn't notice. I guess what I'm saying is, is this a bad bad pocket monster game or is it a good game where they cheaped out on stuff that only a cockfighting connoisseur would notice?

I called it.

Zoomers don't give a shit about your missing old-ass Pokemon.

But but but....the Pokedex! They deleted the Pokemons!

I don't really care about the national dex stuff, game is fun and still has the charm so I'm happy. Lot of neat additions, too.

A lot of people still seem to think the complaints were all about Dexit, but most don't care about that. What people want is better visuals and better animations. The missing Pokemon are a small part of the big picture. Game Freak used the missing Pokemon as an excuse for making better graphics and animations which would be Great! ...if they actually did that, But they didn't.

Its pretty clear this game is comparable to what we were getting on 3DS and yet they are cutting Pokemon and raising the price 50%. So most people just get caught up thinking people are complaining because of some missing Pokemon when it's really just that we see we're getting the short end of the stick!

That being said it was always undoubtedly going to sell well because at the core, going on a Pokemon adventure is fun. I Just wish some could imagine how much better it could be.

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

I will admit to being part of the problem. I bought the dual pack and this game kind of sucks. I haven't opened 'shield' yet, so I may just try to recoup some losses

You know they're both the same game right

 

[Ryu Kaiba]

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

Play Pokemon Black/White instead.

DS huh? None of the 3DS ones were really good?

 

[Saber]

DS huh? None of the 3DS ones were really good?

Too much handholding, almost non existant content and mediocre story. Ain't losing much going there, buddy. They follow the same patern of SwSh with "its a new gen with new mons".

 

[Dr. Claus]

DS huh? None of the 3DS ones were really good?

They are all good games. They are pokemon, but in 3D with some unique features like any pokemon title. Try them out for yourself.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

Okay thanks, got it. I want to go with the older titles. I'm gonna be the very best, like no one ever was.

The very best 30yo boomer, I mean

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

If you can ignore this

1. Broken exp system not optional
2. Linear and smallest region in the franchise
3. 3 major cities, less than any other game
4. One town is literally a pokémon center and a gym
5. 10 routes, less than any other game
6. Routes are literally hallways
7. Wild area is an empty laggy multiplayer lobby
8. No exploration at all
9. No dungeons
10. No day/night cycle until postgame
11. No GTS
12. Pay multiplayer and pay Home or they'll delete your old pokémon
13. Only 1 optional legendary hunt, less than any other game
14. 2 legendaries per game, less than any other game
15. Mediocre story
16. No elite 4, and replacements heal you between fights
17. Postgame as short as XY
18. Most generic battle tower in the franchise
19. Cut a lot of moves
20. Cut over half of the dex "to improve" visuals
21. Graphics barely improved
22. Same models
23. Same animations except a few specific attacks
24. Worst pokémon designs in the franchise
25. Kanto pandering in form of regional forms
26. Kanto pandering in form of new shitty exclusive and temporal mechanic
27. Buggy game can crash other devices in the wireless network

...it is a great game!

6 million units sold!

Things will never get better because people will buy anything with the name Pokemon on it!

BIGGEST FRANCHISE IN THE WORLD WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

[Lionel Richie]

If you can ignore this

Man I've seen this pasta being posted a trillion times on /v/ and each time you can feel the salt getting saltier. Just let it go, it's like COD was a few years back. You could point a LOT of flaws in it and it did not matter.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

COD

CoD is a well done yearly title. Please do not compare it to Pokemon.

 

[Bodatan]

CoD is a well done yearly title. Please do not compare it to Pokemon.

Pokemon is a well done yearly title. Please do not compare it to COD.

 

[IKSTUGA]

Really enjoying the salt. Game is awesome BTW, I've already clocked in like 45 hours.

 

[Saruhashi]

Guess the boycott really worked /s Seriously though, I do worry how the fanbase split will affect the Pokemon community. Will there be separate camps for new and old Pokemon games from now on?

I think you probably won't see the true impact of all this until the next gen.

If they are managing to sell this many copies despite the controversy then there's probably a few factors.

People who don't know.
People who don't care.
People who do know but Game Freak has enough good will with them that they'll try it anyway.
People who know and care but they still like Pokemon so they buy the game and also complain.

Currently there is probably a relatively small faction who are just not buying the game because of the various issues.
For all their screeching online they don't seem to be having much influence on anybody else and most mainstream publicity has been positive.

However, now that millions of people have the game they will be able to decide for themselves if it's any good, if it's crap, whatever.

So if enough people are playing it and thinking "oh my god this is garbage" then there's a good chance they will not buy the next one.
Or at least they will do some research before buying the next one.

Presumably this will end up being the best selling Switch title so far but Let's Go didn't do as well so obviously there is something that is causing people to say I didn't get Let's Go but I will get this one.

I seem to remember that Let's Go was met with a bit of outrage also because it just wasn't what people wanted but I'd guess there are a lot of people out there who played Let's Go, liked it, and as a direct result decided to buy the new one.

What I'd love to know is how many of these sales are Pokemon first timers or people who had Let's Go as their first one.

 

[TLZ]

It does, but as you can say, Pokemon/Nintendo fans will buy whatever low-quality Pokemon-branded thing they're fed. They're the very definition of brand victims.

People are literally going out there to buy BOTH Sword and Shield. That's paying twice as much for two copies of the same game. And yes. That's two copies of the same game. Period.

It's shameful, but it is what it is.

I don't know how they get away with it every time. Companies are getting slaughtered for the slightest things, imagine if they released two copies of the same game on release? Imagine if FIFA did that, Ronaldo on one and Messi on the other. Reason? For collection purposes. Lol the massacre that would ensue.

But hey, their fans eat it up. Every time. So why would Game Freak stop?

 

[Saruhashi]

I don't know how they get away with it every time. Companies are getting slaughtered for the slightest things, imagine if they released two copies of the same game on release? Imagine if FIFA did that, Ronaldo on one and Messi on the other. Reason? For collection purposes. Lol the massacre that would ensue.

But hey, their fans eat it up. Every time. So why would Game Freak stop?

 

[Saber]

I don't know how they get away with it every time. Companies are getting slaughtered for the slightest things, imagine if they released two copies of the same game on release? Imagine if FIFA did that, Ronaldo on one and Messi on the other. Reason? For collection purposes. Lol the massacre that would ensue.

But hey, their fans eat it up. Every time. So why would Game Freak stop?

Cuz its fUn!1

Not sure how this explain the whole situation, but its the best answer you will get.

 

[Virex]

but i thought it sucked? lol there was no doubt it'd sell well. it's pokemon. this is the first Pokemon game i've not bought. i'm just not happy to support the low effort half assed copy & paste job that these game are.

everyone was shitting on this game but shock horror it is selling well. people buying the game just says to Game Freak/Nintendo that they are perfectly happy with those low quality game.

It could literally be the worst game ever made. And a pokemon game will still sell millions. That's why GameFreak doesn't give a shit to put in a little effort. It's guaranteed to sell no matter how shit it is.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

How much did Moon sell in its first week
Or previous titles

 

[Lionel Richie]

CoD is a well done yearly title. Please do not compare it to Pokemon.

COD is an overly repetitive 4 hour campaign, when there is one, with increasingly unsatisfying multiplayer options.

 

[Shifty]

It prints money.

 

[Bodatan]

I don't know how they get away with it every time. Companies are getting slaughtered for the slightest things, imagine if they released two copies of the same game on release? Imagine if FIFA did that, Ronaldo on one and Messi on the other. Reason? For collection purposes. Lol the massacre that would ensue.

But hey, their fans eat it up. Every time. So why would Game Freak stop?

They already did that with edition scam which is worse than Pokemon combined with predatory FUT micro transaction.

Another Example.

 

[rubenburgt]

Despite its flaws and Hop, do I consider it a legit fun game to play.

But let's be real here. It's a main pokémon game. Those are always fast selling games.

 

[iconmaster]

I'm hopeful that Game Freak will work out the kinks for their next Switch release. I tend to believe the theory that Sword/Shield started as a 3DS game. I think Let's Go actually looks quite slick.

 

[Afro Republican]

Pokemon is the Japanese COD, they could make a new Pokemon game with early Jaguar graphics and it would still sell. People who buy those games aren't exactly thinking logically. They are either kids, Parents that are impulse buyers when a sale occurs, or late teens or grown men who really believe there's something in depth there and refuse to grow up and let the franchise go.

As they spend 7 years growing an egg sidways, while turning off their system 7 times a day for 3 months so the Magicking Egg becomes a Mew allowing it to learn solar beam and double team in slots 2 and 4 allowing you to have victory at EVO.

Oh Pokemon isn't at Evo? Some of the rapid fans would make you think otherwise. lol.

 

[Inanilmaz]

RIP my dreams.. it was good to know you

The apocalypse is near

 

[Tiamat2san]

but i thought it sucked? lol there was no doubt it'd sell well. it's pokemon. this is the first Pokemon game i've not bought. i'm just not happy to support the low effort half assed copy & paste job that these game are.

everyone was shitting on this game but shock horror it is selling well. people buying the game just says to Game Freak/Nintendo that they are perfectly happy with those low quality game.

most sales are people that Are unaware of the game freak gate and/or doesn't care (like my wife).
Here on forums we are amongst passionate gamers.
We are not the mass market like Twitter is not the real world.

video games is just another media to consume for most people.

 

[TLZ]

They already did that with edition scam which is worse than Pokemon combined with predatory FUT micro transaction.

Another Example.

So in one game Hazard isn't in Real and another Van Dyke isn't in Liverpool? They're all available in all games. That's just a poster. And FUT is lootcrap.

 

[jts]

So in one game Hazard isn't in Real and another Van Dyke isn't in Liverpool? They're all available in all games. That's just a poster. And FUT is lootcrap.

And in Pokémon you can trade and get them all with no loot shit. So, yeah. What EA does is much, much worse.