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Pokkén Tournament |OT| King of Iron Tail Tournament

KeigoNiwa

Member
I'm looking at all these Machamp pro tips, and I'm just like, please help me with Sceptile :(

I really want to be good with him, but I don't think he fits my play style sadly
 
Okay, so I have to fight 2 rounds vs a shadow mewtwo that has 3k hp and can read my inputs and react on frame 1? cool
The last round was: Okay I activate synergy, now I'll try... *nope, have a burst on frame one of your jab*
Shadow Mewtwo sucks, do the Spamdelure method
and still have a 50% chance of losing to his input reads
 
does anyone else find the way Nia says BLACK mewtwo really weird?

like every time she's like

oh no, it's a BLACK mewtwo!

that BLACK pokemon sure is scary!
 

Teknoman

Member
Set the VA to Japanese, so that shouldn't be a thing.

EDIT: Too bad your character is stuck to a younger type unlike PKMN Battle Revolution. I would've wanted facial hair like the first league leader.


Sceptile, using traps and projectiles even in duel mode is key imo. That vine grapple move has helped me out more than anything. Also his ninja counter.

Stats carry over into online, or are they normalized?
 
Stats carry over into online, or are they normalized?

They carry apparently.

Don't forget that Leaf Blade has counter properties, which is super useful.

Also is Machamp's air drop actually a counter or is it for a brief moment? Seems I can get snuffed out of it midair with regular attacks even though he flashes blue.
 

bman94

Member
does anyone else find the way Nia says BLACK mewtwo really weird?

like every time she's like

oh no, it's a BLACK mewtwo!

that BLACK pokemon sure is scary!

This has become a running joke with my friend. It makes it more funny cause us (as well as my avatar in game) are african american so we make the most racist jokes based off this.
 

jholmes

Member
MACHAMP PROTIPS:

I'm currently C4 with about 150 Machamp ranked games played at a 70% winrate. (But maybe that means nothing right now?)

Anyways lets get to the tips.

TIP 1: Machamps backhand slash DELETES ENEMY PROJECTILES. YES THIS EVEN MEANS ALMOST ALL OF SHADOW MEWTWOS PROJECTILES EVEN THE BIG ORANGE BEAM (This single handedly makes this matchup even, get in twice and you win.) . The only character this does not apply to is Chandelure and characters with huge charged DBZ style beams. (The backhand slash input is away from your opponent + A)

TIP 2: Air grabs are your friend. A well timed air grab on your opponents wakeup will beat a super.Air grabs on wakeup in general make your ground slam that much better. I usually only reccomend air grabs in 2D mode. In 3d mode they are much much harder to setup.

TIP 3: In 2D mode Y Y is cancelable which is great because Machamp has forward + A, a massive amount of people fall for this and if they don't just press the third Y of the combo next time you do it and they will learn to respect it.

Let me know if you guys liked these Machamp tips. GL dudes.

Maybe I'll try some of this. I was obliterating single-player as Machamp but I went online as a lark and went something like 3-12, I actually haven't played the game since it was so frustrating. I feel like I played really good matches too but people will just projectile spam, it didn't make me want to get better, it made me want to stop playing.
 
Man, I gotta say... I wasn't sure about Sceptile at first, but damn, it's really good. So many options and the setups with bullet seed and leech seed are amazing especially in duel phase. So many traps.
 

RomanceDawn

Member
Those Machamp tips are great! Anyone got anything for Garchomp and Blazekin?

So if I feel like I'm going to get grabbed, is it the weaker attack (X?) which generally has the faster frames?
 
Any high level blazekin play? Really enjoying him but want to see some good footage before I venture online. Finally done griding that chroma league and have both mewtwos and all supports unlocked.
 
True, the VA in general is a mess. They seriously could've gotten fans who would do it for free just to be in a Pokemon game and do a better job.

I am amazed the game shipped with this level of voice acting. I know the term "unacceptable" is overused to the point of meaninglessness in gaming circles, but I genuinely didn't expect Nintendo to consider such terrible voice acting to be acceptable for a flagship franchise.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I am amazed the game shipped with this level of voice acting. I know the term "unacceptable" is overused to the point of meaninglessness in gaming circles, but I genuinely didn't expect Nintendo to consider such terrible voice acting to be acceptable for a flagship franchise.
True, the VA in general is a mess. They seriously could've gotten fans who would do it for free just to be in a Pokemon game and do a better job.

welcome to TPCi voice acting.

It's a blessing the mon voices aren't dubbed.
 

Zomba13

Member
Oh that was just wonderful!

On another note I would have been perfectly happy if the dub voices made it in, at least with the option to turn them on or off. I don't understand how some Pokemon games have them and some don't. Whats the thought process behind it.

Pikachu saying Pikachu is ok for everyone it seems but not for Gengar saying Gengar
?

I've never understood this. Like, in the Anime everyone says their names. It's all "Pika Pi!" and "Bulbasaaaaaaaur!" but the in the games it was always just beeops and boops trying to be growls etc until they decided "nah, Pikachu speaks". I want my game Pokémon to "speak", not just Pikachu.
 

jerd

Member
Got my copy today and was able to play for about an hour but I got error code 150 (dirty/scratched disc) 5 times and gave up. Any suggestions? Brand new copy so the disc is spotless but I guess I'm gonna have to exchange it which means another 5 days or so before I really get to dig into it. Seems great from my short time though.

It will be my first fighting game though. Am I doomed to suck?
 

NEO0MJ

Member
I'm bored of using Chandelure and just spamming its charge beam to KO the CPU, as effective as it is. How much of an effect does level have on matches? I might rotate.

Also, one of my friends complained that they were running out of ideas when he saw it so I had to remind him of a certain Ball pokemon XD

Poor kid doesn't know Gengar is low tier now

He will learn eventually.
 
I wish the league champions had a bit more story integration. I rather like their designs (especially the League Master) and would have liked to see them more often.

Also, my trainer now has a cape and crown and looks like a super villain.
 

KeigoNiwa

Member
I wish the league champions had a bit more story integration. I rather like their designs (especially the League Master) and would have liked to see them more often.

Also, my trainer now has a cape and crown and looks like a super villain.
How do you get the crown, I beat all the leagues and haven't received it, is it an onlin achievement?
 

Zafir

Member
Got my copy today and was able to play for about an hour but I got error code 150 (dirty/scratched disc) 5 times and gave up. Any suggestions? Brand new copy so the disc is spotless but I guess I'm gonna have to exchange it which means another 5 days or so before I really get to dig into it. Seems great from my short time though.

It will be my first fighting game though. Am I doomed to suck?

I feel like there's a lot of people in that boat.

It's the first time I've bothered with a fighting game online, and there seems to be quite a few other people around online who are new.

As for the disk issue, it might just be faulty. I remember buying Sonic All Star Racing Transformed for the WIi U way back when, the disk was absolutely spotless, but it was just error when I tried to play it. Had to send it back.
 

Amalthea

Banned
Is Gengar really that bad? His Super does a lot of damage.
Sometimes I don't even bother with low win rate Chandelure, Lucario and simliar 'mons since they just keep spamming their attacks and I have to slowly work my way towards them since all pursuit moves risk of teleporting him right into their projectiles and his own projectile attacks largely suck IMO.
EDIT: And yeah he's slow. It doesn't help that his limbs are so ridiculously short.
 

RomanceDawn

Member
How do I charge an attack? I'm in the tutorial going through every move. Charge strong attack, charge and release X. What is it asking me to do?
 

emb

Member
Yeah, I'm going to unlock S.Mewtwo and then abandon Gengar as my main until they patch the game and rebalance the characters, that is if ever...
Gengar's not the greatest, but he doesn't really seem bad.

Even as a Gengar, I honestly hope they don't patch at all. Outside of maybe the ShadowTwo infinite.
 

emb

Member
It's number one on the Japan charts this week if I remember correctly.
Hey, it sold better than SFV, even though this game is on Wii U. So whatever that's worth.

It's first week was ~70k, so that's not really huge. Not a huge bomb so far, but I feel like this game will drop off pretty hard over time.
 
How do I charge an attack? I'm in the tutorial going through every move. Charge strong attack, charge and release X. What is it asking me to do?

Press and hold the button combination. You'll know when you've charged because the attack will automatically go off (such as the charged beam attacks) or in a few cases, there will be a subtle orange glow to your mon (like Chandelure's Minimize).
 

Zafir

Member
Hey, it sold better than SFV, even though this game is on Wii U. So whatever that's worth.

It's first week was ~70k, so that's not really huge. Not a huge bomb so far, but I feel like this game will drop off pretty hard over time.

Supply issues probably aren't going to help it, I noticed it's sold out at quite a few places in the UK.

That said, I don't think it'll drop off that hard. I feel like at the moment it's the kind of game that people may pick up after seeing it.
 
Supply issues probably aren't going to help it, I noticed it's sold out at quite a few places in the UK.

That said, I don't think it'll drop off that hard. I feel like at the moment it's the kind of game that people may pick up after seeing it.

Nintendo titles are pretty evergreen, but I also expect a bump @ Evo
 

Zafir

Member
Finally finished the Chroma League.

The final champion battle was especially funny. In memory of the youtube spamming video, I tested to see whether I could beat him using just Garchamp's B -> A projectile. Answer? Yes. It wasn't until the end of the second round he actually countered through them and got in close. xD

Fuck the Iron League though. I'm done with the grindy leagues!
 

Zafir

Member
Oh god are you serious? Please tell me you unlock everything by finishing the Chroma league.

You get Shadow Mewtwo for beating Chroma League fortunately. Also I seem to have every support slot filled.

Someone above said you get a cape and crown for beating Iron League. I dunno what else.
 
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