Aaron Strife
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I think that's illegal.
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Speaking of this, does anyone think we'll see unemployment tick down to 7.9% by the time the election happens?
It's likely, but who knows.
jamesinclair
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Why would that be the case?
If Romney was running as a businessman, shouldnt he "announce" his "board" ?
Lets not underestimate their lovely, LOVELY republican governor.
As soon as that idiot starting his parade of idiocy in 2010, I knew Ohio was dead to Romney.
What do Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida have in common?
The republicans killed their rail projects.
The electorate may forget some things, but not everything. They understand Obama was gifting them billions in Obamabux and the republicans killed it to play politics.
Also, whats the guess on what republican money? Remember the 100m promise to make Obama lose by that one billionaire? Will he double down (and spread some sweet sweet wealth redistribution) or will he realize it would be more profitable to invest in horse races?
Does this mean I can actually vote Green this year and not have to vote Obama to keep Mittens from winning Florida? I'd rather vote my conscience, but the perceived tightening of the race a month or so ago made me open up to the idea of voting Bams a second time. If the lead is substantial in Florida, I'm gonna vote Green Party. PEACE.
Wait another 12-16 years when demographics shift even more.
Yeah... that's not going to be a winning issue in Wisconsin at all. Killing that rail project was the very thing that put Walker into office in the first place. Wisconsin is retarded and saw it as waste.
Personally if I was in Florida I definitely wouldn't take that chance.
worldrunover
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For the love of fucking fuck, vote Obama.
Huh, didn't think Eric Boehlert had a potty mouth:
https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/246383148248727552
https://twitter.com/EricBoehlert/status/246383148248727552
No. Unless he has a 20 point lead, it's way too close for Florida to fuck things up.
Libya arrests 4 over deadly Benghazi attack: official
http://news.yahoo.com/libya-makes-arrests-over-deadly-benghazi-attack-official-175308342.html
This is one reason I find it doubtful that any states will actually refuse the Medicaid expansion.
edit: Oh snap. If these are really the guys, this will only get uglier for Mitt.
Also, on the topic of people covering their ass and separating from Romney:
AP said:
http://news.yahoo.com/crisis-abroad-romney-relies-select-few-225114944--election.html
but is he still?
jamesinclair
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Holy shit, this may be Romneys worst week ever.
DRUDGE SIREN
Dow Soars 200, S&P Logs Best Close Since 2007
DRUDGE SIREN
Obama's America.
DRUDGE SIREN
Dow Soars 200, S&P Logs Best Close Since 2007
DRUDGE SIREN
Obama's America.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah for real.
Dunno what his matches up with, but for me the difference between Jill Stein and Obama (according to that one survey) is 3%. That's not substantial enough to swing my vote, and I'm in a safe state (MN).
Hell, why even bother voting? Obama's got this in the bag! We can all just stay home!
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Seriously, what in God's name would be the purpose of doing such a thing?
Whaaaa???? Florida is still very close. It is heavily a swing state. This is the #1 state to not vote green in it. It is far closer than Ohio and other swing states.
He is talking about Florida. Not like California or New York. No one in their right mind would claim Florida is locked for Obama.
speculawyer
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The GOP really REALLY hates Ben right now.
I prefer the Green Party, and believe you gotta start somewhere. However, I'm really not willing to let Mittens take power, so I'll do what I gotta this election. PEACE.
Byakuya769
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Pimpwrx, if you're worried about Romney, vote Obama. If you think it's obvious Obama is going to win, vote your conscience.
This confirms the strong swing up that Gallup has seen since the conventions.
Disasterous polls for Romeny. But they're really just reflecting the uptick in the national polls, so they're not surprising. State polling lags national, so we're just now seeing how the national bounce translates at the state level.
It's going to be a slaughter in November.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Florida is the swingiest state. Arguably it's the only real swing state.
All it takes is 100,000 or so people thinking like you to swing the election to Romney. Anyone in a swing state voting green is ridiculous IMO
Polls are nice but with the rampant voter suppression by the GOP, no one should take any chances
Byakuya769
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I feel weird that my excitement is focused more on the fallout and the actual victory. Got some asshole FB friends that are going to make my decade.
That is part of my solace as well. Even if Dems do not take the House - and I'm not expecting them to - the GOP fallout from Obama's reelection will be spectacular.
I'm sure many of us in a perfect world would prefer to vote for the Green Party, but any vote NOT for Obama is a vote FOR the flat Earthers. We know what happened the last time those fucks held power, thanks in large part to Ralph Nader, so it would be nice if we don't go through that again.
That just doesn't work. If you want to see how you drag a party away from the center look at the Tea Party. You have to support candidates in the primaries at the local level.
Voting third party in the general election does nothing.
Romney continues be a dumbass
He really got some damn nerve by tying to say what appropriate and whats not.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...-first-aim-later-attack/#.UFJZwoTEZDE.twitter
He really got some damn nerve by tying to say what appropriate and whats not.
Indeed. My idiot ex-roommates are gonna be on suicide watch should that happen.
Byakuya769
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It wasn't the Press Correspondence Dinner in 08 where Obama and McCain both did comedy, was it? If not, what dinner was that? (could Romney potentially participate!?!)
The Al Smith dinner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_E._Smith_Memorial_Foundation_Dinner
It'd be....interesting to have Romney there, but I fear his campaign might be in full on vitriol mode, making it harder to do.
It is the Al Smith Dinner, and he's on the invitation as a keynote speaker.
http://www.alsmithfoundation.org/thedinner.html
NullPointer
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Yeah. Vote third party locally where it makes sense, but its best not to play games on the national stage.
jamesinclair
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At this point, all democrat money should focus on the house and senate.
White house is safer than DC going blue.
No one answered my question before. Tiny states like ND, Vermont and Wyoming have well under 1 million people each....
But 2 senate seats each.
Why isnt more money poured into these races?
The total vote in 2008 in Wyoming was 250,000.
Thats it. Thats all you need to convince.
Most mayor races cost more.
If superpacs and such are theoretically so influential, why not "buy" these senate seats by dumping $20 million into them?
White house is safer than DC going blue.
No one answered my question before. Tiny states like ND, Vermont and Wyoming have well under 1 million people each....
But 2 senate seats each.
Why isnt more money poured into these races?
The total vote in 2008 in Wyoming was 250,000.
Thats it. Thats all you need to convince.
Most mayor races cost more.
If superpacs and such are theoretically so influential, why not "buy" these senate seats by dumping $20 million into them?
"So there was this one time where Bain took over a company and we had to lay off two hundred workers..."
*starts chuckling*
"..and many of them wound up losing..."
*laughing continues to get louder*
"Excuse me. So they wound up losing their health insurance, and most wound up filing for bankrupt..."
*starts laughs uncontrollably*
Because it's possible that most voters will eventually meet the candidate, especially if the campaign tries hard enough. A commercial is never going to change someone's mind if they've met the person, especially if its a negative ad. Face to face communication is always going to be stronger, I think anyway.
This is literally the sole mission of Karl Rove's Crossroads PAC, so good eye. This is indeed a much more likely candidate for money pumping than the Presidential election, which is already full of cash.
PhoenixDark
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Brown with a 7 point lead in the Ohio senate race
eBay Huckster
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oh god don't get me optimistic about those
That's what's so great about Presidential Politics. To get 50 million + people to vote for you, you have to be in the political center. While it would be awesome to have a President that's even further to the left of Obama, I'm damn glad that can't happen because if it could, it would also mean the Todd Akin's of the world can win too.
This is also why the State's Rights Conservatives fall flat on their face in terms of pragmatism. In any given state or locality some batshit crazy guy can win an election with a few hundred thousand votes. It's important that when he/they get out of line, that the moderate administration of the White House steps in and says
"Bitch, I got 400,000 votes 2 minutes after the polls opened. Shut up and sit down and stop ruining our country"
i.e. Obama suing the state of Arizona, as well as several other super right wing local state administrations to bring things closer and closer to the center.
This is also why the State's Rights Conservatives fall flat on their face in terms of pragmatism. In any given state or locality some batshit crazy guy can win an election with a few hundred thousand votes. It's important that when he/they get out of line, that the moderate administration of the White House steps in and says
"Bitch, I got 400,000 votes 2 minutes after the polls opened. Shut up and sit down and stop ruining our country"
i.e. Obama suing the state of Arizona, as well as several other super right wing local state administrations to bring things closer and closer to the center.
This needs to be repeated in every general election.
If you want a more liberal government, vote in liberal reps and senators.
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