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Pokkén Tournament |OT| King of Iron Tail Tournament

BiggNife

Member
Is Pikachu Libre's down+A special (the spin into the Stone Cold Stunner) actually a counter or does it just have super armor? I can't tell.
 
I just went by GameStop and got a Charizard amiibo and the double sided Pokken pre-order poster. I didn't even buy the game there. Apparently I'm the only one who has gotten the poster, since the dude had to open the package to get me one.

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I'll be putting it up Charizard side of course.

Damn that's nice

last one

ggs dood

I hate Braxiens. Nothing but the lamest of gamest.

Is Pikachu Libre's down+A special (the spin into the Stone Cold Stunner) actually a counter or does it just have super armor? I can't tell.

It has Super Armour on start up. It's punishable on block but man it's such a scrubtard move. If you get hit, it's just a few insane damage attack. I've been looking into counters and the CPU found counters against it.

All I know is that it has armour on start up but you can attack it during the animation, however you have to be in the animation as it's active. It's a stupid move. All I can say is block is and either punish with grab OR go for light attack since whatever opponent you're playing against will mash anything after.
 
lol i tried going in whenever i could but my braxiens normals are badddddd :/ trying to get in any sort of quick strikes just had me eating combos left and right :/ sorry it was so lame :/
I've played countless Braxiens online which all do the same:
Field mode: Run left right while firing projectiles + phase shift move
Duel Mode: Spam Hadouken

Thing is, Braxien is open to air attack and fast rush down. Not to mention she has to respect a lot of the mixup game.
I'm sure you can actually leap the projectiles in Duel Mode but you have to be close so they don't spread out and I have to be at the height of my jump and then air dash.

Random Suicune player, your super may not be punisheable on shield, but the laser you inmediatly threw is.
Random Suicune decided to do constant beams and air beam. Lost a match and then we came back to fight again. It's super unsafe.
1 thing to note is has a big startup so you can run it and Suicune lands with his back to you. Go in for a big punish.

*Pikachu spams thunder*

hm





ok

Pikachu telegraphs where his attack will land so you can dash under it and towards the opponent.
 

killroy87

Member
Just picked this up, it's really good!

Out of curiosity, what resolution does it run at? I thought there was something wrong with the HDMI connection on my TV, cuz the resolution looks looooooow. Not a deal breaker, but it definitely stands out.
 
I've played countless Braxiens online which all do the same:
Field mode: Run left right while firing projectiles + phase shift move
Duel Mode: Spam Hadouken

Thing is, Braxien is open to air attack and fast rush down. Not to mention she has to respect a lot of the mixup game.
I'm sure you can actually leap the projectiles in Duel Mode but you have to be close so they don't spread out and I have to be at the height of my jump and then air dash.


Random Suicune decided to do constant beams and air beam. Lost a match and then we came back to fight again. It's super unsafe.
1 thing to note is has a big startup so you can run it and Suicune lands with his back to you. Go in for a big punish.



Pikachu telegraphs where his attack will land so you can dash under it and towards the opponent.

yeah i noticed for the fire blast

and yeah braxien in field mode really doesnt have much outside of yyyy projectile spam her homing attack is pretty bad honestly :/ ive been trying to do other things in field mode outside of it but it is one of her best if not only tool she has lol im starting to warm up to air dash into down strong which seems like a pretty good tool

i was thinking i could probably anti air the kick but i kept forgetting my buttons a lot and crumpled under a lot of the pressure lol
 
But everyone expects you to spam projectiles, so they never expect the homing attack. Never.

true true but i never found as chance in getting in even if i circle around and trying to get in lol most of the time they just shield regardless i only like the projectiles because i just find i can get people off me and gives me a lot of breathing room to see what they might do if i luck out and get the duel phase then i try to space with fire blast and try to open up with her basic combos im still not used to the whole rps mechanic and i get blown up a lot with counters and grabs
 

dity

Member
true true but i never found as chance in getting in even if i circle around and trying to get in lol most of the time they just shield regardless i only like the projectiles because i just find i can get people off me and gives me a lot of breathing room to see what they might do if i luck out and get the duel phase then i try to space with fire blast and try to open up with her basic combos im still not used to the whole rps mechanic and i get blown up a lot with counters and grabs

Well, I will admit I can spam my own projectiles in field phase too. I try to change it up every so often though. Surprisingly, you can also jump and fire Brax's Y button projectiles and that seems to get people off guard.

Going into burst mode and opting for homing attacks rather than using a burst attack right away seems to work pretty well. It seems to lead most into getting drawn into her burst attack, especially since her homing attack will combo into a field change.
 

Zipzo

Banned
I kinda like Braixen but I'm pretty sure the character is due for that "For Glory" stigma of being "lame to play".

I mean, play-to-win and all, but even playing as a Braixen you just feel lame, I feel like I'm not getting a visceral fighting experience.
 

Kinsei

Banned
I finally played against a Braixen online and man I do not know how to deal with it. Fire blast is so big in duel mode that I find it incredibly hard to get in. When I did they always managed to predict what I was going to do. When I went for a grab I got a fire blast to the face, when I went for a counter I got grabbed, when I went for a regular attack I got countered. To make things worse I ended up facing three in a row.

I also had my first laggy match. I couldn't do anything other than sit in a corner and counter since my button presses were so delayed. Needless to say that didn't do anything against a Machamp haha.

In brighter news I made it to D rank online!
 

Anteo

Member
I have no idea how to deal with either mewtwo, as I dont have them unlocked to study their moves.

On the other hand, getting close and doing empty jump into grab is surprisingly effective in this game. must be the players
 

WarAdept

Member
Man I've done nearly 100 battles online and I've only encountered one other Sceptile online. It was an interesting experience for sure as neither wanted to go near each others traps so it ended up with time-outs both times.
 

Kinsei

Banned
I have no idea how to deal with either mewtwo, as I dont have them unlocked to study their moves.

On the other hand, getting close and doing empty jump into grab is surprisingly effective in this game. must be the players

Me either. I feel like all of my Mewtwo wins are either because I get lucky or the players are really bad.

I've noticed that too. Maybe once a few more people do that they'll realize that not everyone that jumps is about to do an aerial attack.
 
I kinda like Braixen but I'm pretty sure the character is due for that "For Glory" stigma of being "lame to play".

I mean, play-to-win and all, but even playing as a Braixen you just feel lame, I feel like I'm not getting a visceral fighting experience.

yeah thats why ive been trying to be a bit more honest in duel phase and tried for more footsies and just overall normals i find the matches to be more exciting even though a lot of the times her buttons are pretty lacking in power

but i admit i do spam fire blast a lot whenever i panic or i just want people to stop rushing me down

Well, I will admit I can spam my own projectiles in field phase too. I try to change it up every so often though. Surprisingly, you can also jump and fire Brax's Y button projectiles and that seems to get people off guard.

Going into burst mode and opting for homing attacks rather than using a burst attack right away seems to work pretty well. It seems to lead most into getting drawn into her burst attack, especially since her homing attack will combo into a field change.

yeah i knew about the jumping ys but aside from a few people a lot of people tend to just run (ive been trying to run towards or in the same direction as to catch them off guard and it seems to work here and there)

i really like fire blast i find its her best set up tool for sunny day lol (i just kinda wish sunny day enchanced more than just her broom dash move in terms of normals (i think thats a normal) unless im missing something
 

dity

Member
I kinda like Braixen but I'm pretty sure the character is due for that "For Glory" stigma of being "lame to play".

I mean, play-to-win and all, but even playing as a Braixen you just feel lame, I feel like I'm not getting a visceral fighting experience.
I don't share your sentiments. lol.

Me either. I feel like all of my Mewtwo wins are either because I get lucky or the players are really bad.

I've noticed that too. Maybe once a few more people do that they'll realize that not everyone that jumps is about to do an aerial attack.

Mewtwo is just so damn powerful. Once he gets into a combo you're basically almost dead. Pinned against the wall getting owned.
 
Man I've done nearly 100 battles online and I've only encountered one other Sceptile online. It was an interesting experience for sure as neither wanted to go near each others traps so it ended up with time-outs both times.

I've encountered Sceptile quite a lot myself (possibly my most faced opponent thus far) and its the bane of my life.

It's interesting how varied the character usage spreads are here from people's online experience, I think I've faced everyone but Machamp so far.
And having recently given Machamp a proper shake I'm kinda glad, dude hits like a runaway freight train.
 

Violet_0

Banned
surprised that Chandelure is a power pokemon, it looked like a projectile spammer in the trailers

I'll probably wait for a while until the price goes down a bit before I pick this up
 

WarAdept

Member
I've encountered Sceptile quite a lot myself (possibly my most faced opponent thus far) and its the bane of my life.

It's interesting how varied the character usage spreads are here from people's online experience, I think I've faced everyone but Machamp so far.
And having recently given Machamp a proper shake I'm kinda glad, dude hits like a runaway freight train.

I'm not too scared of Machamp, but I love that if you make one mistake against him, there goes half your life. Super tense battle.
 

WarAdept

Member
surprised that Chandelure is a power pokemon, it looked like a projectile spammer in the trailers

I'll probably wait for a while until the price goes down a bit before I pick this up

It is a projectile spammer but the fact that it's power means it does so much damage. Super obnoxious to fight as both its melee and ranged attacks are a pain to get through.
 

Shouta

Member
Those wireless ones that connect to wiimotes work, but not the ones with GC connectors and cables.

Ah I think I picked up the former ones. The ones that were released before the GC was reprinted. That has to hook up to a wiimote right? Or can you hook it directly into the Wii U?

It was pretty cheap but I'm wondering how I'd use it at Evo if it requires a wiimote, lol.
 

Violet_0

Banned
It is a projectile spammer but the fact that it's power means it does so much damage. Super obnoxious to fight as both its melee and ranged attacks are a pain to get through.

neat, that sounds exactly like my kind of pokemon. I suppose the downside is that it's slow?
 
Do the GC pads for Wii U work? Or are they just GC pads repackaged
They are pads that you have plug into the Wii controller. So they are wireless.
I kinda like Braixen but I'm pretty sure the character is due for that "For Glory" stigma of being "lame to play".

I mean, play-to-win and all, but even playing as a Braixen you just feel lame, I feel like I'm not getting a visceral fighting experience.
Played plenty of Braxiens online everyone has done the Run left/right and span projectiles. I know it's only day 2 but I don't see the character getting much deeper. Though her projectiles are some of the best.
 

Shouta

Member
They are pads that you have plug into the Wii controller. So they are wireless.

Played plenty of Braxiens online everyone has done the Run left/right and span projectiles. I know it's only day 2 but I don't see the character getting much deeper. Though her projectiles are some of the best.

Oof. The Pro Pads are wired? Maybe I'll just order the Hori or Pro pad from Amazon then and return this one I got from Gamestop. It was only 20 bucks too. Shame D=
 

dity

Member
It is a projectile spammer but the fact that it's power means it does so much damage. Super obnoxious to fight as both its melee and ranged attacks are a pain to get through.

That beam.

Oof. The Pro Pads are wired? Maybe I'll just order the Hori or Pro pad from Amazon then and return this one I got from Gamestop. It was only 20 bucks too. Shame D=

The third party GC pads usually work as Wii Pro controllers, so they plug into a Wii controller to be wireless unlike the Wii U Pro controller which is just fully wireless. It all doesn't matter anyway because I'm fairly certain you HAVE to use the Gamepad if you're playing as player 1 anyway.
 

Shouta

Member
That beam.



The third party GC pads usually work as Wii Pro controllers, so they plug into a Wii controller to be wireless unlike the Wii U Pro controller which is just fully wireless. It all doesn't matter anyway because I'm fairly certain you HAVE to use the Gamepad if you're playing as player 1 anyway.

So do you plug the Hori ones into the Wii U or the gamepads?
 

Muku

Member
Not played online much as I was trying to get to grips with the game before I jumped in(First fighting game I'm even bothering with online in).

However, Shadow Mewtwo weirdly enough.

I haven't even unlocked him yet!



You can only select him in local/single play modes. To play him in League and Online, you need to unlock him through the League.

Alright, thank you. Seems like they overhyped him a bit just for him to be a bit useless. Didn't plan on maining him, but wanted to fiddle with him a bit through League. Guess first run wasn't as exciting as it could have been.
 
I'm bummed. My Wii U had no connection issues the night the game was out. Never lagged in any matches. Since Friday night I've been getting a lot of laggy matches, and I'm not sure why.

I've got a LAN adapter arriving tomorrow, so hopefully it'll fix it.

I just tested Smash on 3DS and had zero issues. :\
 
Ah I think I picked up the former ones. The ones that were released before the GC was reprinted. That has to hook up to a wiimote right? Or can you hook it directly into the Wii U?

It was pretty cheap but I'm wondering how I'd use it at Evo if it requires a wiimote, lol.

Yeah, the 3rd party GC controller lookalikes connect to wiimotes only. Pokken doesn't support the GC controller adapter that came with Smash Bros, so you can't use real GC controllers. The only wired controller that works is the Hori Pokken controller.
 

Shouta

Member
Yeah, the 3rd party GC controller lookalikes connect to wiimotes only. Pokken doesn't support the GC controller adapter that came with Smash Bros, so you can't use real GC controllers. The only wired controller that works is the Hori Pokken controller.

Ah, welp. Time to order the Hori Controller then.
 

Revven

Member
how do you do critical hits?

Critical Hits are based on if you hit someone as they are attacking or about to attack. So, if they whiff something and the move is still out and you hit them, that's a Critical Hit. Or, if you hit them just as the move they were starting to use. They're Counter Hits like in other fighting games, it's just renamed to be a nice little fanservice thing.
 
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